Game Rating for AE

[gunnergoz]

Game reviewers will only be happy when you can play AE on a Wii. [8|]

Me- I'm waiting for the movie to come out.  [:D]

[Templer_12]

Hi Erik,

what did that guy expect? A specialized mod where Nimitz served breakfast in bed.

I read the "AE Team" thread. These guys are crazy. Dedication, love or what ever- unbelievable what this team has to be taken.
I praise genius and hard work and dedication and I've found it.
The highest respekt from my side. There isn´t to much I respekt.

Wanna now were I stick my thumb to that reviewer? Ah.... I don´t think so.

[Templer_12]

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta

ORIGINAL: LarryP
Like I said originally, reviewers will not do this game justice. [:@]

As a reviewer, I beg to differ [;)]

My magazine's policy is that each game must be evaluated first in its own genre's context; then the reviewer can proceed to see if the qualities of the game could make it interesting to people not normally interested in that specific genre (for wargames, "Panzer General" is still the perfect example of the latter).

Of course, a review of the AE will require some time. But, from what I'm enjoying and experiencing, I really don't see how this game could get a low mark - with the caveat that the buyer must fully understand what he is getting into. [8D]

BTW, there is an Italian site, www.netwargamingitalia.net, which I feel being among the best ones in giving fair and balanced reviews to wargames and historical strategy games. Unluckily it is only in Italian, but, still, the horizon is not so bleak, if one knows where to look.

Ciao Vincenzo Beretta

I took a quick look on the side. (there is a little fault in your link - no (,) behind (net)!)

We look forward to your english translation of the review to WitP: AE. [:D]

I have read the last part of the review to Forge of Freedom. I think Forge of Freedom comes off too badly. Well, in my opinion.

Forza Italia

[Big B]

I care very little about game reviewers, but I am intrigued - has WitP/AE actually been rated? What are the comments?

[Templer_12]

ORIGINAL: gunnergoz

Game reviewers will only be happy when you can play AE on a Wii. [8|]

Me- I'm waiting for the movie to come out.  [:D]

Hi gunnergoz,

right.
You don´t have to care for more then two sticks and four buttons. [:D]

[sfbaytf]

While I generally like IGN, I agree with OP who says you can't depend on them for a serious simulation like AE.

IGN and others gave Empire Total War stellar ratings. While I enjoy Empire Total War after initial release and 2 patches it still can't properly execute amphibious invasions.

[LarryP]

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta

ORIGINAL: LarryP
Like I said originally, reviewers will not do this game justice. [:@]

As a reviewer, I beg to differ [;)]

Well as a reader of reviewers, I beg to differ.

[Erik Rutins]

For those who may not have followed the link to IGN, it's not an official review. It's a review submitted by a "reader" - in other words it's no more "official" a review than any of the comments here.

With that said, let's get back to the original discussion, I'd really rather not give a "grudge" review any more airtime.

[LarryP]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

For those who may not have followed the link to IGN, it's not an official review. It's a review submitted by a "reader" - in other words it's no more "official" a review than any of the comments here.

It's a good thing too because the grudge is definitely strong. Although I still believe that this type of game seldom if ever gets a fair evaluation. Unless done by a war game site.

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

Thank you, Templer. I fixed the link in the post. [:)]

IMHO, it is still not possible to "rate" the AE: a game of this magnitude requires time both to play it with sufficient depth and to see how the developing team will evolve it via the coming patches.

However, one can give "general impressions" based both on his early gaming experience, a comparison with the original WitP (so to see how much the game was improved, and where), and the commitment shown both by the team and the fan (scenario/mod designers) on the forum. These "early impressions" are, of course very good (alas for my pet-peeve: the fixed resolution...)

What I'm actually doing, just now, is to replay "Coral Sea" in WitP against an human opponent, so to regain familiarity with WitP and be better prepared to do a comparison with the same scenario in the AE. But a parallel game I'm running at "Coral Sea: AE" vs. the AI already shows how much we are above and beyond the original.

[Erik Rutins]

Vincenzo,

Just FYI, Coral Sea is actually so short that in AE terms, there's not much the "AI" can do. To truly evaluate the AI, you really need the Grand Campaign.

Regards,

- Erik

[Templer_12]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

For those who may not have followed the link to IGN, it's not an official review. It's a review submitted by a "reader" - in other words it's no more "official" a review than any of the comments here.

With that said, let's get back to the original discussion, I'd really rather not give a "grudge" review any more airtime.

Yup Erik,
I agree.

I noticed the "reviewer" is an amateur and the "review" isn´t an official statement.

But see, by my self.
I know WitP for a while.
Interested in strategy I´ve read some good and some not so good reviews.
I know reviews often are colored by personal taste and the weighting of the various categories.
So I never respected review and opinions by fans - fans are fans, and usually not objective.

So when opinions and/or reviews are so bad and they be published, I think twice about it, should I spend my money. Also WitP isn´t cheap!

These "not so good" opinions/review, no interest in the pacific theater and the purchase price were the reasons I never purchased WitP.
I´m sure that even others potential buyers are being influenced in such a way.

Did something good - I saved some money. [;)]

Don´t wonder if the friends, but also, as the reviewer writes: One final warning: do not make the same mistake I did and base your purchase decision on the traffic matrix in the forums. Half the posters on the thread are from the development team, and the rest are Adamant apologists like me who have waited years for this disappointment, but have yet to accept the truth. "
fall in this thread like a swarm of kamikaze zeros.

Personally, I have just problems with some impertinent Japanese in front of the Guadalkanal scenario by the Saloman Islands (They won´t leave)- So I´m just kicking a "reviewers" ...

[Templer_12]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Vincenzo,

Just FYI, Coral Sea is actually so short that in AE terms, there's not much the "AI" can do. To truly evaluate the AI, you really need the Grand Campaign.

Regards,

- Erik

Ah Erik, when Vincenzo writes his review after he finised the Grand Campaign, we will find his review after the USA join the European Union. [:D]

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Vincenzo,

Just FYI, Coral Sea is actually so short that in AE terms, there's not much the "AI" can do. To truly evaluate the AI, you really need the Grand Campaign.

Regards,

- Erik

Erik,

of course you are right, but the shortness of "Coral Sea" was quite useful to start evaluating other parts of the game, like the effect of the new map scale, the changes in the UI, the new combat models etc. I plan to move "up" to Aleutinians, then Guadalcanal, and, finally, the GC. This way I'll be also able to check the first patches and how the community is gearing up re: third party mods.

Anyway, my totally unofficial first impressions are very, very good. You already know that - along with my two personal pet-peeves [:)] (lack of short scenarios and the fixed resolution).