Waiting for 3rd AE patch - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/31/43

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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 46,103

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
CL Hobart
CL Perth
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CA Canberra
CA Shropshire
BB Ramilles
BB Royal Sovereign

Japanese ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 1

another bombardment? [;)]

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Sub attack near Sasebo at 58,41

Japanese Ships
DD Chidori
DD Tomozuru
DD Hatsukari
DD Manazuru
DD Tachikaze
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 1

lol, the old story. Spotted the sub in my base yesterday, sent two 6 ship DD ASW TFs and one acts immedietely as a target. 4 torps missed and we achieve a laughable near miss... guess KXVI will move out tomorrow... easier way would just be to move in two sentais of Helens set to 2 hexes nav search 6000ft and bomb the bastard into hell but that is just too gamey...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
B5N Kate x 69
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Port hits 7
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PB2Y Coronado x 5
Boomerang II x 60
P-400 Airacobra x 71
P-39D Airacobra x 69
P-40E Warhawk x 22


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 66

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 33
Beaufighter VIF x 18
Beaufighter VIC x 9
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 42
PV-1 Ventura x 110


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet

the enemy only flew attacks against my division near Cairns...

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 29
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 16
B-25C Mitchell x 36
B-25J Mitchell x 58
B-26B Marauder x 32


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 89

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Canton Island , at 98,99


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 1
Liberator VI x 71
PV-1 Ventura x 21
PB4Y Liberator x 17


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 damaged
Liberator VI: 24 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 100

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet

back to back attack on Canton Island. Miller is definetely up to something... Those bombers were flying a max range attack two times in two days, dozens are damaged, not one is lost... [8|]

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58609 troops, 597 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1205

Defending force 17568 troops, 175 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 386



Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15863 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2317

Defending force 286253 troops, 1398 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 6651



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22683 troops, 265 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2450

Defending force 165744 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4829



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22469 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5404 troops, 23 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 79



Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7742 troops, 250 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5367

Defending force 139204 troops, 884 guns, 369 vehicles, Assault Value = 2668



Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

deliberate attack tomorrow... hopefully the forts will drop... I am really amazed by the drop of enemy av and troop strenght. This can´t be due to starvation only. I bet Miller is flying out troops but what ac does he use? None of his C-47 can reach Wyndham and I have a very, very bad feeling at the moment. I guess he uses the well known, old bug (guess Yamatohugger would call this "workaround" also) of setting transport ac to pick up unit and just click on the base. No matter that the base isn´t in range, you can still pick up the troops. [8|] Next Allied base is Alice Springs and that is 15 hexes away, if he brings in C-47 and does this "workaround" then he moves out troops even though the base is out of range of his transports...

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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15482 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4657

Defending force 68949 troops, 543 guns, 209 vehicles, Assault Value = 1116



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100387 troops, 823 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 2848

Defending force 90548 troops, 875 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1833


Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Guns lost 23

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56429 troops, 543 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1116

Defending force 241240 troops, 2527 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 4657


Japanese ground losses:
225 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

[Treznor]

Ah, this is most refreshing to see.  Good job of taking the fight to the Allies, just what I had in mind for my little war.  Nice reading, I'll keep my eyes on this one [;)]

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

deliberate attack tomorrow... hopefully the forts will drop... I am really amazed by the drop of enemy av and troop strenght. This can´t be due to starvation only. I bet Miller is flying out troops but what ac does he use? None of his C-47 can reach Wyndham and I have a very, very bad feeling at the moment. I guess he uses the well known, old bug (guess Yamatohugger would call this "workaround" also) of setting transport ac to pick up unit and just click on the base. No matter that the base isn´t in range, you can still pick up the troops. [8|] Next Allied base is Alice Springs and that is 15 hexes away, if he brings in C-47 and does this "workaround" then he moves out troops even though the base is out of range of his transports...

Sure he aint using patrol planes or heavy bombers for this?
If you are sure it is the bug being used, are you going to ask him about it?

Terje

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: castor troy

deliberate attack tomorrow... hopefully the forts will drop... I am really amazed by the drop of enemy av and troop strenght. This can´t be due to starvation only. I bet Miller is flying out troops but what ac does he use? None of his C-47 can reach Wyndham and I have a very, very bad feeling at the moment. I guess he uses the well known, old bug (guess Yamatohugger would call this "workaround" also) of setting transport ac to pick up unit and just click on the base. No matter that the base isn´t in range, you can still pick up the troops. [8|] Next Allied base is Alice Springs and that is 15 hexes away, if he brings in C-47 and does this "workaround" then he moves out troops even though the base is out of range of his transports...

Sure he aint using patrol planes or heavy bombers for this?
If you are sure it is the bug being used, are you going to ask him about it?

Terje

You can´t place patrols inland and Alice Springs is the only place in "range" of any aircraft of the Allied. And you can´t use bombers (B-24 would have the range from Alice Springs) to transport troops, you could use them for supply runs. So if they are not dying by starvation, well there´s only this "feature" I mentioned left... [8|]

I usually don´t want to ask an opponent if he´s using an exploit because if he does, he obviously thinks it would be ok. And in this case it´s just not important enough for me to start a fight. The more troops he flies out with this "feature" the sooner he will lose Wyndham. He loses Wyndham, I have 5000 av ready to move onto the next target and that´s quite a nice situation given the date of this campaign.

