Names of the World in Flames

[Mike Dubost]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: warspite1


I don`t know what Nordoff and Hall is/are but I have always understood Pitcairn Islands to be the correct term. Pitcairn is just one of the island group so when talking about the only inhabited island you refer to Pitcairn Island, but the island group is Pitcairn Islands. I think this is right as it is.

They wrote the trilogy, Mutiny on the Bounty, Men Against the Sea, and Pitcairn's Island. I always thought there was just the one island and I thought it was named Pitcairn's Island. But according to Wikipedia: The Pitcairn Islands are officially named the Pitcairn, Henderson, Ducie and Oeno Islands, and are a group of four volcanic islands in the southern Pacific Ocean. The islands are a British overseas territory (formerly a British colony), the last remaining in the Pacific. The names of the islands are Pitcairn, Henderson, Ducie, and Oeno; only Pitcairn, the second largest, is inhabited.

I stand corrected on the WiF name. (insert mental picture of tipping a hat).

I thought there was only 1 island. I did not realize it was a group. You learn something new all the time.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: Mike Dubost

I noticed Pitcairn Islands on the list. Isn't it either Pitcairn's Island or Pitcairn Island?

Yes, I did read Nordoff and Hall.

Pitcairn Islands.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: sajbalk

Patrice: if you would post the maps somewhere, it would be much easier to proof. As it is, I look up names I do not recognize and then go to google or Wiki. If the maps are there, I can check with my maps.

My problem is that I'm limited as to the size of the image I can post.
I will look at what I can do.

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: sajbalk

Patrice: if you would post the maps somewhere, it would be much easier to proof. As it is, I look up names I do not recognize and then go to google or Wiki. If the maps are there, I can check with my maps.

My problem is that I'm limited as to the size of the image I can post.
I will look at what I can do.

The real problem here is the size of the world map. If you look at Patrice's post of the Pitcairn Islands it is 18 hexes wide by 13 hexes high = 234 hexes. There are 70,200 hexes in the MWIF world map => 300 screen shots of comparable size. Even allowing for larger scrren shots and omitting large swaths of ocean, Siberia, and northern North America, it would be difficiult to get this down to under 100 screen shots.

I posted screen shots of the full world map in stages as it was being developed, for review and comment. Some of those are out of date, especially in regards to names, because Patrice went over them all after the map was 'done' adding names for islands and famous landmarks.

That is why I suggested simply going through the list of names.

[paulderynck]

I cannot countenance omitting northern North America. I'll have Nunavut. [:)]

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

I cannot countenance omitting northern North America. I'll have Nunavut. [:)]

Nunavut is like that :

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

I cannot countenance omitting northern North America. I'll have Nunavut. [:)]

Nunavut is like that :

Warspite1

mmmmm....ideal tank country [;)]

[micheljq]

Nunavut administrative region or province or territory (don't remember which) was created in Canada only a couple of years ago if I am not mistaken.

[sajbalk]

Was not Zomba the capital (adminstrative) of Nysaland (now Malawi)? I understand Blantyre is the cultural and economic capital of Malawi today, and likely in 1939 Nysaland as well, but Zomba was the captial ... same hex, even.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zomba,_Malawi

[sajbalk]

For Canada, is it Garry Lake and Pelly Lake? Not Lake Garry and Lake Pelly?

[sajbalk]

You are correct about Nunavut, but the map is correctly set in the pre-Nunavut days.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: sajbalk

Was not Zomba the capital (adminstrative) of Nysaland (now Malawi)? I understand Blantyre is the cultural and economic capital of Malawi today, and likely in 1939 Nysaland as well, but Zomba was the captial ... same hex, even.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zomba,_Malawi

Well, this is right Zomba was the capital city of Nyasaland.

But ADG may have chosen Blantyre as the capital city of Nyasaland in WiF FE because it was the larges city of Nyasaland at the time, and the center of the economic and industrial life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blantyre,_Malawi). It makes me think of the USA, where some State capital are small cities that are not even on the map as cities because they were so small, and other cities that were not the capital are on the map.

Maybe for a country such as Nyasaland, ADG's choice is better. This is how I feel.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: sajbalk

You are correct about Nunavut, but the map is correctly set in the pre-Nunavut days.

Yes, this name don't appear, only "Northwest Territories".

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: sajbalk
For Canada, is it Garry Lake and Pelly Lake? Not Lake Garry and Lake Pelly?

It looks like it is Garry Lake and Lake Pelly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_lake.
Although my 1935 atlas also shows Lake Garry.
The river it is on is called the Backs river, while it is called the Back River on wikipedia.

I'll go with Garry Lake and Lake Pelly and Backs River.

[sajbalk]

Thanks for your quick responses, Patrice. Like you, I enjoy the geopgraphical study of the game, and the maps are wonders to behold.

However, it would make my assistance a lot easier if you could post the finished map for proofing. The most recent posts were from the few map shots posted here. Again, my goal is not to change the map, just to get the right names on the map.

4 days to WiFCon.

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: sajbalk
For Canada, is it Garry Lake and Pelly Lake? Not Lake Garry and Lake Pelly?

It looks like it is Garry Lake and Lake Pelly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_lake.
Although my 1935 atlas also shows Lake Garry.
The river it is on is called the Backs river, while it is called the Back River on wikipedia.

I'll go with Garry Lake and Lake Pelly and Backs River.

I think Back River is actually correct as I believe it was named after George Back who searched in this area for the lost Franklin expedition.

Edit: Additional research reveals he surveyed the area during 1834 after an earlier overland expedition under Franklin. That source says the river was named the Back River in his honor.

[ahlner]

A misspelling: Finnish harbour Hankø should simply be Hanko

[Ta 152]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Ta 152

On the India map, isn't the tributary of the Indus that runs through the Punjab South of Multan the "Sutlej", not "Sutlei" ? My wife's house at her secondary school in New Delhi was "Sutlej", and it's a better transliteration of the Hindi than anything else.

Warspite1

The Royal Indian Navy sloops of the Bittern-class were named after rivers and Sutlej was spelt with a J not an I - so you may be right.

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ORIGINAL: Ta 152

On the India map, isn't the tributary of the Indus that runs through the Punjab South of Multan the "Sutlej", not "Sutlei" ? My wife's house at her secondary school in New Delhi was "Sutlej", and it's a better transliteration of the Hindi than anything else.

Warspite1

The Royal Indian Navy sloops of the Bittern-class were named after rivers and Sutlej was spelt with a J not an I - so you may be right.

I'll check that.

Here's a link to a 1909 map of the Punjab, showing the river in question as "Sutlej" with a "J"

http://dsal.uchicago.edu/maps/gazetteer ... _pg394.jpg

Also a wikipedia entry on the river

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutlej

[Caquineur]

ORIGINAL: Ta 152
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Here's a link to a 1909 map of the Punjab, showing the river in question as "Sutlej" with a "J"

http://dsal.uchicago.edu/maps/gazetteer ... _pg394.jpg

Also a wikipedia entry on the river

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutlej

Hello Paul, it's been corrected (by Patrice)

Alain

[sajbalk]

How about the Australian mountain:

Mt Kosciusko

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kosciusko

No "Z" until 1997.

Per list: Mt. Kosciuszko