The First Team: Take Two!

[flaggelant]

adjusted av of 36000 ?? then i'd say there's a long way to go before you're going anywhere
 
doing 3K casualties per bombardment, plus air & grond bombing must be denting both supplies & troops pretty heavy!
(making a run, about every 3 days thats 30K a month [&o])
 
how many supply hits do you get in the proces?
 
is there a standard for the amount of bombers designed for airfield bombing and groundbombing?
i assume your still keeping the AF out of order, but do you still score supply hits on the destroyed AF?
if not lessening the AF bombing and increasing ground bombing might be a thing to try.
Something that might even help could be bombing the industry, if Bombay has recources/ HI then it produces supplies by itself
(assuming that making the siege shorter is more important than getting bombay to produce goods for Japan
 
 
how was the jap adjusted AV?? with plenty of rest/ support/ supply you should be getting a nice score as well
(not the really to the 36000 .. but thats what we got attrition for)
would shifting HQ's or more engeneers from Karachi make a notable difference?
 
 
 
IMO for as long as you are keeping India in your grasp and on the offensive hand you keep the momentum and the Chance of victory
(or just a good extra year of playing without the Allies knocking on the homelands)
 
As soon as you start moving into defensive positions the Allies are good to go and will start building up counter offensives, as long KB as isn't needed for the war in India there remains plenty of strength in the Pacific. Therefor i'd say; stay for as long as it takes. 

[Alikchi2]

Agree with Flagellant. It's worth the resources expended, just keep it going.

[ny59giants]

Aleutians 19 August 42

The Americans continue to look out from the safety of Kodiak. As the screen shot shows, they have a few ships here. Almost daily recon shows about 80 F4F-4 Wildcats and 40 P-40E Warhawks on CAP. There are about 15 to 20 ships disbanded.

here are my disposition of forces.

Cold Bay: 21 Res Eng (recently the rest was brought in by Fast TF and Tina's), 7 Ind Bde, 12 Ind Bde, and frag of 51 Aviation (46 aviation support worth). Forts - 2 (56%). Assault Value is 411 in a mtn hex.[:)] I only have 4k worht of supply, but I will not try to use small AKs to bring in more until Umnak is built up more.

Dutch Harbor: Only a SNLF present. An AS and AV are forward deployed here.

Umnak: SNLF, Nav Gds, 3 x BF, and construction. The AF is 3(5) 22% with Aviation Support at 85. LBA is 2 daitai Zero, daitai of Kates, daitai of Tojo [:)], and 2 chutai of Helen. Supply is over 20k. [:)] One day out is an Army HQ. A week later the 56 Division arrives and two days behind that is the 6 Aviation Rgt. Just to the east of Hokkaido is the 25 Eng, 3 x AA, and 2 x Construction. Once this final TF arrives, then I can move forward more LBA.

Adak: Nothing was here when I took over, but I have added 3 x BF and 1 Gds Mixed Bde. The AF is 1(3) 56% with a daitai of Tojo providing CAP. Plans are to build it up to level 4 or 5 as I have an Aviation Rgt trying to get to the coast from Ichang for transport here.

Amchitka: CD, Nav Gd, BF, and another frag of 51 Aviation (94 aviation support), and recently arrived Air HQ. AF is 4(4) 47% with supplies over 20k. This is my main LBA presence with 2 x daitai of Zero (plus a chutai) and 4 x daitai of Betty. It is exactly 11 hexes to Cold Bay. [;)]

Attu: Naval HQ, construction, BF, CD, and main part of 51 Aviation Rgt (116 aviation support). The naval forces operate from here. An AD, MLE, and AR will be here when the 56 Division arrives before moving forward with the fast MLs. I will move the ML and MLE up to Dutch Harbor and get to work laying mines at Cold Bay.

The Japanese CVs and the rest of KB and Company are in Japan and Shanghai port getting upgrades done and system damage down. Only one CV is abve 5, but she still needs her upgrade. By 1 Sept, the Fleet and the Aleutians should be in pretty good shape.

[Q-Ball]

Nice summary by Michael, like I said not much action in the Aleutians, but plenty of activity.

For the most part in 8/42, time is on the Allies's side. But up there, time right now is on our side. They probably don't know Michaels preparations, but if they did, for sure they would be moving now. I can't imagine what they are waiting for, unless it's a convoy of infantry. Let's cross our fingers and hope they wait another 2 weeks. I think they'll move soon, but I have been saying this now for at least a week.

Once KB is repaired, supplying Cold Bay will be impossible without horrific losses. They will be in a race, knowing that if supplies don't get unloaded there by Halloween, those troops will likely freeze to death.

But as Michael said in his post, looking at the Intel.....that's pretty much the USN right there, and they aren't making much of an attempt to hide it.

