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Ted1066
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RE: Minors decide winner?

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OK, my findings:

In Jan 05, as France I DoW Modena, Savoy, Nassau, Munster, Bremen, move in on my land phase, besiege and win, leaving a 1 factor inf garrison.
In Jan 05, as France I DoW Berg, hamburg and Mecklenberg, move in and besiege, but fail to breach.
In a subsequent opponent land phase, the enemy garrison in Berg fails to forage and my corps is tossed into the city.

This can be seen in the attached game file, PostLCJan.zip, (post land combat January 05, with the current phase being the French 1805 Feb diplomacy phase).

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RE: Minors decide winner?

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Round 2:

In the Feb French Diplomacy phase I DoW a couple more minors around the ones I did in the Jan phase (Genoa and Romagna in Italy, Wurzburg and a couple others in the north).
In the French land phase, I move some of my corps. In particular, the corps from Savoy that successfully breached moves to Genoa to beseige there and the corps in Berg that did NOT successfully breach (but did starve the enemy garrison out) moves to Wurzburg to besiege there.

The end result is that ALL the minors I DoW'd in Jan switch to conquered, even though some of them only contain 1 factor inf garrisons in the minor's capital. This can be seen in the attached save game file, PostLCFeb.zip.

Conclusion: The current rules follow what is in the EiANW manual - "The control flags are changed only if the capital of the minor country was occupied during the previous month and the conqueror has maintained uninterrupted and unbesieged occupation for the entire current month." They do not follow the original EiA rules, though. It would seem from this test that Marshall's code is ok and behaving as per this ruleset, but, as I said, this rule is another deviation from the original EIA rules so take that as you may.

Cheers,

Ted
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RE: Minors decide winner?

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I have looked at a few lapse situations and here is the sum of what happens:
 
You must leave a corps to prevent a lapse BUT here is where it is tricky:
 
After you have unbesieged control of the minor for one month then on the next month's land phase you pull your corps out then it will NOT lapse because the conquer phase is technically before the lapse check.
 
In standard EiA, the lapse check is at the peace(Diplomacy) step whereas the conquer step is at the end of the land/landcombat phase. That is where this behavior comes in.
 
 
Does this sound right?
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RE: Minors decide winner?

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ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis

I have looked at a few lapse situations and here is the sum of what happens:

You must leave a corps to prevent a lapse BUT here is where it is tricky:

After you have unbesieged control of the minor for one month then on the next month's land phase you pull your corps out then it will NOT lapse because the conquer phase is technically before the lapse check.

In standard EiA, the lapse check is at the peace(Diplomacy) step whereas the conquer step is at the end of the land/landcombat phase. That is where this behavior comes in.


Does this sound right?

Good call, this sounds perfectly correct. Nice observation/interpretation.
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