War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Manual Preview

[Japan]

I think the Manual was very good, but that last  Comment on  page 322 I think was totally unprofessional by a Game Developer.

Religion has nothing to do in a Game Manual! (Nor on the Forum's, so I understand it should not be talked about, However Please Observe
that I'm not discussing Religion, I'm only saying that it should NOT have been included in the Official Game Manual!
With other words, I'm talking about the Contant of the Manual

Now that said,    You Did do a VERY Good Job on the Manual and I am looking forward to the Actual Product. 




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[Erik Rutins]

Japan,

This is exactly why we have a prohibition on discussions of religion (and politics) on our forum. It's something too many people feel passionately about, one way or another. I'm surprised that you can't understand that it's our business if we want to add a note like that to our credits in our manual. That note has been in all our credits (the Matrix Games side) since we founded this company, since some of the founders have strong faith in God and those that don't still respect their beliefs. The credits section is specifically where personal notes like this should go and has nothing to do with the rest of the manual, which is about the game.

Having mention of religion in our credits does not mean that it's ok to discuss it here. The manual itself was also not posted in the forum, only a link to an article that had a link to download it for offline reading.

We respect the beliefs and opinions of our customers and we hope that you would also respect ours as well as our forum rules. You are, in fact, discussing religion again, after you were just warned not to do so on this forum. While I have nothing against you expressing your opinions via e-mail, posting about on this on the forum is against the rules. As a result, you are once again banned for two weeks.

Regards,

- Erik

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

One more thing, when AE is very close to release (i.e. within a week) we will make the full AE PDF manual available to registered owners of War in the Pacific so that you'll be as ready as you can be to jump in once you receive your copy by download or mail. So if you haven't already registered in our Members Club, you may wish to do so now.

Thanks Erik! [:)]

The laser color printer at work will again be put to good use... [;)]


Leo "Apollo11"

[Anthropoid]

[:D] Great to see! *Applauds*
 
That manual in the webcam pic looks similar to the one included in the box set for Forge of Freedom, and I can say that that was a quite sturdy book. My FoF manual did _eventually have a couple of the pages come loose in the center of the book, but then I am pretty aggressive with bending back the pages on books. Just took a piece of clear tape and reaffixed it and it was fine. I think with that design if you are a little bit careful it could last for years without suffering an real wear and tear.
 
Erik, I'm guessing you'd rather get corrections here in this thread than by email eh?

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Pasternakski, if you're volunteering to help us out with manual editing in the future, be careful what you wish for! [;)] Regards,

- Erik

All you had to do was ask. PM me and we can get any further discussion off the open forums. All I can tell you is that I am a retired old codger now, and I would like nothing better (other than a sweet sweet thang with Serena Williams) than to help improve Matrix manuals - editing is what I have done for, oh, about 35 years now. I'll send you a brief vita by PM if you decide to pursue such an eventuality - and if you have Serena's number, that would be appreciated, too.

[ny59giants]

The laser color printer at work will again be put to good use... [;)]

Quickly followed by a brief visit to Wal-Mart to pick up a binder, two new yellow hi-lighters, and caffiene. [:D]

[Erik Rutins]

ORIGINAL: pasternakski
All you had to do was ask. PM me and we can get any further discussion off the open forums. All I can tell you is that I am a retired old codger now, and I would like nothing better (other than a sweet sweet thang with Serena Williams) than to help improve Matrix manuals - editing is what I have done for, oh, about 35 years now. I'll send you a brief vita by PM if you decide to pursue such an eventuality - and if you have Serena's number, that would be appreciated, too

Well, that sounds promising. I'm inundated with PMs, so please e-mail me directly at erikr@matrixgames.com and we can have a serious discussion on this. Unfortunately though, I don't know Serena.

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Unfortunately though, I don't know Serena.

Erik, you're a great disappointment to me in my old age. I will be in touch shortly.

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
I think you will find with use that even an old set of eyes become adept at reccognizing and differentiating the important ones. I've had two cataract surgeries in the last 18 months, but I can still do it with the ones I am interested in keeping track of.

Well, Mike, you know me, always looking for functionality. And there are so many, and so many that look almost identical... and there will be so many on the map...

[fabertong]

ORIGINAL: Japan

I think the Manual was very good, but that last  Comment on  page 322 I think was totally unprofessional by a Game Developer.

Religion has nothing to do in a Game Manual! (Nor on the Forum's, so I understand it should not be talked about, However Please Observe
that I'm not discussing Religion, I'm only saying that it should NOT have been included in the Official Game Manual!
With other words, I'm talking about the Contant of the Manual

Now that said,    You Did do a VERY Good Job on the Manual and I am looking forward to the Actual Product. 




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Hi Japan.................I'm not sure what your motives here are........the comment you refer to is a sincere expression by the developers.......and should be respected as such......what-ever your personal feelings are.........

[fabertong]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Japan,

This is exactly why we have a prohibition on discussions of religion (and politics) on our forum. It's something too many people feel passionately about, one way or another. I'm surprised that you can't understand that it's our business if we want to add a note like that to our credits in our manual. That note has been in all our credits (the Matrix Games side) since we founded this company, since some of the founders have strong faith in God and those that don't still respect their beliefs. The credits section is specifically where personal notes like this should go and has nothing to do with the rest of the manual, which is about the game.

Having mention of religion in our credits does not mean that it's ok to discuss it here. The manual itself was also not posted in the forum, only a link to an article that had a link to download it for offline reading.

We respect the beliefs and opinions of our customers and we hope that you would also respect ours as well as our forum rules. You are, in fact, discussing religion again, after you were just warned not to do so on this forum. While I have nothing against you expressing your opinions via e-mail, posting about on this on the forum is against the rules. As a result, you are once again banned for two weeks.

Regards,

- Erik

OOOppppsss......sorry for my last post....didn't see this before posting...........must scroll down....before using flippers.......

[Cerix]

japan was talking about the manual, he was not talking about religion

[Canoerebel]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The laser color printer at work will again be put to good use... [;)]

Quickly followed by a brief visit to Wal-Mart to pick up a binder, two new yellow hi-lighters, and caffiene. [:D]

Wimp!

[jjax]

ORIGINAL: Cerix

japan was talking about the manual, he was not talking about religion

What is your point?

Japan was attempting to engage in a "if i can't do this, then why can you do that" argument with the staff at Matrix games. Obviously, the staff saw through it.

[Cerix]

ORIGINAL: jjax

ORIGINAL: Cerix

japan was talking about the manual, he was not talking about religion

What is your point?

Japan was attempting to engage in a "if i can't do this, then why can you do that" argument with the staff at Matrix games. Obviously, the staff saw through it.

no, he said that the manual was good but should not talk about religion, and frankly I agree.
it is not the same as discussing religion, he talked about the manual.

[DuckofTindalos]

You're not fooling anyone, Japan...

[Nomad]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The laser color printer at work will again be put to good use... [;)]

Quickly followed by a brief visit to Wal-Mart to pick up a binder, two new yellow hi-lighters, and caffiene. [:D]

Why go to Wal-Mart? While the color laser is working printing - two sided, I can just go to the suply closet and get a binder and hi-lighters from there. [:D]

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

You're not fooling anyone, Japan...

can we ban japan permenantly PLEASE!!!

[Mobeer]

Is this the same manual that will come with the game? The web site promises "Printed 196 page COLOR manual (boxed copy only)" but the PDF has many more pages?

[Nomad]

ORIGINAL: Mobeer

Is this the same manual that will come with the game? The web site promises "Printed 196 page COLOR manual (boxed copy only)" but the PDF has many more pages?

I think the manual had a small bloat problem. [:D]