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RE: Advice on altitudes for CV strike groups

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Lastly, the Blenheim V comes on stream too late - currently Dec 42. 113 had already re-equipped with Vs by October 42. Given that the Mk V was available in squadron strength by June 42, I would suggest a start date in this game of say July or August 42, since it will take a little time to get enough replacements to convert a squadron.

Hmm, I have 113 Sqn receiving Mk V's from October and phasing the Mk IV's out by end December (from Jefford)

I accept that is quite probably correct - the two types were certainly operating side by side in 113 since there are photos of the two types together. But if Mk V production only starts in December, and is only at 8, you won't have enough Mk Vs to reequip 113 until mid Jan at the earliest. (Unless I am missing something?) Given that the game mechanisms don't allow mixed fleets within a sqn, that by June 42 the Air Ministry had already realised that the Mk V was not up to use in NW Europe and should be focused on the Med and the Far East, and that the aircraft is hardly a world beater anyway, I would tend to favour erring towards the earlier end of the availability window. Hardly a major issue I warrant.

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Ya, hurricane XIIb (Can) and Hudson I (Aus) have wrong climb rates, like 10k more then they should

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On some of the late war a/c production/replacement rates like C46D, Helldiver, etc, should they be that high? I don't think the C46 was ever produced in those numbers.

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In GC2 I can see many squadrons are due to upgrade to A29's but there are no A29 squadrons on map and no replacements are due I believe?

Speedster, would you mind pointing me in the direction of these units?
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Sure thing. Let me go in and post for you ASAP........
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RE: Advice on altitudes for CV strike groups

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Couple of oddities via the editor.

1) Quite a few of the FAA sqns have, in their upgrade slot, Upgrade-1, which seems to be the default for a blank slot. Now since most of the sqns concerned seem to be on late-war models, suspect they should not upgrade, so presume that not being set on a self-reference (eg Corsair IV upgrade path set to Corsair IV) does not matter?

(EDIT: eg units 1868, 1903-6, 1913-14, 1918, 1929-30)

2) Swordfish I is only in production for one month (2/42 to 3/42) with a rate of just 3. And Swordfish II start and end dates are identical (10/43) with no build rate. So does this mean in effect a grand total of Swordfish replacements in the whole campaign?

Personally I would have all the carriers (except Hermes) toting Swordfish II (and in production at a low rate), since ASV was pretty much available for all the Fleet carriers by Dec 41, with Swordfish I for 4 AACU as a light bomber rather than torpedo. Perhaps Hermes should get Swordfish II but with the radar edited out on the unit page.

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In Scenario 1, VMF-111 & VMF-121 start out with the F4F; however, they upgrade to the F2A. Is this correct?
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Hi chaps I have to point out that the swordfish II was in use with 829 squadron in March 1942 aboard Illustrious

this is the squadron that had ASV radar so its worth getting right

I suspect there is a typo with the entry date of Swordfish II in the editor

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Should the F7F be "carrier capable" when in reality, they did not pass carrier qualification trials until 1947?
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Scenario 1 Illustrious starts in 1942 with FAA squadron 1840 equipped with corsair II's - sounds like fun !
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1790 squadron FAA arrives on HMS Vindex with Firefly I's. Should possibly be the nightfighter variant instead?
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Should the F7F be "carrier capable" when in reality, they did not pass carrier qualification trials until 1947?

They might have tried harder and sooner if they knew the war was continuing... [;)]

Or perhaps it needs penalties like the US Marine Sqns get when flying from carriers - sure they're capable, but it's not what they normally do.
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I asked the question already in the "AE Map, Base, Economic Issues" section, but they sent me here. So please have a look at the following:

Playing the Coral Sea Scenario.

I have air-moved 110 supply points with the PBY-5 Catalina from Noumea to Ndeni.
I also moved the AV to Ndeni in order to give aviation support.
Finally I moved the Catalina Squadron there as well.

Now after 4 Turns of Naval Search / Recon operations, I still have the full 110 supply points at the base.

That seems to be wrong as I thought that aircraft use supply points for operations.

Is this a bug, or do I miss something?

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I just noticed something odd. When I click on any 2 Air Division unit except for the 1st, 2nd or 3rd Hikotai IMAF, I get all of the 2 Air Division units except for those 3:



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But, if I look at 1st, 2nd or 3rd Hikotai IMAF and then click to look at all of the 2 Air Division units, I get this:



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Weird, isn't it?
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Possible reason is, that all 2.AirDiv Units are only temporarly restricted except these three Fighter Units which are permenatly Restricted
 
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Yes, and those 3 are assigned to HQ #40, 2nd Air Army - which is permanently restricted, while the others are part of HQ #3026, 2nd Air Div - which isnt.
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Odd one. Go to 5 RAF Squadron in Madras. Select transfer to base, select base on map and then use the mouse wheel! Voila you get this. Odd though since it doesn't replicate in other squadrons I tried..........

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RE: Advice on altitudes for CV strike groups

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1) Quite a few of the FAA sqns have, in their upgrade slot, Upgrade-1, which seems to be the default for a blank slot. Now since most of the sqns concerned seem to be on late-war models, suspect they should not upgrade, so presume that not being set on a self-reference (eg Corsair IV upgrade path set to Corsair IV) does not matter?

"Self-reference" is a just a tool to ensure that if an aircraft default upgrade changes, it won't automatically bleed into the air group upgrades.
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In Scenario 1, VMF-111 & VMF-121 start out with the F4F; however, they upgrade to the F2A. Is this correct?

Historically they were stripped of their F4F-3's, which were then given to the Navy, and received F2's instead.
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Should the F7F be "carrier capable" when in reality, they did not pass carrier qualification trials until 1947?

According to the Squadron-Signal treatment this is a "myth". Either way it's already been stated that Carrier Capability is driven more by usage than potential, so I guess you'd be right as far the the -N & 3P are concerned at least.

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Scenario 1 Illustrious starts in 1942 with FAA squadron 1840 equipped with corsair II's - sounds like fun !

Presume you mean 1830 Sqn? If so, it's delay is set to 431215 and it shouldn't appear till then. 1840 Sqns location is the HMS Speaker with Hellcats.
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1790 squadron FAA arrives on HMS Vindex with Firefly I's. Should possibly be the nightfighter variant instead?

'Pose. FAA belongs to navy team really [;)]
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I just noticed something odd. When I click on any 2 Air Division unit except for the 1st, 2nd or 3rd Hikotai IMAF, I get all of the 2 Air Division units except for those 3:

We figured the Imperial Manchurian Air Force wouldn't deploy to the South Pacific or similar (it didn't).

Regarding the Fairey Swordfish, there seems to be some disagreement in my references whether the intial delivery date of the Mk II was early '41 or '43. If one has any material that might shed light on the matter, please do, but please also state the reference.

I don't know whether Michael monitors this tread regularly, so if something smells like a code bug rather than an OOB bug, I'd advice you post in to the Tech thread.
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