[ny59giants]

Line Islands Plus 19 August 42

Christmas Island: 2 x BF with the second just unloaded and supplies needed to finish up. Their is part of a SNLF on three dot bases (two in the screen shot and a third still on Baker) which will be moved up to this base. AF is 0(2) 71% with plans to expand to size 4 and move a daitai of Betty down from the Aleutians to cover the space between here and the Panama shipping channel western map edge.

Palmrya: 11 Ind Bde, 13 Ind Bde, construction, and frag of 10 Aviation Rgt (46 aviation support worth) for the daitai of Zero and chutai of Emily. AF is 4(1), Port 3(2), and Forts 2 - 25% with over 23k supply. Both infantry are half strength with many of those still disabled. They will sit here and recover while the engineers continue to dig in.

Canton: 24 Air HQ, 5 Ind Bde, 22 Eng, 10 Aviation Rgt (main unit with 184 aviation support) for chutai of Zero. AF is 3(2), Port 3(2), and Forts 3 - 26%. I have 4 damaged ships from the "Battle of Palmrya."

Plans: Continue to build up my forts without sending more troops forward. I "might" pull back an Bde from Palmyra to Canton as the Line Islands are nothing but a large speed bump for the Allies.

[ny59giants]

South Pacific 19 August 42

Pago Pago: 11 Air HQ, 2 x construction, 4 BF (120 aviation support), 2 x SNLF with Assault Strength of 225. The base is AF 4(2), Port 3(2), and Fort 5 - 59%. My LBA is a daitai of Betty doing mainly naval search missions.

Upolu: Nav Gd, construction, and BF with Assault Strength of 136. The base is AF 3(3), Port 1(1), and Fort 3 - 77%.

Savaii: 24 Aviation (140 aviation support), CD, Nav Gd, BF with Assault Strength of 179. The base is AF 4(3), Port 1(2) - 95%, Fort 2 - 10%.

Wallis Island: NLF and 2 x BF with Assault Strength of 87. All these LCUs are on Nukufetau and are awaiting transport and supplies.

Tongarapu: Nav Gd and 2 x BF with Assault Strength of 174. The base is AF 2(4) - 40%, Port 1(2) - 84%, and Fort 1 -48%. My LBA is a chutai of Emily.

Suva: South Sea Det and 28 Special BF (90 aviation support) with Assault Strength of 166. The base is AF 4(3) - 39%, Port 3(2) - 64%, and Forts 1 - 7%. There are over 20 ships in port with some ML which are awaiting an MLE to arrive.

Nandi: 1 x BF. The base is AF 3(3), Port 1(1), and Forts 1-68%.

Plans: As can be clearly seen, I don't have much here, but the fear of KB appearing out of the morning mist. I am moving 2 x Eng from South Island in NZ (its winter down there!) to Aukland and after R&R will be loaded with 3 x construction to head for Tongarapu as my mobile engineer group. A sincere thank you to 2nd ACR for this suggestion in a post somewhere a while back. [&o] LBA will be headed this way as the Tojo and Tony are upgraded from Nates and Oscars.

[vettim89]

Wow, looks like an autovictory on 1 Jan 1943 is within your reach especially if you kill more of the Allied fleet in the Gulf of Alaska. Just a note, if I were your opponents, I think I would move south towards NZ first. It is at the end of your supply lines and therefore most vunerable. Of course "vulnerable" is a relative term here

[2ndACR]

No thanks needed really......was just stating what I do.......I use 2-3 engineer regiments or 1 engineer reg with 2-3 const bn's or 4-6 const bn. All move around base to base. I try and keep enough transports to lift 1-2 of each type (6000 worth of AP's for the eng reg and 44,000 worth of AK's for the bn's) so I can rapidly shift them from base to base.
 
I notice alot of bases have 2 base forces listed.......I think this is a waste. Keep 1 base force (full strength) per base........that will support 30 a/c........have a central (within air transport range of surrounding bases) with a single large base force (90 AS points) and place an aviation reg there too. This allows you to have an immediate air threat with the 30 AS based but the ability to airlift a chunk of the aviation reg where needed to boost AS points as needed. I try and create a primary base within Tabby range of bases (large lift capability) surrounding bases get a single naval guard force (100AV) to prevent fast transport easy capture but my primary base will have a large rapid deployment force (at least 300AV) that can be rapidly air lifted into the threatened base.
 
I will max out forts unless a HR prevents that. 3-400 AV behind level 9 forts on an atoll can butcher an invasion force. Even my "tripwire/speedbump bases" get built up to max forts. I will also place coastal gun regiments there to pound invasion forces and then begin airlifting fragments of the gun regiments the moment the invasion is ashore so I can rebuild the reg.
 
Overall, you guys are doing fine.......India is looking rough though.......just keep doing round robin bombardments.

[Hornblower]

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[Canoerebel]

Received this note from John's wife:

Sorry it has taken me some time to get back to you. Life is very upside down right now. We did revoke. John spent two days as real husband and father and is now living in a concrete box. We are awaiting sentencing at the end of the month. He has given me instructions on what/how to post on his forum once we get the final ruling. You are more than welcome to post anything if you wish. If you would like to write him (the old-fashioned way) and keep him up on the WITP, I am sure he would appreciate it.

