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The Seven Years’ War was fought across the globe and called by some the first “World War” as virtually every major power participated. In the center of events was Prussia, almost constantly at war and lead by the now legendary Frederick the Great.

Relive the exciting and trying days of Frederick the Great in Horse and Musket: Volume I, the improved and expanded combination of the previous Prussian War Machine and Prussia’s Glory titles. Horse and Musket: Volume I is a reboot of the successful Horse and Musket series, including not only two solid historical titles in one package, but also many new game features, a powerful new editor, and a complete graphics overhaul to an already acclaimed gaming system.

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The game automatically recognized my 1920x1200 screen resolution.

Hey benpark, perhaps you have your video card driver utility set to upscale any game not at the native resolution? Or are you saying that the game is really in 1920x1200 resolution.

If the game is truly locked at 1024x768 res, it should look awful(well, maybe not awful, but fuzzy at least) on your monitor, unless you used the utility to adjust the scaling.

Yes, it's upscaling and not in a window. I have all other ATI Catalyst settings at "default". At this setting, the standard zoom looks pretty decent, and the zoomed out and in graphics are pretty pixelated. It's certainly playable only at the default zoom.
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Yeah I don't understand why someone would pass on a game simply because of the minimal time required to get it to look good. I remember back in the DOS days having to tweak and sweat to squeeze out a few more bits of memory to get some games to run at all. People don't realize how much easier things are now but how for the most part game quality has declined in many respects.
I'm with you there Arinvald!!! I had different boot disks set up for different games. I spent dozens of hours messing with autoexec.bat and config.sys to get that last stubborn 1k (yes, for those who haven't a clue, that's 1 Kilobyte! [:D]) of memory freed up so a game would run.

Then, what about the days of the wonderful Spectrum 48k? My first computer. Six minutes to boot Flight Simulator from tape and the anticipation was brilliant. It was actually exciting to wait for that title screen to pop up. Such good memories hehe. These kids of today have been spoiled rotten. The games just work most of the time. If they want to play an old one, simple. Get DOSBox, VMWare or an emulator. Way too easy! [:'(]

I am sooooo old lol! [8|]
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I don't have a widescreen.  Just a regular 19" lcd monitor with a native of 1280x1024.  Anything else looks like crap EVEN if I change the desktop res (which I did for PureSim).  Doesn't matter.  I understand the time involved and not buying/playing these games is a personal decision and not one to be attacked by Jim Cobb as stupid.  If he wants to compromise and play games that look like crap that's his decision and I won't attack it.  There's only so much time in the day to play games anyway and I prefer not to get aggravated looking at one that looks terrible when there are so many that look fine.  For example I recently bought two Close Combat games.  Very old ones that run just fine on my monitor.  If they can do it properly then anyone can.

You don't need to change the resolution. Are you familiar with driver settings for display scaling?

No. I have an nvidia 9500gt. Looked at the control panel and there's a thing called manage custom resolutions but I didn't understand it. Is this what you're referring to? I'm using the latest nvidia 32 bit driver. If there's a way for 1024x768 or 800x600 to look good on my monitor that would be very nice.
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ORIGINAL: Arinvald
Yeah I don't understand why someone would pass on a game simply because of the minimal time required to get it to look good. I remember back in the DOS days having to tweak and sweat to squeeze out a few more bits of memory to get some games to run at all. People don't realize how much easier things are now but how for the most part game quality has declined in many respects.
I'm with you there Arinvald!!! I had different boot disks set up for different games. I spent dozens of hours messing with autoexec.bat and config.sys to get that last stubborn 1k (yes, for those who haven't a clue, that's 1 Kilobyte! [:D]) of memory freed up so a game would run.

Then, what about the days of the wonderful Spectrum 48k? My first computer. Six minutes to boot Flight Simulator from tape and the anticipation was brilliant. It was actually exciting to wait for that title screen to pop up. Such good memories hehe. These kids of today have been spoiled rotten. The games just work most of the time. If they want to play an old one, simple. Get DOSBox, VMWare or an emulator. Way too easy! [:'(]

I am sooooo old lol! [8|]


I can't remember the name of the programs but I can remember having to use those memory optimizers when Memmaker couldn't sqeeze out enough; which it usually couldn't. Imagine trying to ask players to pay for a program in order to get a game to run. It would be madness today.[X(] I can't say that I ever had to deal with a tape drive.[X(]
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We're truly ages away from where we started.  My first rig was an Apple IIe and I had to wait for it ti come out.  My brother-in-law asked why I wanted a IIe when I could get a II immediately. I said I wanted 64k of RAM. He actually said:

"Jim, nobody will ever need 64k of RAM."
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My first was an apple ii+.  48k ram.  Dos 2.2.  I added 2.3 and made a switch for them.  I remember the old days.  Fooling with the different memory systems. Hours and hours and hours.  My son worked at microsoft in the mid 90s and I complained to him.  Why can't ms just come out with a system that automatically used all the ram.  Then there was win95.  And he thought I was nuts when I got my first pc with a 100 meg hard drive.  Nobody could ever use that much space.

