Ellice and Palnyra Won't Expand Beyond Airfield Size 2!

[BillBrown]

thanks for the info dawy, now do you know where the air group sizes are?

[IntellWeenie]

I've also noticed that the B-25's reduced range (5 instead of 6) combined with the fewer number of size 4 airfield locations on the path to the Solomons makes staging them out there a lot more dependent on ships. Before, it was simple to fly them directly from the US to the S. Pacific with only a couple of hops. Now, they would lose too much experience for me to want to do this...

[Ranger-75]

Originally posted by GET TRANSPT
I entirely agree with Ranger 75's post-- at the risk of having him post another 15 posts today.


Moving air groups in Pacwar occurs very often, according to the dicates of the mobile, far- ranging Pacific war (air groups tend to go were the enemy carriers or transport TF's are.)

Hey GT, I need to get up over 500 posts before my next exercise deployment (where I likely won't have access to the forums).

Besides, my average is only 1.19 posts per day. :p but I only post into 3 or 4 forums.

Now i have to go and increase that average

[Ranger-75]

Originally posted by Dawy
For those who wish to modify the airfield sizes in the EXE, here are the hex locations to do it...

ADDRESS: 3B3B1 ---> 3B3B9

You should see a string of hex values like this

02 04 08 09 09 09 08 06 04

3B3B1 = Terrain 1 Airfield & Port Max..
through to
3B3B9 = Terrain 9 Airfield & Port Max..

Just be careful you don't screw it up...

I'm thinking 4 4 8 9 9 9 8 6 6.

Guadalcanal, a type 9 terrain, had several permanent (steel / concrete) airfields with hundreds of planes by early - mid 1943. And remember it was Henderson Field based P38-Lightnings thqt shot down Yammamoto in April 1943 - how far away is Bouganville on the Map???

[Ranger-75]

Originally posted by BillBrown
thanks for the info dawy, now do you know where the air group sizes are?

Yes and how about the port size indicators. These should be REDUCED for atolls and I'd like to know if we can put 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E or 0F for higher limits in the middle terrain types. Maybe I'll try it in a test.

[sw30]

Originally posted by IntellWeenie
I've also noticed that the B-25's reduced range (5 instead of 6) combined with the fewer number of size 4 airfield locations on the path to the Solomons makes staging them out there a lot more dependent on ships. Before, it was simple to fly them directly from the US to the S. Pacific with only a couple of hops. Now, they would lose too much experience for me to want to do this...

Ok, I'm going entirely from memory here, so I could be wrong about the names of the bases, but there are routes available..

For range 4 planes, send them up north, to dutch harbor, down to midway, to johnston island, down south to Canton (?) and you can get over to Fiji and New Caledonia.

For range 5 planes, you can go to the Hawaiian islands, to johnston, and join the air convoy there.

This means that a size 4 airgroup with range 4+ can get to the front in 1 turn. (and a 14 airgroup can do so with the loss of 5 planes.) The only problems, as I've said are the naval fighters, DBs, and TBs. But it should be ok to use AVs and CVEs for them.

Jeff

[sw30]

Originally posted by Ranger-75

And remember it was Henderson Field based P38-Lightnings thqt shot down Yammamoto in April 1943 - how far away is Bouganville on the Map???

Bougainville is 5 hexes away from Guadalcanal on the map. I believe even a range 3 plane would be able to make that hit. Planes hit bases at 1.5*range, I don't know if 4.5 is good enough to hit something 5 away. In any case, both P38J and F are listed with a range of 5, easily able to cover the distance.

Jeff

[Jeremy Pritchard]

Actually, the level 2 for Atolls was a remnant of a test that I did a while back. I thought I got rid of it, but I guess a slightly older EXE was sent with 3.1.

Just do the hexediting as posted above, and it should be perfectly fine.

I have added a rule for the House Rules that deals with Atolls and their aircraft capacity. They should be limited to 100 aircraft.

For example..

2 Fighter Groups (48 x 2 = 96)
1 Fighter Group and 1 Bomber Group (48 + 36 = 84)
1 USMC Fighter/Bomber Group + 2 Bomber Groups (24 + 36 x 2 = 98)
2 USMC Fighter/Bomber Groups + 1 Fighter Group (24 x 2 + 48 = 96)
4 USMC Figher/Bomber Groups (4 x 24 = 96)

Patrol aircraft, because they are floatplane and flyingboat types should not be limited as their requirements for operations are extremely minimal.

[Ranger-75]

Originally posted by Jeremy Pritchard
Actually, the level 2 for Atolls was a remnant of a test that I did a while back. I thought I got rid of it, but I guess a slightly older EXE was sent with 3.1.

Just do the hexediting as posted above, and it should be perfectly fine.

I have added a rule for the House Rules that deals with Atolls and their aircraft capacity. They should be limited to 100 aircraft.

For example..

2 Fighter Groups (48 x 2 = 96)
1 Fighter Group and 1 Bomber Group (48 + 36 = 84)
1 USMC Fighter/Bomber Group + 2 Bomber Groups (24 + 36 x 2 = 98)
2 USMC Fighter/Bomber Groups + 1 Fighter Group (24 x 2 + 48 = 96)
4 USMC Figher/Bomber Groups (4 x 24 = 96)

Patrol aircraft, because they are floatplane and flyingboat types should not be limited as their requirements for operations are extremely minimal.

Jeremy, what are the revised limits on absolute sizes for air groups of both sides?

It used to be (for US anyway)
50 Army & allied fighters
40 All tac / heavy bombers
30 USMC groups (never figured out the USMC B-25s)
around 20 for patrol groups I say around, because they had anything from 20 to 29 in a group and never went up or down.

[Jeremy Pritchard]

Figher and Fighter-Bomber
48

Tactical Bomber, Heavy Bomber, non-USMC Dive Bomber and Torpedo Bomber
36

USMC aircraft of all types
24

Patrol
24

[Jeremy Pritchard]

USMC groups were lowered because the game had them able to build up to much higher levels then historically. I did this because this was the way they were.

From 1941-43 USMC groups had an established strength of 18
From 1943-45 USMC groups had an established strength of 24

Some went below, some above, but the average was those stated above. USMC air groups historically rarely got to 30, and why make the game even easier for the allies?

I chose the value of 24 so they will reach the historical maximum, but not become uber-squadrons.

[Ranger-75]

Jeremy, That's cool (both sides, right?).