John Cochran
Weld County Jail
2110 "O" Street
Greeley CO 80631

Thank you for all the thoughts and concern.

Paula

[2ndACR]

What no updates in a long while?

[ny59giants]

24 August 42 - dull days of summer

Aleutians: I have the 56th Division one day from unloading at Umnak with the 6th Aviation Rgt 3 days behind them. 5 days out are the transports with 23rd Engineer, 3 x AA, and 2 x construction. I have 3 x construction four days from Adak. The American CVs and much of the American fleet seems to be at Kodiak. Recon shows 80 Wildcats and 30 Warhawks on CAP there. I've been allowed to reinforce and build up while KB and much of the fleet has been in the Home Islands and Shanghai getting upgrades and system damage removed.

India: Brad has pulled back most of the troops from Bombay to Poona for R&R and to get our disabled squads repaired. This last turn there was warships spotted outside the Aden channel and the Betty/Nells have been warmed up. We haven't given up on Bombay, but are recovering from the campaigns to date.

Overall: I'm moving fuel forward (Kwajalien and Truk) and getting the seriously damaged ships back to Japan. I've taken a more active role in the economy than John - moving supplies to get repairs (oil and HI) done and small expansion of HI as we had less than 10k reserve at one point. Brad has done an excellent job in supply building (2,635,000). I started to move LCUs around to prepare a better defense in the eastern Pacific. Brad is upgrading the Oscar/Nate with the massive influx of Tony and Tojo. The turns have been relatively quite so I haven't posted on a regular basis.

[Q-Ball]

We would update more, but the last month or so has been "Bore in the Pacific"; we are bombing/digging/building everywhere, KB is repairing in Japan, we are stuck at the gates of Bombay it seems, and we don't have a major offensive operation in the works at this point, other than clearing Bombay, clearing Luzon, and planning counter-evil in the Aleutians.

This game is also moving at a snail's pace. It seems one of our Allied opponents has had a number of RL issues that has distracted from WITP, so at the moment we are doing about 3-4 turns a WEEK; that is SLOOOOOOOW. For awhile we were doing 2-3 per day.

I am flatterred someone asked, so thanks for checking in!

[flaggelant]

seems like the allies still don't realize that there is almost nothing more to conquer and that it therefore is their turn to start an offensive [:D]
 
How big a chance do you guys give KB to intervene in the Allied push in the Aleutians?
since they gave you a large amount of time to prepare the defences i'd say KB is almost rested?

[Canoerebel]

Also, what is the point spread and how does your chances for an auto-victory look?  Do you think your opponent's "real life" matters are more a morale problem given their position in the game?

[Hornblower]

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[Q-Ball]

ORIGINAL: flaggelant

seems like the allies still don't realize that there is almost nothing more to conquer and that it therefore is their turn to start an offensive [:D]

How big a chance do you guys give KB to intervene in the Allied push in the Aleutians?
since they gave you a large amount of time to prepare the defences i'd say KB is almost rested?

Almost there. This game is crawling at a snail's pace at the moment, due to personal life concerns of one of the Allied players. It's gotten so slow that this game is at risk of being killed by lack of interest.

Not on my part though. Michael is repairing KB, and it's just about ready. I suggested raiding Kodiak, he wants to build Cold Bay first to get some CAP support, which makes sense. I will probably advocate though soon to sortie KB, on the presumption that the ships at Kodiak are going to do something soon, which isn't the case yet. They have to move at some point, right? If they attempt a relief of Kodiak, and we have KB lurking in the background, that could present an opportunity to wipe their CV's out of the war.

A great question is what they are waiting for at Kodiak. I can only guess a ground reinforcement or something like that.

[Q-Ball]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Also, what is the point spread and how does your chances for an auto-victory look?  Do you think your opponent's "real life" matters are more a morale problem given their position in the game?

We are at 4.5 to 1 at this point, I don't see us getting auto-victory unless one of the following happens:
1. Fall of Bombay
2. Fall of Manila
3. Destruction of USN CVs

Bombay is VERY tough, and to take Manila we would need to start committing troops pretty soon. We only have a few Nav Gd units in the PI watching the Allies go hungry, I suppose at some point we have to clean them out.

I wonder if the real life is more a morale problem myself. I think their morale is low, but it should be higher.

[Hornblower]

Please keep up the updates.. I would like to see this to the end ...

[Q-Ball]

We have done exactly ONE turn since Sunday; and at the moment, my partner has had a turn in his in-box for over a day, and has been uncharacteristically silent. He is usually right on top of it.

Not sure what is going on, I may send a note out to the gang to guage interest, or maybe make it a 1x1 to keep it moving.

Maybe it's AE fatigue? I for one though will probably keep my WITP games going, at least until the first patch or two for AE.