1792 No frills PBEM

[Kingmaker]

HiHi

B2 I have in no way taken the Role play discourse as a personal assault, it's role play thats all ... ... I'm just better at it than you [:'(] , ... and Modest as well [:D]

All the Best
Peter

[montesaurus]

Timurlain has posted his turn! WHoo hoo! [:D]

[Mus]

Who are we waiting on?

[and2]

Russia mailed his t17, Ill need t18, before I can combine

[IronWarrior]

Ah geez sorry guys I sent the wrong file... T18 sent in.

[Mus]

I don't see Barbarossa's French turn in the box.

[and2]

Turn 19 mailed enjoy

B2 and others sometimes mail their turn directly to me

[Mus]

Austria is in.

Poland getting devoured by almost every country now.

[montesaurus]

Turkish turn 19 is complete!

[Anthropoid]

I cannot imagine how some of you guys are keeping straight which nation YOU are playing in all these different PBEMs, let alone who the other guys are playing! [:D] I'm playing Russia in a mere two matches, and I have trouble keeping them straight . . .

[barbarossa2]

Hey, I am just curious what kind of an order Kingmaker used to so effectively conduct a port raid on Marseille? If it had been that easy to destroy the French fleet in port, I am sure they would have done it historically as well. I have no problem with Kingmaker doing it since we are playing "vanilla"--and part of the purpose of this is to discover issues with the engine and report them.

(anyway...nice move King...mind sharing what you did with us?)

[barbarossa2]

By the way, French turn in.

[Kingmaker]

HiHi

For starters English ships have a higher Moral factor than french and the composition of the fleet did include 9 1st rates, with Nelson + a 'Quality Admiral'

Counting the dots there were 54 french ships in Marseillies before the attack, there are now 37, Hoods fleet went in 30 strong (all fully fit at 10) and came out with 20 many of them now needing repair.

Some of the french ships in Marseilles were already damaged from their Training exersice v the Danish fleet, so on balance B2 with the guns of the Port adding to french fire power maybe you should just be greatfull that the battle didn't take place at sea!

I think somehow that, historically, questions may well have been asked by their Lordships of the Admiralty re the High loss ratio.

All the Best
Peter

[Mus]

Marseilles has a low level of guns and the English have a big quality and leadership edge and in this case obviously got the wind gauge. If they had not they would have probably barely won or lost because of the extra port gun damage, so port raiding remains fairly risky. I do not often engage in port raiding for the reason that the defender has a pretty hefty advantage in the port guns and if you lose the windgauge in a port raid you can get double screwed.

As an example of how important the wind gauge is I recently barely won a battle against Kingmakers Spaniards in a fairly even battle numbers wise with Nelson in charge and a similarly lopsided quality advantage on my part as GB, because I am fairly certain Spain won the windgauge which is a random roll at the beginning of a combat.

The windgauge is a really powerful advantage.

[Mus]

BTW since Timurlain isn't showing up to vote and the voting is very close anyways, why don't we just decide NOT to adopt a house rule against insurrection?

[montesaurus]

That sounds good with me Mus. Lets just play the game as designed. Personally I have better things for my diplomats to do, and don't plan on being the first to cause a bunch of insurrections!
Though it might be fun to see what havoc would occur in Hanover if I did it!(just kidding kingmaker!)[:)]

[Kingmaker]

HiHi

Sheee Monte I wish you hadn't said that you'll give folk ideas [:)] , that said like you I have better things to do with Diplos at the moment and with a 70 Legal Diplo on Expel ... well, luck of the dice will decide there

All the Best
Peter

[montesaurus]

Hey Kingmaker! When you were discussing how you beat Barbararossa I noticed you mentioned "a higher Moral factor"(see below quotes) than the French! Is that a judgement concerning Anglo/French relations or did you mean "Morale"! [:D]
 
"For starters English ships have a higher Moral factor than french and the composition of the fleet did include 9 1st rates, with Nelson + a 'Quality Admiral' "

[Kingmaker]

HiHi

Well given that the English certainly come out tops in Morals coz we play Cricket, wash behind our ears & don't eat snails then I suppose it's fair to say both [:)]

But, yer quite right Monte I did mean Morale you may well be able to see both fleets, it's the Blue bar that indicates Englands [&o] superiority.

All the Best
Peter

[Mus]

Moral works actually. Morale is actually listed under the definition of Moral as a noun and they are etymologically related.

[:D]