I also remember b&w tv.  So what?  Times change.  Nowadays there's no excuse.
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Yeah, but I love hitting my brother-in-law, the engineer, over the head with his vision.
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Hi.
I´ve played a lot of strategy games on my computer since the Spectrum/C64 days. I love games such TOAW, talonsofts battleground, HPS SIMS, COTA, Take Command..... For several years ago i looked at the "Horse and Musket" games at Shrapnel, but I could not belive how a game could look so ugly. After reading about "Horse and Musket: Volume I, Frederick the Great" and all saying how great it was, "Looks awesome"..Payed, installed...Could somone please tell me what is the beauty about this game? It looks terrible! The graphics is not awesome, it´s just plain ugly.
I love the games from matrix and I bought many of them, TOAW 1, 2, 3 , Highway to the reich, COTA, Battleground series, the games from AEOGD and many more, but this one must be the most ugly looking one.
Very disapointed buyer...
Looking forward to the storm of replays ;)
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Matti,

Graphics are a subjective thing. Horse and Musket: Volume I is much better looking than its predecessors, but I understand that it's not your cup of tea.

The point of this type of game though is the gameplay. Are you disappointed purely based on looks? Have you had a chance to play it yet?

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Hi Eric.
I haven´t played the game much, bought it today. As I wrote in my post, I truly love the games from Matrix that i bought in the past, maybe you guys at Matrix has spoiled me with really beautiful games like Battles in Normany/Italy, COTA and all the other matrix games that i have played.
I´m awere of that graphics isn´t everything when it comes to true strategy-games. But with this one I was disapointed. [:(]
Sure, Empire: Total war is good looking, but I prefer games with more depth and detail, love the games from HPS and Tiller´s battleground, but then allways played in the 2D-mode.
/Matti
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"640K ought to be enough for anybody."

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"640K ought to be enough for anybody."

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ROFMAO!!!
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Is it possible to play in 2D?  Don't much fancy the out-of-scale toy-soldier look.  I know I am in the minority on this issue, but I won't purchase if there is no decent 2D option.  Thanks.

Remember, this isnt a John Tiller game.[:D]
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Well, i am another 2D player, i prefer play with counters because is easy see the situation in the map better than with 3D units... and i can add that i see better 3D art in units in HPS mods than in H&M, sorry but units looks like if i have a high level of alcohol in my blood [:D] and 7 soldiers to represent a unit of 750...

Every mod have a 3D snap
http://ezjax.bravehost.com/Mod/index.html

Here you can see 1 3D image:
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?t=85342

I dont see that the 3D art is bad but it can be much better.

EDIT: for an only 3D game Graphips need more work, if we can only play in 3D at least do it better.
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I use the mods for all my HPS games too.

A few notes on HnM V1 graphics...they are meant to have the miniatures feel for the units and the terrain. It is a syalized design choice. You can also make new units and use them in user created scenarios...maps, OOB, scenario details and data. The game is completely open.

2D units/map is on my future development list as an optional play method.

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Ok, my 2 cent goes to the fact that this is a game with only 3D view and the design of units dont help to an easy understand of the battlefield and the low res... i dont like pay for a game (it could be a great game) and need to wait modders to play it with no protection for me eyes [:'(]
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Mark me down as a 3D player.  IMHO counters are so dry and boring.  Makes it really hard to get into the game.  Animated miniatures done right really adds to the game.  I remember Sid Meiers based his Gettysburg game partly on the Civil War history book (name escapes me) with the bird's eye view of the battles with illustrations of miniature soldiers.  Something similar in high resolution would be a must buy.
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A few notes on HnM V1 graphics...they are meant to have the miniatures feel for the units and the terrain. It is a syalized design choice. You can also make new units and use them in user created scenarios...maps, OOB, scenario details and data. The game is completely open.

2D units/map is on my future development list as an optional play method.

Given the open nature of the program, I was contemplating creating new unit graphics (basically counters).  The isometric viewpoint would be less than optimal for that, however.   I am glad to hear that a 2D unit/map is at least being considered.  It would be wonderful from my perspective to be able to play on something akin to a period style map with units being represented by filled rectangles with the characteristic facing line.
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ROFMAO!!!

Hmmm.... lets see.... Rolling On Floor My A** Off

Hmmm..... I've seen DOGS do something like that. I hear tell it is due to having worms or something along those lines and that there are meds that can be given to clear up the problem.

Zaratoughda

P.S. Yeah, couldn't resist <g>.
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Hexagon, thanks for the links to the mods to the HPS games, never seen them before. Looks great!!
/Matti
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