AE Land and AI Issues [OUTDATED]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Do you have a save with it running through a minefield

I've been checking and no, I don't. I save one game-week of save games and cycle through them. Luckily the code now saves all the combat reports so I have those. The most recent example is:

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TF 162 encounters mine field at Merak (48,97)

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Akigumo
CVL Shoho, Mine hits 2, heavy damage
CL Nagara, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sanae, Mine hits 1, heavy damage



4 mines cleared


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There are quite a few others. I can find them if you want them, but I realize a save must be what you really need.

BTW, in this case it was a CVL that cruised into an enemy base, but in almost all the previous cases it was one or more full sized carriers. Basically the big KB was sailing into my base.

[bsq]

Unit 10028 - 26 Indian Bde has PIATs in 1942 - oops - they weren't available till mid 43...

[rjopel]

The 1st Ussurii Tank Bde (Scen 1 unit#6908) has a rename to the 204th Tanks Bde but no date is given for the name change.

[rjopel]

Scen 1:
147th/155th PVO is duplicated with no withdrawal and returns for either unit. UnitNumbers 7185 and 7225.

[Jo van der Pluym]

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

Hi

1. The KNIL Mariener Brigade must be Mariniers Brigade and is not a KNIL unit.

2. The 1st KNIL (T) Brigade must be T Brigade and is also not a KNIL unit. It's raised in the Netherland from Dutch Volunteers.

3. I miss Korps Insuline a Dutch para-trained commando unit raised from volunteers from the Princess Irene brigade in 1942 on Ceylon,

4. The only new raised KNIL units in war where the 1st KNIL Battaljon in Australia and after liberation of some parts of DEI /Prison Camps (Tarakan) the 2nd KNIL Battaljon and 3rd KNIL Battaljon and how more parts are liberated how more KNIL battaljons.

5. From spring 1946 arrives more Dutch units in the DEI from the Netherlands

Here some dates and locations

Korps Insuline Raised 16 May 1942 as NSO renamed 01-08-1942 in Korps Insuline in Laksapatiya Colombo
In 1945 the strength is increased from about 1 company to more then 2 companies

KNIL I - Raised 01-06-1944 "Victoria Camp" Australia - 04-10-1945 Batavia
KNIL II - Raised 08-1945 Balikpapan - 16-10-1945 Batavia
KNIL III
KNIL IV - Raised 09-1945 Singapore - 08-10-1945 Batavia
KNIL V - Raised 02-11-1945 Tjihapitkamp""
KNIL VI - Raised 15-04-1946 Medan


T-Brigade 15-01-1946 Malacca - 09-03-1946 Semarang
V-Brigade 27-01-1946 Malacca - 29-03-1946 Batavia
W-Brigade 15-02-1946 Malacca - 30-03-1946 Batavia
X-Briagde 23-02-1946 Malacca - 29-03-1946 Soerabaja
U-Brigade 01-03-1946 Batavia
Y-Brigade 20-07-1946 Bali (X, XI, XII KNIL)
Z-Brigade 21-11-1946 Medan

DST Raised from Korps Insuline and Dutch No 2 Troop 10 Inter Allied Commando on 15 june 1946

[Barb]

Q1: Why is 2nd Area Army HQ with subordinated 2nd Army HQ attached to Southern (Expeditionary) Army? Shouldnt they be at Manchuria for the whole war?
Q2: Why did you used Western, Eastern, Northern Army as HQ? Too few General Armies and too many Area Armies?

[Andy Mac]

Guys I had to draw the line some stuff made it for patch 1 some stuff didnt I will revisit for patch 2 so FROM This post I am gathering data for PATCH 2 on the list for pathc 2 at present
 
1. Spelling Ghurka right
2. Hopefully some town moves for Aussie forces
3. Possibly Jo's dutch stuff but I need to dig out some evidence before I go to the effort of amending 91 AI scripts for a couple of Bns
4. Another look at tiger force
 
None of this stuff falls into the worth holding upt he patch for camp so I am going with what I have.

[Blackhorse]

Q2: Why did you used Western, Eastern, Northern Army as HQ? Too few General Armies and too many Area Armies?

Many of the Area Commands morphed into combat commands (or would have, in the event of an invasion). They really have to be handled on a case-by-case basis.

In Australia, for example, the Southern Command became the I Corps, and the Eastern Command became the II Corps in April of 1942 -- both Corps eventually commanded Australian troops overseas. The Western Command became the III Corps, responsible for the defense of Western Australia, and never deployed.

[EasilyConfused]

I accidentally posted this in the Naval OOB forum originally.  I apologize if this has already been noted:

I've been noticing more invalid date entries in the database.  The convoy disbandings are often given as the 31st of months that only have 30 days.  If you want I can list them, but I don't know if they would disband anyway.

[Andy Mac]

It falls into the annoying camp they disband after 3 days anyway so the ones with disband dates are a carryover from a precvious system - we will adjust for patch 2

[Barb]

ORIGINAL: Blackhorse

Q2: Why did you used Western, Eastern, Northern Army as HQ? Too few General Armies and too many Area Armies?