I´ve mentioned in an email the use of his barges that were spotted by my subs and the obviously turned back to Perth as it seems Paul has accepted my thought of it being strange to use barges for a 45 hex supply move. 10-15 hexes ok if there´s fuel at the destination but not a nearly 100 hex move to and from the destination.

[castor troy]

I couldn´t resist and have asked Miller if he also knows about the "workaround" how to pick up troops that are actually out of range of your ac and he replied that he was very disappointed that I would think that he cheats. [:(] Well, he shouldn´t be disappointed because the more troops he flies out, the better for me.

But what really surprised me is the fact that he told me that he´s using C-46 to fly out troops and they have enough range. [8|] I don´t know if he really thinks they have enough range or if he thinks I wouldn´t know their range. The C-46 has a huge cargo capacity (15.000) but not more than 9 hexes range in Nikmod. Well, Wyndham is 14 hexes away. [:D] Which makes it pretty obvious that he uses the workaraound, feature, bug, glitch or however you want to call it.

[Historiker]

Planes may land, refuel and then fly back with the troops. It doesnÄt matter in witp, whether a plane makes paradrops or can land and refuel. So if you want, it isn't bugusing or cheating - it only reflects the real possibility of refueling at an airport... [;)]

Moreover: You have fighters, why don't you simple LR-CAP the base? He'll loose a lot of planes WITH their load and your pilots get a free live training without any serious danger.
There's no easier way to create aces!

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/01/43

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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 46,103

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
CL Hobart
CL Perth
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CA Canberra
CA Shropshire
BB Ramilles
BB Royal Sovereign

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 3

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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 69,22


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 16
MiG-3 x 84
Pe-2 x 41


Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Pe-2 bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 81
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 260

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 176
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 38th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 53
B-25J Mitchell x 78
B-26B Marauder x 37


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 16 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet

even though we damage quite some bombers, nearly none are lost... more flak is hardly possible for me as there are already five AA rgts... [8|]

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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 36
PV-1 Ventura x 92


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
185 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 27
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 17
B-25C Mitchell x 31
B-25J Mitchell x 61
B-26B Marauder x 31


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 96

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 275844 troops, 3042 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 5423

Defending force 138287 troops, 877 guns, 364 vehicles, Assault Value = 2640

Japanese max assault: 5021 - adjusted assault: 1741

Allied max defense: 2520 - adjusted defense: 3535

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8) [8|]


Japanese ground losses:
8966 casualties reported
Guns lost 368
Vehicles lost 12

Allied ground losses:
2448 casualties reported
Guns lost 65
Vehicles lost 5

am I totally nuts? [8|] god damn what´s going on with this sh*tty ground combat routine. Don´t know how often I have attacked here with hundreds of combat engineers and it´s not possible to take down the forts and the super duper Allied mega engineers build up the forts from a Maginot line into a super Maginot line within two weeks... Losses stay insane, that the enemy is out of supply doesn´t matter at all it seems... The real idiocy isn´t the fact that the enemy still has a higher adjusted av than base av, the idiocy is the fact that we still get our av divided by 3 even though we meet ALL requirements. Suppyl, HQ, prep... etc. etc.

At 1/1/43 everything Allied is hardcodedly turning into super duper it seems... the way this battle has been going on for months makes you want to belive that the Nazis are still holding on Stalingrad nowadays... [8|]

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58696 troops, 600 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1209

Defending force 17594 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 384



Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

please give me Allied artillery! Japanese 150mm howitzers are shooting with hand grenades...

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15883 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2313

Defending force 293039 troops, 1466 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 6699



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22661 troops, 267 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2450

Defending force 165854 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4819



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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22449 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5410 troops, 22 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 78



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15515 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3330

Defending force 69207 troops, 546 guns, 209 vehicles, Assault Value = 1125



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

those 6 casualties probably drowned during taking a bath in the ocean, Japanese artillery can´t be the reason...

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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100377 troops, 822 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 2848

Defending force 89921 troops, 862 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1816


Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56656 troops, 546 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1124

Defending force 174880 troops, 1823 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 3330


Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

give me Allied artillery...

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Planes may land, refuel and then fly back with the troops. It doesnÄt matter in witp, whether a plane makes paradrops or can land and refuel. So if you want, it isn't bugusing or cheating - it only reflects the real possibility of refueling at an airport... [;)]

Moreover: You have fighters, why don't you simple LR-CAP the base? He'll loose a lot of planes WITH their load and your pilots get a free live training without any serious danger.
There's no easier way to create aces!

lol, why did I 100% know that exactly such a statement would come up? [;)]

so my answer... there´s a lot in WITP that is so super abstract but why shouldn´t the same thing be valid for bombers then? Or fighters? Why can´t my Kates fly a torpedo out 8 hexes and land two hexes further East at a friendly base instead of returning? Why can´t Allied 4Es fly from Iwo to Tokyo and land at Vladivostok? All possible in real life... this bug has been around forever already and it´s a non working programme, not the abstraction of real life.

