One week review - favorite new feature

This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

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One week review - favorite new feature

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I haven't gotten as far as some other players, but I found a few new features to love already. After one week of play, more or less, mine has to be the more realistic....

Ship repair routine - I didn't lose any ships at Pearl vs AI, but many of the BBs were hurt bad. I like how you have to wait a few days for a ship to be available after you give orders for her to be pulled out of the shipyard. No longer can you go instantly from the shipyard into a TF and put out to sea.

Second, would be the patrol zones. Doing all those subs at Manila was fun. [:)]

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Thanks to the design and development team. Great job. [&o]

There are too many good things to say about AE . . . so I'll just stick to my few gripes.

1) The initial "Zero bonus" (also "Oscar bonus") - at least for a few months - is regrettable. The first shock, as Allied pilots encountered the new Japanese machines and tactics, should be returned to the game. [&:]

2) That infernal pop-up of a frozen-in-place info box center-floating over the crucial map events is simply poor design. It bugged me in WitP, and I expected it to be gone with AE. Get the *%$%! info box off to one side (Northeast corner of the screen) so that the box does not cover up the event hex on the map. [:@] Thanks.
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Get the *%$%! info box off to one side (Northeast corner of the screen) so that the box does not cover up the event hex on the map. [:@] Thanks.


That does seem like a good suggestion.
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1. Increased realism in Jap merchant fleet. Though it is making my head hurt, it's a better representation
2. Different Ops commands for land units. Nice!
3. MAP rocks!
4. So does the plane art
5. Realistic Pilot Training. Even though I did plenty of bombing of Chinese hordes to train in WITP, it's better.
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I like the troop loading routine much better...and the land movement routines...much better thought out.


Lastly, there is something about seeing battalion and company-sized units that makes my eyes glaze over. It is so cool but I do wonder how I am going to resuce the poor sods on those tiny islands in the South Pacific.


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First of all, AE is a fantastic improvement of an already larger than life game! Second, my 2 cents on the comment below: Why not make it an option? May be hard to accomplish from a programming standpoint, but you may end up with two opinions here.....
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1) The initial "Zero bonus" (also "Oscar bonus") - at least for a few months - is regrettable. The first shock, as Allied pilots encountered the new Japanese machines and .
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1. Patrol routes
2. Loading/unloading rules along with amphip versus transport fleets
3. Leaky CAP
4. Awesome surface TF routines that will attack all ships now and make unescorted transports cannon fodder
5. Island size differences
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Waypoints. Waypoints & Waypoints.

As great as many of the other new features may be, it's the one thing I could never again do without.
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Tough call but I'll agree and state the ship repair routine.
Many great new features make this game an absolute blast. [&o]
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Late war goodies for the Allies (just one small example, have you guys looked at all the heavy bomber groups that they get in 45-46 [X(])
Air combat system
Waypoints
More realistic logistics.
Aggressive AI
Restricted HQ's that prevent unrealistic withdrawals from places like the Phillippines
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Improved graphical stuff (shore bombardment, air bombing missions)

My only complaint:

Lack of the '42, '43, '44, and '45 full map campaigns, though I completely understand the issues about OOB research and accuracy.
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There's so much, but top 5 so far..

1 - Better AI -and it's expandable too :)
2 - The map - big and beautiful!
3 - Air Combat - all the extra elements involved
4 - Waypoints - and love the 'patrol around' feature!
5 - Repairs - Far better than the old system.

Oh, and one more;

6 - Printed manual - if it ever arrives.. My best chance at ever fully understanding this game!



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I love the game. Huge improvements, too many to list.

Some of my favorite improvements so far (in no particular order):
1. Much improved AI. (I am seeing Jap. subs off the coast of Canada & US sinking cargo ships).
2. Waypoints & patrol zones (probably one the the best improvements).
3. Smaller scale hexes.
4. The improved "global" nature of the game with off map ports and shipping channels
5. Improved repair abilities with shipyards and way of categorizing repair levels and prioritization.

The staggering amount of units, subunits, etc. is daunting (but not necessarily a bad thing).

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ORIGINAL: hjalmar99
1) The initial "Zero bonus" (also "Oscar bonus") - at least for a few months - is regrettable. The first shock, as Allied pilots encountered the new Japanese machines and tactics, should be returned to the game. [&:]

I think he means the "removal" of the "Zero Bonus" ... "is regrettable" [there never was an "Oscar Bonus" at least in WITP stock].


It was one of our goals to "un-hard-code" as many things as possible - and to try to represent historical phenomena by the in game systems.
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In love forever with this incredible game... Imortality is no more a curse !!!
Best new features:
1 - damaged/maintained planes : air wings on cv's are a pure pleasure to manage now (and a mess too after clashes or long operations)
2 - waypoints + patrol zones + preparing TF's : quick and easy now
3 - air combat : details of the dynamic are so nice and issues less predictable
4 - day and night surface combat : slow but extremely immersive
5 - FOW is simply great (Guadal played > 2 months then checked back, uncertainty works good !)
Suggestions :
1 - allow to see ONLY chosen ANIMATIONS (want to choose AIR and NAVAL combat but not BOMBINGS or GROUND for instance : turn ON/OFF butons in option menu)
2 - more KILLS than damaged in sweeping DOGFIGHTS and CAP defending CV's + zero initial bonus (too often 1-3 when dogfighting with 20/25 !)
3 - clicking on the hex numbers in REPORTS to move the map (interactive reports)
4 - capital ships sinkings announced by NEWSPAPER or INTELLIGENCE when the news has reached both countries (random delay)
5 - I trust Andy for future AI improvements and "surprise" scripts ! And mods if modable, in order to ensure imortality (but not our's)...
 
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Three of the features I like are -

Verify load

Waypoints

Naming TFs - even though I mostly forget to do this.[:o]
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Waypoints are great.
New OOB is great.
Improved AI is great , not perfect, but great. And if does some really stupid things now and again, then I just ignore it.
Love the map.
New art is awesome.

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Naming TFs
Sub warfare
Big, fast transports.
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ORIGINAL: mjk428

Waypoints. Waypoints & Waypoints.

As great as many of the other new features may be, it's the one thing I could never again do without.

This feature ROCKS!!! [&o] [&o]

Fleets can now maneuver, conduct sweeping envelopments and other tactical moves, rather than just moving directly to an arbitrary point on a map hoping they don't trip over a nasty on the way!!

Way to go guys!! [:D]
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Too many nice new things to mention. I love "chrome"..
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ORIGINAL: Tazo

In love forever with this incredible game... Imortality is no more a curse !!!

That is the best "game review" that I've read! Great line, Tazo! [8D]
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