AE on a Mac

Cajun Tifoso · Post by **Cajun Tifoso** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:47 pm

I am thinking about pulling the trigger for a MacBook Pro for all sorts of reasons. I don't really play a lot of wargames anymore because of time and work, but I still do play WITP (and will play WITE when it comes out).

I know that BootCamp allows you to run Windows pretty well (from our IT guys).

Any idea about how AE would work on a Mac through BootCamp or other similar program?

Patrick

Terminus · Post by **Terminus** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:58 pm

I *think*, but it will have to be verified, that AE has been tested on a Mac and found good.

(sorry, not much help, I know...)[;)]

Apollo11 · Post by **Apollo11** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:58 pm

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Cajun Tifoso

I am thinking about pulling the trigger for a MacBook Pro for all sorts of reasons. I don't really play a lot of wargames anymore because of time and work, but I still do play WITP (and will play WITE when it comes out).

I know that BootCamp allows you to run Windows pretty well (from our IT guys).

Any idea about how AE would work on a Mac through BootCamp or other similar program?

Patrick

BootCamp is a way for new Macs to load Windows OS of your choosing at boot. The WitP-AE (and almost any other program / game) will run good on it because the MacBook will then be plain and ordinary PC...[:)]

Thus MacBook with boocamp equals ordinary PC (i.e. then you don't have any connection to Mac at all)!

Leo "Apollo11"

Zacktar · Post by **Zacktar** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:58 pm

I've been running WITP under Parallels with no trouble at all. I expect Boot Camp would work at least as well.

wgs_explorer · Post by **wgs_explorer** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:52 pm

I am currently running WitP on a MacBook Pro (2 years old at this point) and I can run it on BootCamp, Parallels and VMWare Fusion (another program like Parallels). All these options are fine. VMWare and Parallels allow you to run Windows while in Mac (splitting your RAM between the two) while BootCamp is booted into when starting the machine. Parallels and VMWare Fusion are each about $80 and BootCamp is free.

Hope this helps.

Bill

Cajun Tifoso · Post by **Cajun Tifoso** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:05 pm

Thanks for the advice. Only a true die hard fan would understand that if WITP and AE would not work, I would probably not get the Mac.

Thanks, again.

Apollo11 · Post by **Apollo11** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:18 pm

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: wgs_explorer

I am currently running WitP on a MacBook Pro (2 years old at this point) and I can run it on BootCamp, Parallels and VMWare Fusion (another program like Parallels). All these options are fine. VMWare and Parallels allow you to run Windows while in Mac (splitting your RAM between the two) while BootCamp is booted into when starting the machine. Parallels and VMWare Fusion are each about $80 and BootCamp is free.

How are DirectX and OpenGL PC games on Mac running VMWare and/or Parallels?

On PC virtualizators ordinary programs work rather well but not games (i.e. 3d acceleration is not possible).

BTW, it is a bit better with games on Linux in virtualization (Wine for example)...

Leo "Apollo11"

Crimguy · Post by **Crimguy** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:21 pm

3D acceleration is there in VMWare and Parallels, but it is pretty slow. I've run COTA, WitP, and HPS games without any degradation of speed. However, anything with whiz-bang graphics slows to a crawl. Take Command 2nd Manassas is too slow, and has some bugs. I've also noticed that AGEOD's AACW is too slow to play.

Be warned about one thing: WitP constantly seems to draw CPU cycles, even when it's not doing anything. It sucks your battery down pretty fast, no matter what OS you're using.

Apollo11 · Post by **Apollo11** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:16 am

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Crimguy

3D acceleration is there in VMWare and Parallels, but it is pretty slow. I've run COTA, WitP, and HPS games without any degradation of speed. However, anything with whiz-bang graphics slows to a crawl. Take Command 2nd Manassas is too slow, and has some bugs. I've also noticed that AGEOD's AACW is too slow to play.

Be warned about one thing: WitP constantly seems to draw CPU cycles, even when it's not doing anything. It sucks your battery down pretty fast, no matter what OS you're using.

Thanks for info Matt!

Leo "Apollo11"

treespider · Post by **treespider** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:27 am

During testing I ran AE on an iMac for a time ...When we first started testing I tried using Parallels with AE...it worked, but not as well as when I decided to run it using BootCamp. When using Parallels I had issues with sound performance...under Bootcamp I had no problems at all.

Nikademus · Post by **Nikademus** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:18 pm

AE runs perfectly fine off of Bootcamp for Mac. Been using one for months with no issues.

aoffen · Post by **aoffen** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:25 pm

Anyone have any idea on what memory you might need to allocate to the virtual windows machine (using Fusion 2) to make the program run smoothly? I have 4gig available with 1gig used by Fusion when its running. Under Bootcamp all the memory is available right?
Rgds
Andrew

AttuWatcher · Post by **AttuWatcher** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:41 pm

I don't see any reason why all memory wouldn't be available under bootcamp but don't quote me on that. I highly recommend boot camp though. It has better performance, stability, and compatibility than anything else I've tried.

jjax · Post by **jjax** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:48 am

ORIGINAL: aoffen

Anyone have any idea on what memory you might need to allocate to the virtual windows machine (using Fusion 2) to make the program run smoothly? I have 4gig available with 1gig used by Fusion when its running. Under Bootcamp all the memory is available right?
Rgds
Andrew

Hi,

I use bootcamp on my mac partly for work and partly for WITP. Bootcamp simply partitions your hard drive and lets you install windows on the new section of your hard drive. Therefore, windows has access to all your system resources.

I would think allowing 1 gig on a virtual machine would be fine. But i would go with bootcamp. In that way, you actually use all of that computer you bought for WITP AE.

wgs_explorer · Post by **wgs_explorer** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:05 pm

On my (old) MacBook Pro I have 3GB of RAM--the computer won't recognize any more, even though I have put 4GB in it--and I split it 50/50 between Parallels and Mac and things run fine.

One thing about running WitP under Parallels or VMWare Fusion: don't try to resize the Parallels/VMWare window while playing WitP. You'll end up with garbage showing inside the Parallels/VMWare window.

Bill

Spadowski · Post by **Spadowski** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:33 am

Running Bootcamp myself and to be quite honest my Macbook (I have the white one) runs games as well as, if not better in some cases than my desktop.

WITP runs just fine. (In XP. If you use Vista, all bets are off.)

Wittmann30 · Post by **Wittmann30** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:47 am

Having a white Macbook C2D (4GB Ram) connected with an external display. Using Parallels now because i found out that Fusion doesn't stretch the game display of AE ( only showing 1024x768 with black bars left and right). Parallels stretch the game display to max

All works perfect under Parallels, no crashes so far, sometimes some slowdowns in AE but which are very rare...

henri51 · Post by **henri51** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:58 am

I am running AE on two Macs under Bootcamp and XP Pro, a 3 GHz quad Mac and a 3 GHz Imac, both with a 24-inch screen. The game runs perfectly well, as well as many other games like he whole Total War series, mny of the recent Matrix games, Hearts of Iron III, World of Warcraft (which I usually play on the Mac)etc. I have yet to find a game that will not work. Under Bootcamp, the Mac IS a PC - Bootcamp is only the interface for the Mac peripherals (mouse, screen, etc).

So go for it, but if you use an emulator like Parallels, expect some slowdown.

Henri

The Gnome · Post by **The Gnome** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:57 am

I run AE using VMWare, just make sure you have more than 2GB of ram

Oliver Heindorf · Post by **Oliver Heindorf** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:08 am

13" mac book late 2007 here - runs ok, es what crimguy said, the fan is always on.......

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