But hey, why not going with the abstraction of real life. There is no supply at Wyndham and supply is abstracted for everything. Food, fuel, ammo, etc. So if the enemy is starving then there´s not enough supply to even keep his units intact. But there´s still fuel for aircraft. Very abstract, because no supply, no aircraft fuel.

LRCAP? lol! From where should I fly LRCAP? From Darwin? I don´t know how much experience you really have with flying LRCAP but it´s definetely not enough to know how much op losses I would take for no gain as we would damage a dozen transports while taking only one or two down for the loss of up to a dozen high exp Zero pilots. LRCAP 7 hexes is just a wast of your ac and pilots, it´s definetely nothing to creat aces. Perhaps that works in stock but stock... well...

As it is in this game, aircraft have a certain range, if this range is correct or not is usually a long discussion on the forum. If a base is within range than you can use your ac to attack it, fly in supply, fly in troops. If it is out of range, you can´t do that. Wyndham is 14 hexes from Alice Springs and the C-46 has a range of 9. What more can I say? No matter if we try to abstract the possibility of Aliens coming from the Venus to relieve Adolf Hitler in Berlin 45, if the game was programmed differently than it´s just not working. In this case, it´s a not working game routine (for ages already) and not the abstraction of something.

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/02/43

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TF 1045 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

49 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DMS Elliot, Shell hits 3, on fire
DMS Wasmuth, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Chandler, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage

It´s like I´ve expected, the ongoing bomber attacks on Canton Island were the preparation for an invasion. Boy, invading Canton Island? That´s one of the targets I really don´t care and I have no idea why Miller attacks Canton... two of the DMS were hit hard, they are either part of a bombardment TF or are sent in before the BBs arrive... in any case not really a good idea. Two are hit hard but none is reported sunk... [:(]

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TF 1057 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Zane
DMS Southard

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TF 1062 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Lamberton
DMS Hamilton

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Sub attack near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese Ships
DD Asagao
APD APD-37
APD APD-33
APD APD-32
APD APD-31
DD Kuretake

Allied Ships
SS KXIV, hits 4

lol, as usual... sub in port, spotted, ASW TF moves in, acts as a target...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

84 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Chicago, Shell hits 10
CA Chester
CA Northampton, Shell hits 4
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 11
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB Maryland

Japanese ground losses:
627 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Miller didn´t fly massed Kingfisher recon yesterday and this bombardment seems therefor not having a nuke effect...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
1114 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 42
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 8

considering the low number of eng units on the island this already comes pretty close to a nuke though...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria
CA New Orleans
BB California
BB Oklahoma
BB Nevada

Japanese ground losses:
886 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 40
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 6

at this point it was obvious that there won´t be any CD fire against the invasion... nothing left... the 3000 mines at the base are not effecting the bombardments at all...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
BB Tennessee
BB Pennsylvania
BB Arizona

Japanese ground losses:
942 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 29
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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TF 1028 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1028 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Kelowna
MSW Gympie
MSW Glenelg
MSW Geelong
DD Vendetta
AK Thomas Nelson, Mine hits 1, on fire
DD Vampire
DD Voyager
AK Empire Torrent, Mine hits 1
AK S. Hall Young, Mine hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1028
38 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Kelowna
CL Concord

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2657 casualties reported

the invasion goes in, the TFs are reported as huge... looks like Miller finally figuered out how to assault an atoll... as you can see, the Japanese mines have no effect on Allied ships, just like handgrenades... I can still remember losing two dozen IJN DDs near Wyndham and Derby to mines... DDs from surface combat and bombardment TFs... [:o]

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TF 1028 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1028 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Kelowna
MSW Gympie
MSW Glenelg
MSW Geelong
DD Vendetta
DD Vampire
AK Empire Bardolph, Mine hits 2, on fire
AK Empire Johnson, Mine hits 1
AK Empire Haven, Mine hits 1
DD Voyager, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1028
9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

not even two mine hits are dangerous for an Allied AK... counterfire from a dedicated CD unit with five dozen CD guns and a big base force is non existing... the BBs whiped out everything...

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TF 1041 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1041 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Junee
MSW Ipswitch
MSW Horsham
MSW Freemantle
APD Manley
AK Tantalus, Mine hits 1
APD Ward
APD Schley
AK Empire Driver, Mine hits 1
DD John D. Edwards
DD Edsall
DD Barker


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1041
37 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
3403 casualties reported

laying Japanese mines is obviously a waste of fuel and supplies... while Japanes mines surely weren´t comparable to Allied mines, I wonder if it´s correct that they only have 10-20% of the effect...

