New Beginnings Game

[Arditi]

    I had the turn open on my computer for a few hours, while away, and we had a local power downage due to weather.  I forgot to explain.  My apologies.
     Regards, Arditi[:)]

[Arditi]

ORIGINAL: seille

Hmm, not sure i like the idea Russ. Not that a break isn´t appreciated, but i think this could screw the game balance.
Even AD decided to make peace with Tweber this doesn´t mean he´ll leave our alliance.
If you now stop fighting me the most important target of YOUR alliance is in danger, taking me out of the game as fast as possible.

If you now leave me alone i think this will cause a comeback of my forces. You really want this ?
To be honest i would not like to see a 4:1 situation in the end. 3:2 was ok especially looking at the production. So pls find a solution with Tom.
Tom is fighting me and also George and i can really follow him that he don´t want a 3rd bigger war. I know the situation...

I´ll do my turn this afternoon.

If most player want a break due to holiday season it´s ok, but i fear this would give a long break since AD is now gone and if i remember right George in august.
As i said i´m willing to play for them. With our alliance this shouldn´t be a problem.

This is a multiplayer game...not a "what's fair game". There should be a clear winner in the end. If I decide to switch sides, it will be my choice and for whatever misguided or brilliant reasons I decide to do so. Also, for me to lay off of you...you will have to give me some land...for I am your better ...and your master.[:D]

Also, do not take a break this summer. I will find a replacement for myself as well.[:)]
Remember gents...this is a multiplayer game...enjoy the uncertainty!
Regards, Arditi[:)]

[tweber]

ORIGINAL: seille

Where do you see the problem if i play now for AD and later for George ?

Same reason you gave me last game ; )

It comes down to that the reason to play a multi-player game (and tolerate the longer delays) is that it is multi-player.

[seille]

That´s acompliment if you think i would perform better than my friends [:)]
But i think last game was much different. Russ had huge production power and high tech units, but
didn´t use them well (much better in this game !!). His power in your hands ->good bye little seille [:D]
This game my allies play well so far. Don´t think i can do it much better.
 
And yes, it is a multiplayer, but so far we agreed on playing fast as possible without too many delays
and now we want to make a 6 weeks break ?
 
But if you think it make things more fair then we do the break. Will be a long time to wait...
 
@Russ
Yes, do what you want. Fight or don´t fight .... your decision. Was just worried game could be over too soon.
You want my land ? Want to be my master ? Muhahahaha, me Freitag ?
How about this ? You try to get my land and i try to prevent you from doing this.
AD is my ally and he´s fighting you. We fight you together. Pretty easy.
 
 

[seille]

ORIGINAL: tweber
It comes down to that the reason to play a multi-player game (and tolerate the longer delays) is that it is multi-player.

Upps, we tolerate delays ? Hihi, here you don´t speak for me..
First 3 weeks of getting ass kicks and when i want myself start kicking then you want me to wait 6 weeks ?
Thats hard...

[tweber]

ORIGINAL: seille

ORIGINAL: tweber
It comes down to that the reason to play a multi-player game (and tolerate the longer delays) is that it is multi-player.

Upps, we tolerate delays ? Hihi, here you don´t speak for me..
First 3 weeks of getting ass kicks and when i want myself start kicking then you want me to wait 6 weeks ?
Thats hard...

The ideal situation was that everyone played their turn. However, feel free to play my turn if you want to speed things along. I will wait.

[seille]

Playing your turn ? Do i have to kill my own men or can i retreat ? [:D]
Don´t think it´s possible to scuttle ships, or ? [:'(]

[seille]

You see it´s not good to even talk about delays.
Did the break already start ?

[george1972]

I will play my turn this evening. Was at a festival near Ratingen yesterday and got back really late.

[TheArchduke]

Well, I am open to both.

We can have
- a break
- Seille play my account
- get a new player thanks to my long absence

I have every faith in Seille to play my turns, but I can understand Tom´s predicament.

[seille]

New player just because of vacation ? No, don´t like this idea.
But it will be a very long break if we pause the game.

[tweber]

Sorry Seille, you only get to play one side like everyone else in the game.  ; )
 
@AD - when are you off?  Have a great vacation.

