MANUAL Question - AIR Team - Training Command

[Bliztk]

Could anyone explain me what are the effects of sending pilots to training command ?

The manual says that you can send pilots to it, and it refers to 16.3, while it only mentions that pilots here are in the Pilot Reserve Pool

[CV Zuikaku]

Also is the training command still broken? Is it going to be fixed in the first patch? and how is the pilot training influenced by withdrawing of top combat pilots to training command? More trained pilots? More experience for trained pilots? Both?

[Bliztk]

bump for changing correctly the subject [:)]

[TheElf]

wow...that was fast...[X(]

[TheElf]

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Could anyone explain me what are the effects of sending pilots to training command ?

The manual says that you can send pilots to it, and it refers to 16.3, while it only mentions that pilots here are in the Pilot Reserve Pool

Sending pilots to the training command does several things

1. It takes skilled pilots off the front lines and makes room for a less EXP'd pilot to either gain combat EXP or be killed.

2. Pilots in the training command increase the rate and quality of new pilots

3. The Quality increase reaches a point of diminishing returns if Pilots are coming out at their national average, but point 1 above and the rate at which they train is still baing affected.

[TheElf]

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Also is the training command still broken? Is it going to be fixed in the first patch? *and how is the pilot training influenced by withdrawing of top combat pilots to training command? *More trained pilots? *More experience for trained pilots? Both?

The training Command is not broken.

see my previous post.

[CV Zuikaku]

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Also is the training command still broken? Is it going to be fixed in the first patch? *and how is the pilot training influenced by withdrawing of top combat pilots to training command? *More trained pilots? *More experience for trained pilots? Both?

The training Command is not broken.

see my previous post.

Well, it was a few weeks ago. YH in his AAR explained that pilots sent to training command simply disappear, and that we must not send any pilot to training command so we avoid losing them. That was supposed to be patched after release... Is that bug history already? [X(] [&o]

[TheElf]

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Also is the training command still broken? Is it going to be fixed in the first patch? *and how is the pilot training influenced by withdrawing of top combat pilots to training command? *More trained pilots? *More experience for trained pilots? Both?

The training Command is not broken.

see my previous post.

Well, it was a few weeks ago. YH in his AAR explained that pilots sent to training command simply disappear, and that we must not send any pilot to training command so we avoid losing them. That was supposed to be patched after release... Is that bug history already? [X(] [&o]

I haven't seen that, and if YH posted it in his AAR, he should have also posted it on the Dev forum, which I haven't seen. Not to say he didn't just that I haven't seen it.

My coder has assured me that the code is working as designed.

[CV Zuikaku]

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The training Command is not broken.

see my previous post.

Well, it was a few weeks ago. YH in his AAR explained that pilots sent to training command simply disappear, and that we must not send any pilot to training command so we avoid losing them. That was supposed to be patched after release... Is that bug history already? [X(] [&o]

I haven't seen that, and if YH posted it in his AAR, he should have also posted it on the Dev forum, which I haven't seen. Not to say he didn't just that I haven't seen it.

My coder has assured me that the code is working as designed.

Well, I'm glad to hear that everything is working fine with training command. here is the page where YH was explaining training command to us. somewhere arrond the middle of the page...
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[Barb]

Elf: I thought a tester was the person who has to make himself sure the things works properly [:D]

[viberpol]

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Then, if you have some time and good will, can you tell us something more about replacement pilots? [;)] How can we increase their quality? Are we able to withdraw some crack combat pilots to act as instructors and help in training pilots in flight schools? Something like that was mentioned a year ago, but I don't understand what is it working like. Or if it has been implemented at all...

Well, I will try, but frankly a lot of it wont make any sense to you, because honestly, it doesnt to me either.

If you hit the "I" key or click on the "view intell reports" icon on the top of the screen you get the top pix which is pretty much the same as WitP. When you hit the "pilot replacements" button you get the 2nd screen. I will try to explain what this means part by part.

This is where it gets confusing. If you look at the IJN line, I was under the impression that the "1615" was the number of pilots that had finished training, but I was told that this number is the total number of pilots in the complete training process. I dont understand how this could be true because if you add up all the pilots in training, its almost 2000 so that explanation doesnt wash.

When they finish training they come out with 35 experience. US Navy is the only ones that come out with more than this, they come out with 40.

150 pilots are added to this pool every month. I am not sure if this is on a daily basis (ie 4.5 pilots a day) or a monthly lump sum. These pilots are added to the "months 1-3" box. Im inclined to think its a monthly lump sum.