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TF 1054 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1054 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Bittern
MSW Champion
MSW Oracle
MSW Herald
APD Dickerson
AK Corrales, Mine hits 1
DD Piet Hein
DD Evertsen
DD Banckert
AK Santa Teresa, Mine hits 1, on fire
AK Mormacland, Mine hits 1, on fire
APD Brooks
AK Ernest Meyer, Mine hits 1


Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1054
77 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Van Ghent
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 1
APD Gilmer
AK Tuscaloosa City, Shell hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
3826 casualties reported

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TF 1060 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1060 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Agra
MSW Swallow
MSW Starling
MSW Launceton
MSW Latrobe
APD Dent
LST LST-32, Mine hits 1
APD McKean
LST LST-343, Mine hits 1


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1060
53 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Agra


Allied ground losses:
3483 casualties reported

at least an LST should be in trouble after hitting a mine? No? [8|]
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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 69,22


Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 4
B-25J Mitchell x 9
MiG-3 x 51
Pe-2 x 28


Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Pe-2 bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 81
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 27
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 314

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 228
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PB2Y Coronado x 4
Boomerang II x 51
P-400 Airacobra x 71
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 24


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 33
Beaufighter VIF x 19
Beaufighter VIC x 11
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 10


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Wallis Island , at 93,107


Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 122


Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
45 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Khomsomalsk , at 71,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 36

No Japanese losses

morning sweep against no Cap over Khomsomalsk anymore... bombers are set to go in in the afternoon...

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Day Air attack on 6th Base Force, at 98,99


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 18
Avenger I x 23


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 4 damaged
Avenger I: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x TBF Avenger bombing at 15000 feet

it looks like a small Allied carrier TF is lurking around South of Canton but I haven´t spotted any CVs at Canton or near it... well, my bombers from Baker Island did NOT attack today... weather was fine the whole day... thank you

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Day Air attack on 46th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 50
IL-4c x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 26 damaged
IL-4c: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on 46th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 27
B-25J Mitchell x 60
B-26B Marauder x 22


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 7 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
211 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet

I´m thinking about moving in another DOZEN AA rgts... perhaps stripping Japan completely... use all AA guns from the home islands in one place and I guess you could achieve the same effect as two Allied base forces...

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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 12
Beaufort I x 46
PV-1 Ventura x 113


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on 65th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
IL-4c x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 12 damaged
IL-4c: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on Gasmata , at 59,90


Allied aircraft
Barracuda x 23
P-47C Thunderbolt x 15


Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Barracuda bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 28
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 33
B-25J Mitchell x 58
B-26B Marauder x 28


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 102

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Khomsomalsk , at 71,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 51
Ki-49 Helen x 143

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 4 destroyed, 29 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
MiG-3: 20 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell: 3 destroyed
Pe-2: 6 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 105

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

if the Allied keep flying attacks with the Russian airforce, I will keep flying attacks to destroy it... We lose 5 Helens today against a meager flak defense... with so many bombers at the base I´m not that happy about the number of enemy bombers destroyed on the ground...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 59,90


Allied aircraft
Barracuda x 17
P-47C Thunderbolt x 50


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yuki Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Barracuda bombing at 10000 feet

Looks like Miller has set his Barracudas at PM to nav/airfield attack 6 hexes (max range) now. Means the ships going to Gasmata are now in real danger... the small AK is of course sunk after taking 2500 lb of bombs...



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Ground combat at Canton Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12893 troops, 94 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 448

Defending force 79760 troops, 674 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 1969 [X(]



Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

lol, there are 150.000 Allied troops trapped at Wyndham and another 70.000 are struggling to hold the area around Townsville and Cairns and Miller goes in to attack a uselss atoll far off from important areas with nearly 80.000 combat troops? That´s fine with me! I would use those 2000 assault points somewhere else though as Canton is surely nowhere as important as trying to save the troops at Wyndham...

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58838 troops, 605 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1217

Defending force 17648 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 387



Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15883 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2314

Defending force 294548 troops, 1478 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 6724



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22686 troops, 267 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2449

Defending force 165675 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4810



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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22427 troops, 255 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 5402 troops, 23 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 77



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7437 troops, 231 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4576

Defending force 133503 troops, 779 guns, 354 vehicles, Assault Value = 2489



Allied ground losses:
379 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15557 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1998

Defending force 69435 troops, 552 guns, 211 vehicles, Assault Value = 1132



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100276 troops, 821 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 2847

Defending force 89699 troops, 856 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1813


Japanese ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56855 troops, 552 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1132

Defending force 108931 troops, 1156 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1998


Japanese ground losses:
802 casualties reported [8|]
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied artillery... a deliberate attack of 250.000 fully supplied, fully prepped and 96-99 exp Japanese troops usually results in something like 2500 Allied casualties... an Allied bombardment of 552 guns ends with something like 500-900 Japanese casualties... nice ratio...

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Ground combat at Canton Island

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 77595 troops, 673 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 1964

Defending force 22048 troops, 114 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 448

Allied max assault: 3004 - adjusted assault: 940

Japanese max defense: 373 - adjusted defense: 400

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 7 [8|]


Japanese ground losses:
4096 casualties reported
Guns lost 51

Allied ground losses:
3157 casualties reported
Guns lost 173
Vehicles lost 7


looks like I really can´t do anything to defend my bases anymore. People consider putting 25.000 troops on an atoll total overkill in the game but when I look at my ajdusted av (and compare it with the adjusted av of out of supply troops at Wyndham) then I´m more than shocked. Been a long time since I´ve seen an atoll fall as easy as Canton will fall... the attack on the first day already makes sure that the atoll will fall either on day two or three. We lose more troops than the attack and we are sitting behind level 9 forts, fully prepped, fully supplied and the inf untis were 0 disrupted (bombardments don´t touch inf units at all)... boy, damn die rolls...

