Take Command 2nd Manassas

[Lord_Stanley]

Didn't mean to bash the H/M mod crew, I saw it as more of a fanbase issue - particularly since there seemed to have been considerable overlap with the NTW2 community.

NTW2 crew, didn't know that would have thought they were modding amateurs as while they were certainly dedicated to the cause the quality was not up to stuff. Mind mentioning who?
 

I started up TC2M again and yet again, I can only directly command one regiment, when I play as a division commander no orders seem to work, and it's stuck on the ''halt division'' button and when I double click some place to move the division it does nothing.Now I know why I uninstalled this game.[8|]

If you have done a complete fresh re-installe and also applied the last patch there should not be a problem, the game is usually stable and has no problems with drivers or other types of systems conflicts.
The only situation I can remember of a player not being able to control units was when a teenager logged on to scream about a broken game and later was found out that he had pirated the game.
Funny stuff that was.

[V22 Osprey]

ORIGINAL: Lord_Stanley

Didn't mean to bash the H/M mod crew, I saw it as more of a fanbase issue - particularly since there seemed to have been considerable overlap with the NTW2 community.

NTW2 crew, didn't know that would have thought they were modding amateurs as while they were certainly dedicated to the cause the quality was not up to stuff. Mind mentioning who?

I started up TC2M again and yet again, I can only directly command one regiment, when I play as a division commander no orders seem to work, and it's stuck on the ''halt division'' button and when I double click some place to move the division it does nothing.Now I know why I uninstalled this game.[8|]

If you have done a complete fresh re-installe and also applied the last patch there should not be a problem, the game is usually stable and has no problems with drivers or other types of systems conflicts.
The only situation I can remember of a player not being able to control units was when a teenager logged on to scream about a broken game and later was found out that he had pirated the game.
Funny stuff that was.

I know sarcasm when I see it....I sure hope you aren't accusing me of anything, are you?

Pretty much everyone on here know's I'm a teenager, I'm saying I have a problem with the game, the current situation appears to be resemble what you are saying above....I think you are accusing me!

[JudgeDredd]

V22 - you need to install the latest patch from the dev website - you are suffering the same issue I and Goblin had - it's only a patch and the game works - and is a great game to boot.

[jackx]

NTW2 crew, didn't know that would have thought they were modding amateurs as while they were certainly dedicated to the cause the quality was not up to stuff. Mind mentioning who?

Community, not crew. IIRC, none of the Lordz were involved with the mod, there may even have been some fallout over unauthorized use of some of their material...
The mod was, however, certainly discussed on the Lordz forum, and those discussions mostly went the way of BSS, or general self-righteous arguments about who got it "right", and thus gained an extra inch by online mastery of "historical accuracy".
That didn't bode well, and as my interest in napoleonics isn't that great to begin with, I then just steered clear of the mod.

The only situation I can remember of a player not being able to control units was when a teenager logged on to scream about a broken game and later was found out that he had pirated the game.
Funny stuff that was.

Tsk, tsk - the youth of today. Can't even get their pirated games to run anymore. ;/

@V22: Take it easy, nobody's having a go at you - or at least I'm not, and I don't think anyone else in here is, either. Besides, the simple fact that you're here pretty much completely excludes you from any and all criticism directed at the "typical (online) teenager (TM)".

[V22 Osprey]

I installed the latest patch this morning, seems to work fine how, thanks Judge.

The only reason I thought he was accusing me was because I am a teenager, and I was complaining about a problem....I figured that would have to be some coincidence...

[Goblin]

Sounds like the same problem I had, Zeke. Have you tried the patch from Mad Minute game's forum? I found it in the very first Announcement, IIRC. If you haven't applied it, and can't find it, I'll track it down. Lemme know.



Goblin

[Lord_Stanley]

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[jackx]

Yeah, I'm liable to have confused things - it's been a while, and I wasn't paying that much attention in the first place. I'm sure I heard some "stolen content" accusations, but that bit of drama could easily have played out on IRC or MSN...


Tim/Lava did most (all?) the 3d and sprite work for the AWI mod, too, and in great quality.

[doomtrader]

Is this game something like "Sid Meier's Gettysburg!" ?

[JudgeDredd]

Sorry - I was thinking of the John Tiller Battleground games when I said nope

[Arsan]

ORIGINAL: doomtrader

Is this game something like "Sid Meier's Gettysburg!" ?

Mmm... yes! [:)]

[jackx]

Yes, in a way. It's a lot more detailed and in-depth, but it's the same basic gameplay model. Plays smoother than GB IMHO, because when commanding a lot of troops, you can leave some of the mirco-management to your subordinates. 

[milkweg]

ORIGINAL: wilecki



Not every game from GG has DRM. For instance Paradox games don't (and Gamersgate is Paradox's outlet). They say that DRM and all limitations are requested by producers/developers. What is wrong is that they don't mention DRM sometimes and I agree that they've a lot to improve but I've been happy with them so far (mostly with the prices:). Recently they've even removed the internet activation requirement through their client, but it's still nothing compared to Matrixgames.

