Req. patrol planes attack report for patch

[CV Zuikaku]

Hi!
Now, this is becoming annoying... when we have patrol planes hitting our ships and we don't even get reports about that. Is this going to be addressed in the patch? It is very time consuming to check every TF in combat zones to se if there are any ships damaged? This reports were there in WITP- why aren't they in AE? [:@]

[moose1999]

You get on-screen messages about recon attacks during turn execution - they will also tell you if a ship got hit.
And bombingg icon (red, if your playing allies) will appear above the TF being bombed.
But depending on your messages settings they can flash by pretty fast...

[CV Zuikaku]

Well, I saw reports about enemy ships being attacked and hit by recon/patrol planes, but heve never seen message about my ship being hit- neither during turn execution or OP reports...

[TheTomDude]

I'm with Zuikaku here. For every combat there should be a combat report. It doesn't matter if a bomber or torpedo or patrol plane attacks a target.

[CV Zuikaku]

Maybe it's a FOW thing- but it is not logical to have FOW for your own ships... I'll try later tonight with FOW turned off- maybe then I'll get report when some of my merchies is hit by patrol plane... But I'm losing too much ships because I don't even know they are being hit - and that is annoying!

[Puhis]

I don't get any messages of ships been hit. All I get is this:

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OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR Aug 20, 42

TF 49 can not completely unload troops at Buka
an Allied CA is reported HIT
TF 11 shadowed by Allied Aircraft at 114,133 near Rekata Bay
TF 50 snooped by Allied Aircraft at 112,129 near Shortlands
APD-2 has spotted an Allied Carrier Aircraft at 112,129
TF 38 sights Allied Recon at 114,133 near Rekata Bay
SS I-174 under attack by an Allied Float Plane at 114,137
SS I-9 detected by Allied Fighter Bomber at 116,135 near Auki
TF 6 sighted by Allied Patrol at 109,128 near Buka
TF 12 detects Allied Aircraft at 109,131 near Shortlands
TF 43 snooped by Allied Float Plane at 102,128 near Arawe
TF 49 observes Allied Recon at 109,128 near Buka
CL Tatsuta has spotted an Allied Float Plane at 102,128
TF 48 sighted by Allied Aircraft at 107,130 near Torokina
TF 4 detects Allied Patrol at 99,118 near Wewak
LT Hoashi, T. of EI-1 Daitai bails out but is RESCUED
LT Subota, Y. of EII-3 Daitai bails out but is RESCUED
LT Ichihara, T. of EI-3 Daitai bails out with WOUNDS but is RESCUED
PO2 Ichimura C. of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
LT Kobayashi, M. of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO1 Sugiyama U. of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Kurakane K. of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
CPO Nagahama H. of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Kamihira, K. of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Kamihira, K. of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Kanno E. of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Shirakawa, T. of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Shirakawa, T. of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3
CPO Sugino, K. of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
CPO Okabe, K. of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Hamano R. of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO1 Ohara E. of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Hamano R. of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Koizumi S. of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
CPO Okabe, K. of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3
CPO Okabe, K. of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 4
A6M2 Zero from EI-1 Daitai is written off
Damaged A6M2 Zero from EI-1 Daitai is missing, pilot reported killed
A6M2 Zero from EI-1 Daitai is written off
A6M2 Zero from EI-1 Daitai is written off
A6M2 Zero from EI-1 Daitai is written off
A6M2 Zero from EII-1 Daitai is written off
B5N1 Kate from EII-3 Daitai is damaged on landing
PO1 Fujiwara T. of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 2
TF 3 shadowed by Allied Aircraft at 109,131 near Shortlands
SS I-174 under attack by a Allied Float Plane at 114,137
APD-35 has spotted an SBD-3 Dauntless at 112,129
TF 5 detects Allied Patrol at 104,128 near Gasmata
TF 12 shadowed by Allied Recon at 109,131 near Shortlands
Damaged A6M2 Zero from Tainan Ku S-1 crashes
Newcastle expands airfield to size 3
Ichihara, T. now available for reassignment
DD Hayashio arrives at Truk
AO Sata arrives at Truk
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And next turn APD-2 is badly damaged. So far I've lost 3 ships like that, and 2 more are badly damaged.

I want to know what hit my ships and when!

[CV Zuikaku]

So it doesn't matter if FOW is ON or OFF? [:(]
And it really isn't important that much what hit the ship (FOW is OK) but that we know that ship is hit and in trouble!

[fbs]

I got the same thing - a ship was sunk and it listed nowhere in combat reports, so I reported it as a bug.

And I got another thread going saying that fogging effects on your own units is completely silly, makes the combat reports unreliable and close to useless, and adds a manual and boring step to playing the game (which is to check your units under combat to see if the combat reports have any resemblance to reality).

Plus this one - at least 3 threads talking about the problems of fogging combat results for your own ships when playing against the AI. This "feature" is incredibly frustrating to me -- I don't want to remove FOW completely, but I can't withstand commanders reporting that their ships were sunk when they weren't.

Some "features" are really troubling when people start to report them as bugs.

Cheers [:D]
fbs

[wpurdom]

If you're serious about going around and checking individual TF for damage, it's better to keep track of your damaged ship by using the all ships list and sorting by the damage column - particularly flotation.

If it was a rhetorical complaint, please excuse.

[CV Zuikaku]

ORIGINAL: wpurdom

If you're serious about going around and checking individual TF for damage, it's better to keep track of your damaged ship by using the all ships list and sorting by the damage column - particularly flotation.

If it was a rhetorical complaint, please excuse.

That is OK when you have less than 20 ships damaged [;)]

[erstad]

Me too [:D]

After my first (real) turn, I had three ships mystery-damaged in Saigon. I'm sure it was patrols, but it would be nice to know that.