[castor troy]

Here´s what Miller has landed on Canton. I have to say I was surprised to see four US divisions. I knew there are lots of RCTs around but seeing four 100% combat ready US divs was a surprise. But as mentioned above, I really am amazed and wonder why Miller took Canton as a target... what does he gain other than wearing down his troops, even though if he will take the atoll easily? It would have taken him only something like two weeks more and he could have moved those troops into the Townsville area. In fact, they could have been there for a long time already I guess. I have to ask the same question as I´ve asked during his attack on PM, why is he trying to do an offensive if he has 150.000 troops trapped at Wyndham? Shouldn´t it be his number one priority to relieve those troops at Wyndham? This especially if he has to notice that his troops there really seem to be super tough and hold out amazingly long, even though while being out of supply. No, first he attacks PM with US divs that were down to 60% strenght and without any carrier support, resulting in his troops being even more worn down and the loss of a couple of light cruisers and 5 dozen APs! And now he attacks Canton Island! Why? And also in this attack, it seems there is no carrier support around. The small TBF attack on Canton seems to have come from CVEs or CVLs. But my bombers didn´t attack today, so not having carriers wasn´t that severe it seems.

Still, I really don´t understand my opponent´s strategic decisions at all. Not that it wouldn´t be good for me, but honestly am I totally wrong in saying that this doesn´t make sense? Perhaps I am and it´s a perfect strategy, I just don´t get it to attck exactly that base that is the furthest away from any important area.

[bigbaba]

any chance, that the mighty KB sails to canton and doing what japanese mines can not do? sinking allied shipping.

you have already sunk a good part of the allied transport fleet. with so many troops at canton, miller must have a huge part of his remaining transport capacity there. any chance that the KB can reach the area before the allied troops take canton? with so many allied Cv sunk or damaged, i dont think that your carriers would face any serious resistance and sinking another 40-50 allied Ak/AP would buy you even more time, "chris san".

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/03/43

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TF 1028 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1028 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Kelowna
MSW Gympie
MSW Glenelg
MSW Geelong
DD Vendetta
DD Vampire
AK Empire Pibroch, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Edward Livingston, Mine hits 1, on fire

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1028

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

The Allied again didn´t manage it to completely unload in one turn but this doesn´t matter anymore. With the CD units and most of my inf units being knocked out due to the attack yesterday there isn´t anything left to harm the invasion... Well, 1200 mines are left but hey...

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TF 1041 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

TF 1041 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Junee
MSW Ipswitch, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Horsham, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Freemantle
DD Edsall
AK Empire Ballad, Mine hits 1
AK Dashing Wave, Mine hits 1
APD Ward
DD Barker
AK Kota Radja, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
APD Schley


Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1041
46 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Empire Nile, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Barker


Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

looks like the defenders discovered a still operational CD gun and put some shells into two MSWs...

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TF 1054 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1054 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Bittern
MSW Champion
MSW Oracle
MSW Herald
APD Dickerson
DD Evertsen
AK Manulani, Mine hits 1
DD Van Ghent

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1054
29 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Hamakua, Shell hits 2
DD Van Ghent
AK Chatanooga City
AK Santa Rita
AK Santa Elisa
DD Evertsen


Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported

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TF 1060 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1060 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Agra
MSW Swallow
MSW Starling
MSW Launceton
MSW Latrobe
AK Needwood, Mine hits 1

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1060
66 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK West Isleta
APD Crosby
CL Raleigh
AK Iowan, Shell hits 2
AK Coloradan, Shell hits 1
APD McKean, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Agra, Shell hits 1
LST LST-354, Shell hits 2, on fire
LST LST-343


Allied ground losses:
590 casualties reported

if I look on the landings yesterday then in total the Allied units suffered quite some disablements and due to the fact that they didn´t unload in one turn we would have had a nice chance to inflict some more casualties if our adjusted av wouldn´t have been that bad and if the Allied attack wouldn´t have been that devastating to our troops sitting behind forts like this on an atoll... I know, level 9 forts are total phantasy but it´s the same as having 110.000 troops in total from both sides on this small spot... a 0:1 yesterday and another shock attack today would have made my day...



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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Chester
CA Chicago
CA San Francisco
CA Quincy
CA Vincennes

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported

Runway hits 13
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Houston
CA Wichita
CA New Orleans
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis

Japanese ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 17
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 2

looks like most of the Allied BBs and CAs are around the invasion area...