The below is from the GamersGate FAQ.

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Can I download the game on my office PC and install it on my home PC which does not have an internet connection?

NO. An internet connection is needed to install the games.
If the target computer got a slow connection we recommend that you download and burn, or store in any other way, the downloads from a computer with high speed connection and move it to the computer with slow speed.
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That means that every game they sell has internet connection required to install so they all have DRM. I bought Paradox's Crusader Kings so know it has DRM. It's no big deal as all Steam games require internet connection to install too so it is no dif for most games. But some GG games have linmited activation and also require activation codes. I bought Anno 1701 Gold and had to have internet connection to install and then on top of that had to enter three different serial numbers. But cponsiodering I got that game for 60% off I can't complain. Sure would be nice if Matrixgames had some 60% off deals. ;

[milkweg]

ORIGINAL: killroyishere

Well even matrixgames requires you to lookup and use that key everytime you add a patch. You'd think once you'd entered that key once that would be enough. But, nope when I download a new patch every single time I go to install it I have to go find that key code to put in. Already did it once why do we have to keep doing it? So, none of them are perfect. At least the Paradox games I get from GG all I have to do is download and install and I don't have to put in any silly key codes before, during or afterwards for patches. Much easier to use.

Psst! Most matrixgames have the serial number stored in the game folder in a simple text file so all you have to do when installing a patch is open the text file and copy and paste the serial number when the patch asks for it. Why it is not encrypted I don't know because it sure makes it easy for a hacker to steal my serial codes and they say they will blacklist any codes that are found to be frequently used. Mind you, it is hard for them to be able to tell that when there is no internet connection between matrixgames and the game itself. Or do some of the games phone home when people play MP in them? That's the only way they could blacklist codes. I don't know as I never play MP in wargames except if they have MP email play.

[milkweg]

To those of you that just bought TC2M and have widescreen monitors then look in the game folder and take a boo at the readme file as it tells you towards the end how to edit a config file to make it use any res you want. I've had TC2M for about a year now and was playing it at 10264x768 on my widescreen LCD because I never read the readme file.

[wilecki]

ORIGINAL: milkweg

ORIGINAL: wilecki



Not every game from GG has DRM. For instance Paradox games don't (and Gamersgate is Paradox's outlet). They say that DRM and all limitations are requested by producers/developers. What is wrong is that they don't mention DRM sometimes and I agree that they've a lot to improve but I've been happy with them so far (mostly with the prices:). Recently they've even removed the internet activation requirement through their client, but it's still nothing compared to Matrixgames.

The below is from the GamersGate FAQ.

--------------

Can I download the game on my office PC and install it on my home PC which does not have an internet connection?

NO. An internet connection is needed to install the games.
If the target computer got a slow connection we recommend that you download and burn, or store in any other way, the downloads from a computer with high speed connection and move it to the computer with slow speed.
---------------

That means that every game they sell has internet connection required to install so they all have DRM.

Of course you need to have internet connection to download those games but that does not mean thay've DRM.

ORIGINAL: milkweg


I bought Paradox's Crusader Kings so know it has DRM.

I happen to own Europa Universalis 3 so after reading your post I downloaded and installed it to check if they've changed their ways recently and it did NOT require any kind of activation or internet connection or anything during startup, so I hold my statement. I was talking only about Gamersgate and only about Paradox's games bought there. Are you sure that you haven't bought Crusader Kings in another store, because then it might have the store's DRM?

ORIGINAL: milkweg

It's no big deal as all Steam games require internet connection to install too so it is no dif for most games. But some GG games have linmited activation and also require activation codes. I bought Anno 1701 Gold and had to have internet connection to install and then on top of that had to enter three different serial numbers. But cponsiodering I got that game for 60% off I can't complain.

Other games from GG may need activation though but you can renew the limit and you only need to send an e-mail to GG and they never make any problems about it, at least I haven't heard of a single case when they did. I'd only wish they'd indicate DRM in a more clear way. You can say a lot about Steam but at least they're always straight about DRM. 3 out of 9 games from GG I own come with serial number only and don't require activation but this is also a pretty poor result. And indeed it sucks what they've made you do with this Anno 1701 install :/ I hope the game was worth it;)

ORIGINAL: milkweg

Sure would be nice if Matrixgames had some 60% off deals. ;

I second that. High prices and rare sales are the reason why I have 9 games from GG and only 4 from Matrixgames.

[Arctic Blast]

I didn't even have to enter a serial key when I installed and ran Crusader Kings the first time. Nothing.

[*Lava*]

ORIGINAL: jackx

Tim/Lava did most (all?) the 3d and sprite work for the AWI mod, too, and in great quality.

Tim did the work... and a great job he did.

Ray (alias Lava)

[jackx]

My apologies - not sure how I wound up confusing the two of you.