The next 4 "boxes" are various stages of training shown as number of pilots and their experience level. You can see from this that I have 438 pilots in this stage of their training, and if they were to be used, they would only have 1 experience! After a pilot has been in this box for 3 months, he moves to the next one (the 4-6 box). I have 463 pilots in this box currently and if they were to be used, they would have 12 experience. Again, after a pilot sits in this box for 3 months, he moves to the next. I have 457 pilots in the 7-9 box and if used they would have 21 experience. Another 3 months here and they move to the last box which has 444 pilots and if used here they would have 28 experience. After they are finished here, they go to the "pool" which I believe is the 1615 figure. Unless a coder comes in and says otherwise Im going to have to say thats how it works to the best of my understanding.

Pilots are used in the order that they were put in the pool. That is, the longest in training is used first. You dont select which box you use pilots from. First in, first out. Period. After you use up all the pilots you have in the "trained" pool, you start tapping those in the 10-12 box. If these are all used up, you then start on the 7-9 box, ect.

If you click on the "reserve pool" button you get the next screen. At the top it says that there are 117 pilots in reserve, either in a groups pool or in the general reserve. Note also, that this list shows your wounded pilots also (they wont appear in the groups pilot list). It isnt shown on this display, but of the 117 pilots here, only 2 arent assigned to a group. These both are listed as "patrol reserve" and 1 of them has 55 experience and the other has 47. Now its possible that when a pilot finishes his training in the 10-12 box from the last screen he is added to this pool, but frankly Im not sure.

Any pilot that has 80+ experience and is in this pool is eligible to be withdrawn to "training command". His name will appear in yellow and if clicked, a pop-up box will ask if you want to transfer him. This box does nothing at this time, and I was under the impression it was to be removed from the game but I see its still in there. Do NOT say "yes" as your pilot will go poof and it does nothing for you. The original specs were to have him boost the trainees experience or shorten their training or similar but was never implemented.

[castor troy]

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Could anyone explain me what are the effects of sending pilots to training command ?

The manual says that you can send pilots to it, and it refers to 16.3, while it only mentions that pilots here are in the Pilot Reserve Pool

Sending pilots to the training command does several things

1. It takes skilled pilots off the front lines and makes room for a less EXP'd pilot to either gain combat EXP or be killed.

2. Pilots in the training command increase the rate and quality of new pilots

3. The Quality increase reaches a point of diminishing returns if Pilots are coming out at their national average, but point 1 above and the rate at which they train is still baing affected.

I´ve thought this wasn´t implemented? [X(] At least that´s what I´ve read in some of the tester´s AARs.

edit: oops, people were asking the same question faster than me... disregard...

[viberpol]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

2. Pilots in the training command increase the rate and quality of new pilots

And if training command is implemented how does exactly it impact the pilot training program? Meaning... say 10 of exp>90 pilots in TC = ...

How can these pilots be brought back from the TC or reserve pool back to the daitai?
Does "get pilot" button in a squadron view bring new pilots from replacement pool (months 10-12)or the reserve pool or from TC?

[NormS3]

can you get the pilot back from the training command? After a delay? Does/can he go back to previous unit

[viberpol]

BUMP

Can you please describe in more details how the system of training/training command/increasing the qualities with veterans/pilot reserve/get pilot (from where?) really works in AE?
This is crucial for all JFBs.

"The world wants to know"... [:D]
It seems we have some small dissonance here...

[romanovich]

Second that.

[kmussler]

This is from the manual (p.260, top of page)

"Some groups can be defined as “Training Groups”. Not to be confused with groups on a mission
of Training. These Training Groups can be loaded up with pilots from the last few months of
the training roster, and be assigned training missions like any other group. But they cannot fly
combat missions. Once the pilots have gained a certain level of skills, they can be released
back into the Reserve Pilot pool. Instructors can be pulled into the group to increase training."

These same groups appear to be the same ones experienced pilots from the reserve pool (instructors) can be added to, and then placed back into the reserve pool once the training group has trained up to a level you feel is adequate.

At least it looks like that's the way it works to me. Pretty cool.

Kurt

[Andy Mac]

Mass kamikaze Tiger Moths (or the japanese equivalnet thereon.....)
 
 

[kmussler]

Now that would be interesting![:D]

It raises a question, though. Let say a "Training Group" is based in Tokyo. Then Halsey comes off the coast and raids Tokyo. The manual says these "Training Groups" don't participate in combat. What if their base is attacked? Do fighter "Training Groups" defend their base or run away?

Kurt

[pad152]

I'm some what suprised the option to select a pilot when getting a pilot replacement wasn't implemented, I always throught it was odd that you can get an ace when getting a replacement for a Glen then have to settle with average pilot when filling out your carrier air groups! All the training in the world doesn't mean anything if you can't get the best pilots for your carrier air groups.[8|]