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Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1041
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TF 1041 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1041 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99



Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported

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TF 1054 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1054 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Bittern
MSW Champion
MSW Oracle
MSW Herald
APD Dickerson
AK Ernest Meyer, Mine hits 1, on fire

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1054

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1060
TF 1060 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 81
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 26
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 315

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 168
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 34
Beaufighter VIF x 19
Beaufighter VIC x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13
IL-4c x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged
IL-4c: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 14
B-25J Mitchell x 20
B-26B Marauder x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 5 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th Base Force, at 98,99


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 80
PV-1 Ventura x 16
PB4Y Liberator x 18


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on 42nd Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24
B-24D Liberator x 6
IL-4c x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged
IL-4c: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on 42nd Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-25J Mitchell x 62
B-26B Marauder x 27


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 9
Beaufort I x 41
PV-1 Ventura x 92


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
205 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 66
G4M1 Betty x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Dashing Wave, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Banner, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Charles P. Steinmetz, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Empire Glade, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Summer, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Wallingford, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Nile, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Homer
AK Vincent, Torpedo hits 1
AK Empire Hazlitt, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

today my bombers from Baker island decided to attack the invasion TFs and as mentiond yesterday, it seems there´s no carrier support around... [X(] This is our main strike of the day and we achieve some easy kills for nearly no loss... another Omaha class CL is heavily hit today, three torps could be enough to sink the light cruiser...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Java
AK Corrales

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on Gasmata , at 59,90


Allied aircraft
Barracuda x 39
P-47C Thunderbolt x 22


Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Barracuda bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 29
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 25
B-25J Mitchell x 35
B-26B Marauder x 20


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 50
G4M1 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 11 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Vampire
AK Empire Eagle, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Concord

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

this is in the afternoon already, we launch several dispersed strikes and achieve nearl nothing...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Modjekerto

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
G4M1 Betty x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
AK West Camargo
AK Onomea

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 98,99

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
APD McKean, on fire
LST LST-343, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

and that´s it for today... if you don´t have carriers around that launch massive strikes then hurting an invasion with land based bombers only is near impossible if there isn´t one fat target like a couple of CVs or BBs that get attacked by massive strikes.

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 59008 troops, 607 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1225

Defending force 17704 troops, 188 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 391



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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15866 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2316

Defending force 295770 troops, 1499 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 6742



Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22689 troops, 268 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2447

Defending force 165608 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4813



Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22410 troops, 254 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 5430 troops, 23 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 79



Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7622 troops, 236 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4434

Defending force 132325 troops, 768 guns, 352 vehicles, Assault Value = 2444



Allied ground losses:
340 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

over 1000 troops are flown out daily now, av went down by 45 points in one day... and we will attack soon again...

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Ground combat at Canton Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8164 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 253

Defending force 80276 troops, 726 guns, 131 vehicles, Assault Value = 1585



Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

the enemy´s av has gone down by 400 points from yesterday´s attack but how should we hold...

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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100381 troops, 820 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 2849

Defending force 89702 troops, 856 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1816


Japanese ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 57053 troops, 565 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 1137

Defending force 100935 troops, 1187 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1994


Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Canton Island

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 78216 troops, 726 guns, 131 vehicles, Assault Value = 1582

Defending force 17304 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 253

Allied max assault: 1714 - adjusted assault: 1418

Japanese max defense: 184 - adjusted defense: 76

Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 7) [8|][8|]

Allied forces CAPTURE Canton Island base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
2872 casualties reported
Guns lost 24

Allied ground losses:
1492 casualties reported
Guns lost 75
Vehicles lost 9


what can I say... if you think about the fact that I had nearly 500 av behind level 9 forts, massive supply and probably 7 or 8 dozen CD guns than it was just like a cakewalk for the Allied... I have seen 500 av beating up bigger invasions than this one before so the die rolls must have been pretty much one sided. Everything was done after the first shock attack... we lose an unimportant atoll 5000 miles away from the real important areas... I´m not happy with the damage we´ve inflicted though...

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

any chance, that the mighty KB sails to canton and doing what japanese mines can not do? sinking allied shipping.

you have already sunk a good part of the allied transport fleet. with so many troops at canton, miller must have a huge part of his remaining transport capacity there. any chance that the KB can reach the area before the allied troops take canton? with so many allied Cv sunk or damaged, i dont think that your carriers would face any serious resistance and sinking another 40-50 allied Ak/AP would buy you even more time, "chris san".

KB was/is in the area around Truk as this is an area of more importance. Bringing it down to Canton would have taken too long, even if I would have decided to send it out three or four days ago. And as you know, fuel is in very short supply so a full speed run could mean I would use up more fuel than I can store in a month.

Canton was lost on the first day of the Allied attack as it was devastating. All the CD guns, forts, preparation and supply helped just nothing. When looking at what we´ve spotted in the combat report and the replay, then I guess there is not much in terms of APs around Canton, guess the PM invasion really took a toll on the Allied APs. From what it looks like, in the Canton Island invasion, there were mostly AKs, backed up with LSTs. And AKs should still be hundreds around, while APs are only some 5 or 6 dozens left. Rough guess, could be more, doubt it could be fewer.

[bigbaba]

thats something i find very stuppid in this game..this allied invasion fleets with "warp engine". now, the japanese have the best long range recon planes of the war but most of the time, they spot a allied landing fleet when its just 1-2 hexes away from the destination. the same happend to me in my game vs. garry...his invasion forces popped up right 1 hex away from baker island although nearly 40 emilys were flying naval search in the area.

you have little to no time to react as the japanese player.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

thats something i find very stuppid in this game..this allied invasion fleets with "warp engine". now, the japanese have the best long range recon planes of the war but most of the time, they spot a allied landing fleet when its just 1-2 hexes away from the destination. the same happend to me in my game vs. garry...his invasion forces popped up right 1 hex away from baker island although nearly 40 emilys were flying naval search in the area.

you have little to no time to react as the japanese player.

that´s how it is, but IMO it´s one of the things that isn´t reall off. I even think we spot more than in real life. I had 4 chutais (36 ac) of Emilies on Baker Island set to 18 hexes nav search. Well, if you think about the area they have to cover when a hex is 60 miles big and you sent them out in a circle with 360° then that´s quite a lot of ocean... I have spotted the enemy one day before the invasion has gone in, but not the whole fleet. That´s the only thing that seems a bit strange to me. We spotted two TFs of a couple of ships each, while there were probably a dozen with big surface combat TFs and amphibious TFs of probably 100 ships each.