[Arditi]

  I would prefer that we continue the game through replacements.  I am hearing differing opinions.  What is the consensus?  Where is the turn?
     Regards, "The Master of The Universe and AT"[;)]

[seille]

I think Tom just doesn´t want ME to play their turns.
I would do it following the guidelines of my allies. (so for example no offensive actions against
Vikings with AD´s forces respecting their non agression pact).  Not taking their cities as you did it last game with Giacomos
when i came closer [;)] .

If Tom really don´t want it we should respect this. But as i wrote this will delay the game a lot.
AD starts holiday soon and George if i remember right in August. So we then would continue end of August probably....

But before we find new players to replace the guy´s on vacation i prefer the break.

[tweber]

ORIGINAL: seille

I think Tom just doesn´t want ME to play their turns.
I would do it following the guidelines of my allies. (so for example no offensive actions against
Vikings with AD´s forces respecting their non agression pact).  Not taking their cities as you did it last game with Giacomos
when i came closer [;)] .

If Tom really don´t want it we should respect this. But as i wrote this will delay the game a lot.
AD starts holiday soon and George if i remember right in August. So we then would continue end of August probably....

But before we find new players to replace the guy´s on vacation i prefer the break.

If you really want to continue play, then I would agree provided AD offers and / or accepts peace with all regimes before he checks out and you agree not to do any DOWs. Otherwise, I would want to wait. If someone DOWs AD's regime, then you could fight on AD's behalf.

[george1972]

Turn to Tom.

Some aerial skirmishes and my troops took another village. Slowly some more juicy targets are coming into range...

As for my opinion on pause/replace/play 2 empires: I don't really have a strong opinion on anything as long as the player whose empire it is agrees with the arrangement.

Personally I prefer to play my turns myself, but I can understand it if the rest doesn't want to wait for a long time.

[seille]

ORIGINAL: tweber
If you really want to continue play, then I would agree provided AD offers and / or accepts peace with all regimes before he checks out and you agree not to do any DOWs. Otherwise, I would want to wait. If someone DOWs AD's regime, then you could fight on AD's behalf.

As i said i would respect his agreement with you as long as i don´t see any offensive actions (blocking naval pathes, flying agressive recon over
his territory). Making peace with all is no option since he´s fighting the sea reaiders. I would not stop this fight ! He´s still part of our alliance.

For George things look different. He is at war and he won´t make peace with you.
In general i would follow the guidelines of the players as good as i can and hope to give them their regimes back in good shape.



Ok, now to the most important thing. Where the hell is my turn ?

[tweber]

ORIGINAL: seille

ORIGINAL: tweber
If you really want to continue play, then I would agree provided AD offers and / or accepts peace with all regimes before he checks out and you agree not to do any DOWs. Otherwise, I would want to wait. If someone DOWs AD's regime, then you could fight on AD's behalf.

As i said i would respect his agreement with you as long as i don´t see any offensive actions (blocking naval pathes, flying agressive recon over
his territory). Making peace with all is no option since he´s fighting the sea reaiders. I would not stop this fight ! He´s still part of our alliance.

For George things look different. He is at war and he won´t make peace with you.
In general i would follow the guidelines of the players as good as i can and hope to give them their regimes back in good shape.



Ok, now to the most important thing. Where the hell is my turn ?

Guess we wait then

[seille]

Hello Tom,

It was clear from the start that any player who is out for vacation can let play his turn by a friend or allied player.
I offered this to both Thomas and George and they accepted.
I also accepted to keep the peace between AD´s empire and the Vikings. This wasn´t what you asked for
continuing the game ?

At game start we did not agree on a rule that for a longer break we wait for the player to return.
We didn´t do this in the last game and we should not do it in the current. It was always clear that for a phase of absence
a friendly player can do the turns for that time.
So make a break for some weeks, but same time look for a new player to replace me. I´ll then give him my password.
I can wait a week, but not that long.
That break started already since AD did not get a turn and won´t be available longer.

edit: And looking at one of the first postings in this threat the break will go until 23th august at least [:(]

[TheArchduke]

Nods, I am packing right now. I will check in per internet later, but can not do AT turns from now on. I hope I have not spelled the end of the game.