I had no Alfs or Jakes on Canton as they would have just been bombed by the Allied 4Es. If you have a daitai of Alfs or Jakes on an island you usually sight such big armadas coming in as soon as they are in range, means at 6 or 7 hexes.

And there´s no difference between Allied or Japanese nav search. At least none I have experienced or heard of.

[bigbaba]

from what i heard about AE, you can define the sector of naval search operation. it means, you dont need to do a 360 degree search from lets say tawara. you can concentrate all search planes into E-NE-SE. maybe that increases the chances to spot enemy TFs earlier.

[castor troy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/04/43

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ASW attack at 34,62

Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Shonan Maru #7
PC Shonan Maru #6
PC Shonan Maru #1
PC Kyo Maru #12
PC Fumi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS KXIV, hits 2

we tried to hunt down the British sub but again only achieved 2 near misses... not acting as a target seems to be a success already...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 81
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 25
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 326

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 237
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PB2Y Coronado x 5
Boomerang II x 60
P-400 Airacobra x 70
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 24


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 77

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 31
Beaufighter VIF x 19
Beaufighter VIC x 11
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 11


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 6th Base Force, at 98,99


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 80
PV-1 Ventura x 23
PB4Y Liberator x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet

10 hex ground attack... doesn´t matter at all, guess Miller forgot about them to stand them down...


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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 45,101


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 12
Beaufort I x 32
PV-1 Ventura x 101


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 51,95

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 27
G4M1 Betty x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Requisite, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Strive, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Token, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Pursuit, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

the six MSW and the bigger TF that was going to PM have been sighted yesterday heading back to Aussie land again, so I´ve moved in 54 torp bombers to Gili Gili, hoping to get a shot at the bigger TF with AKs in (hopefully uncapped). Well, we didn´t attack the bigger TF and launched one strike on the MSW, killing four of them... the bombers were sent back out of range of the 4Es at Cooktown...

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Day Air attack on Gasmata , at 59,90

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 110

Allied aircraft
Barracuda x 39
P-47C Thunderbolt x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61 Ic: 22 destroyed, 42 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda: 20 destroyed
P-47C Thunderbolt: 64 destroyed

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Barracuda bombing at 10000 feet

wow... [X(] after seeing the Barracudas from PM being set on nav/airfield attack daily, coming in with a more or less "weak" (in numbers) Thunderbolt escort I decided that it is time to intervene.

This had two reasons:

a) I wanted to know if the Tony really performs better than the Tojo, so I´ve thought setting 250 Tonies from Rabaul to LRCAP Gasmata would be a good idea to test them against an escort of 25 or so Thunderbolts. Well, needless to say that I was shocked to see an escort of 94!!! Thunderbolts. One of the idiotic "features" of the game. No matter how many fighters you set on escort, if there is no Cap at the target, the game decides how many really fly and that can be FAR less. As soon as there is Cap over the target, usuall ALL fighters set to escort actually fly. So this meant in this case that (probably) 4 squadrons of Thunderbolts were set to escort and 94 actually flew (out of 96). We were coming in at 20.000ft, the enemy fighters at 13.000ft. Do you think we would have bounced them? No... We only engaged them but in no time the Tony really proved to be a far better dogfighter than the totally obsolete Tojo (in Nikmod). One Thunderbolt after another was shot down in no time, the better maneuver rating of the Tony (compared to the Tojo) enabled us to fire from behind at the Thuds and with the higher gun value of 10, many of the bursts actually resulted in kills. If the game wouldn´t have gone crazy at some point, ignoring physics completely, then we would have achieved an insane kill rate I guess. BUT, at some point we just got into 7 or 8 phases when the enemy fighters were bouncing us. How that is possible when my fighters come in 7.000 ft higher than the enemy escorts is beyond me but that´s how the game works. 20 or so of the kills were achieved during the Allied bounce phases.

b) if my new fighters prove to be competitive then this will keep the enemy honest as he then can´t just attack everything he wants. I won´t end up in 5 hexes range of enemy bases with my airforce as this would just draw me into an attrition war against Corsairs, Spits, Warhawks, etc. but everything that is 6 or more hexes away from an Allied base can be defended if we wish to as we surely can go into an attrition war against the Thunderbolt and the Lightning as long as the enemy only gets 30 or 35 of each every month. This could change when the enemy will get 75 P38-J each month.

The Tonies even managed to fight their way through to the bombers and took 20 of them down. I guess this also hurts because those higher exp British pilots will be replaced by "green" pilots in the mid 50s. At least I guess they had quite a nice exp due to their excellent performanc when they attacked my shipping. One of our Tony sentais was hit hard, losing 8 high exp pilots and will be flown out for training, the sentai can immedietely be replaced with a new one that has finished training. In total we´ve lost 13 pilots which means that really a lot survived today, either going down over Gasmata or crashing back at Rabaul. This attack really is a morale boost for me as it shows me that if we continue to try to hurt the enemy, with max efforts we can still do that. Setting 7 high exp Tony sentais (some 250 fighters) on LRCAP is definetely a max effort. The enemy nearly lost a two month replacement rate of Thunderbolts and that´s surely not nice, also in this case, the pilots will probably replaced with new ones that are less experienced. Really a nice engagment, I don´t want to think about how it could have looked like if the enemy wouldn´t have got the bounce (over our base, 360 miles away from friendly territory and when flying 7.000ft below us), or if we would have won the jackpot of bouncing the enemy. All in all, an absolutely succesful day. [:D]



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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 28
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 34
B-25J Mitchell x 53
B-26B Marauder x 25


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 59120 troops, 610 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1232

Defending force 17765 troops, 192 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 392



Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Irkutsk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 230490 troops, 2580 guns, 1327 vehicles, Assault Value = 7107

Defending force 138789 troops, 1643 guns, 204 vehicles, Assault Value = 2651



Allied ground losses:
240 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

will order the first deliberate attack soon and I guess I will be shocked about the losses we will take. With 2600+ av behind surely level 9 forts and with unlimited supply I´m not sure that we will ever be able to take the base as our losses will be over 10.000 every time we attack and if (BIG IF) we are able to take down a fort, then the super duper Allied we build forts in no time engineers will bring it back to level 9 before we can take it down to level 7. Our only plus here are our tanks, I hope they can hurt the enemy.

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15838 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2317

Defending force 297022 troops, 1512 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 6769



Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22602 troops, 268 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 2448

Defending force 165316 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4801



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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22424 troops, 255 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 481

Defending force 5460 troops, 22 guns, 104 vehicles, Assault Value = 82



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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7696 troops, 237 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4520

Defending force 131350 troops, 762 guns, 348 vehicles, Assault Value = 2410



Allied ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

you can imagine how hard Irkutsk will be when you think about how long we are trying to fight down the Western Allied at Wyndham...

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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100409 troops, 822 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 2852

Defending force 89745 troops, 854 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1813


Japanese ground losses:
464 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 10


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 57297 troops, 574 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1143

Defending force 101035 troops, 1187 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1999


Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Allied ground losses:
1 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Canton Island

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 78222 troops, 628 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 1391

Defending force 13359 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 101

Allied max assault: 773 - adjusted assault: 867

Japanese max defense: 60 - adjusted defense: 16

Allied assault odds: 54 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
2129 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 1

more than half of our remaining units were wiped out... this is the third day of the invasion. We not just lost the base, we are wiped out within one week at max. And now the idiotic thing of the day: we moved out fragments of all units, ALL of them either vanished or turned into ghosts... AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:@][:@][:@][:@] I have the strange feeling that as soon as you have your first ghost unit somewhere it is not possible for you to rebuild ANY of your fragments anymore. And this just sucks. Why? Because when I look at the Russian divisions that had fragments flown out from Borzya, at least 5 of them are rebuilding at Irkutsk now. And their av is going up, as I can see during the replay of my bombardments... thanks a lot... [:@][:@][:@] So I can´t rebuild my units... what does that mean? This means that I will run out of base forces as soon as the enemy arrives in the area Saipan or further into the SRA. In this case I have not just lost a big base force, but also two smaller ones and a full CD unit. Well done... Running out of base forces means running out of bases where I can park aircraft. I get something like three dozen small base forces from now on until the end of the war, means something like 1000 air support, enough to stack 250 ac into four bases. That´s great. None of the base forces I will get will be one of the bigger ones with lots of AA and CD guns and 140 air support.

Sorry, but this game is so borked it just sucks. At the moment I have surely something like two dozen ghost units on the map. Just a prove of very poor data base programming... once again...[>:]

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52nd Naval Guard Unit Wiped Out at Canton Island by attrition!!!

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6th Base Force Wiped Out at Canton Island by attrition!!!

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6th Coastal Gun Regiment Wiped Out at Canton Island by attrition!!!

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Kure 5th SNLF Wiped Out at Canton Island by attrition!!!

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Yokosuka 7th SNLF Wiped Out at Canton Island by attrition!!!

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Sasebo 7th SNLF Wiped Out at Canton Island by attrition!!!



all vanished or turned into ghosts on Kwajalein!!!!!!!!! STUPID data base programming...

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

from what i heard about AE, you can define the sector of naval search operation. it means, you dont need to do a 360 degree search from lets say tawara. you can concentrate all search planes into E-NE-SE. maybe that increases the chances to spot enemy TFs earlier.

it surely will be an improvement...

[terje439]

How many Tony's do you produce per month?

Terje

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: terje439

How many Tony's do you produce per month?

Terje

ramped up the production to something like 630. I´m producing something like 1000 fighters of three different types at the moment. Tony, A6M3a and OscarII.