Many of the Area Commands morphed into combat commands (or would have, in the event of an invasion). They really have to be handled on a case-by-case basis.

In Australia, for example, the Southern Command became the I Corps, and the Eastern Command became the II Corps in April of 1942 -- both Corps eventually commanded Australian troops overseas. The Western Command became the III Corps, responsible for the defense of Western Australia, and never deployed.

Actually I was asking about Japanese General Defence commands

[Jzanes]

ORIGINAL: Jzanes

ORIGINAL: Jzanes

Jan. 17th, 1942 Allied player vs. japanese AI. I decided to concentrate my forces at Manila on Luzon. The AI pushed my forces out of Clark Field and they retreated to Bataan. The AI then moved it's army on to invest Manila. The problem is that it didn't move any forces to besiege or take Bataan and it didn't leave any forces at Clark. I moved a unit into Clark from Bataan and took back the now empty base.

Update on this issue.

Now up to Jan. 23. The AI still has made no move to retake Clark. The troops that had been trapped in Bataan (11 units with 260 AV) have moved to Manila. A tank battalion is ravaging the AIs rear areas having taken the empty bases of Cabanatuan and Bayombong.

A further update on this issue. It is now March 6, 1942. The AI moved about 3 engineer units and 5 artillery units into Clark around Feb. 1. They eventually pushed my tank battalion to Bataan and recaptured Clark. They then moved on to reinforce the seige of Manila. I promptly moved back in and retook Clark. Around 2/25 they moved into Clark with 3 infantry units. This time they moved into and captured Bataan after retaking Clark. I still have one tank battalion bouncing around North Luzon but it's pretty ineffectual. Everyone else is bottled up at Manila.

I am ignorant as to how the AI works, but I would suggest setting it to capture Bataan or at least to guard Clark after taking it the first time.

[rjopel]

SCEN 1:

UnitNumbers 7452 and 7454 are both named 1917th AA Rgt and both arrive on the same day.

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: Barb

Q1: Why is 2nd Area Army HQ with subordinated 2nd Army HQ attached to Southern (Expeditionary) Army? Shouldnt they be at Manchuria for the whole war?

2nd Area Army was formed in Manchuria but relocated to command the IJA forces in the Moluccas and (later) the western half of New Guinea (the 'North of Australia Area'). It (historically not correct) starts (in the game) at Tokyo to make things easier (it never did anything in Manchuria before it was transferred). 2nd Army was formed under 1st Area Army in Manchuria but later transferred to 2nd Area Army and based at Celebes.

ORIGINAL: Barb

Q2: Why did you used Western, Eastern, Northern Army as HQ? Too few General Armies and too many Area Armies?

I don't understand this question.

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: rjopel

SCEN 1:

UnitNumbers 7452 and 7454 are both named 1917th AA Rgt and both arrive on the same day.

OOB error

[rjopel]

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: rjopel

SCEN 1:

UnitNumbers 7452 and 7454 are both named 1917th AA Rgt and both arrive on the same day.

OOB error

I agree but is it a duplicated number for two different AA Rgts or is it one AA Rgt list twice?

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: rjopel

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: rjopel

SCEN 1:

UnitNumbers 7452 and 7454 are both named 1917th AA Rgt and both arrive on the same day.

OOB error

I agree but is it a duplicated number for two different AA Rgts or is it one AA Rgt list twice?

Will have to look at this (that is, consult my notes), probably one AA Rgt listed twice.

[rjopel]

Scen 1:

UnitNumber 6280 Rename delay date is listed as 43101. I assume it's either 430101 or 431001.

[Barb]

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: Barb
Q1: Why is 2nd Area Army HQ with subordinated 2nd Army HQ attached to Southern (Expeditionary) Army? Shouldnt they be at Manchuria for the whole war?

2nd Area Army was formed in Manchuria but relocated to command the IJA forces in the Moluccas and (later) the western half of New Guinea (the 'North of Australia Area'). It (historically not correct) starts (in the game) at Tokyo to make things easier (it never did anything in Manchuria before it was transferred). 2nd Army was formed under 1st Area Army in Manchuria but later transferred to 2nd Area Army and based at Celebes.

thanks - i had some conflicting informations.

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: Barb
Q2: Why did you used Western, Eastern, Northern Army as HQ? Too few General Armies and too many Area Armies?

I don't understand this question.

There were two command structures in Japan towards the end of war:
1. General Defence Army - Eastern/Western/Northern/Central Army as home guards, militia, ...
2. 2 General Armies - 6 Area Armies as "normal armies"

Why was home guard preferred as command structure over "regular" one?

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: Barb

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: Barb
Q1: Why is 2nd Area Army HQ with subordinated 2nd Army HQ attached to Southern (Expeditionary) Army? Shouldnt they be at Manchuria for the whole war?

2nd Area Army was formed in Manchuria but relocated to command the IJA forces in the Moluccas and (later) the western half of New Guinea (the 'North of Australia Area'). It (historically not correct) starts (in the game) at Tokyo to make things easier (it never did anything in Manchuria before it was transferred). 2nd Army was formed under 1st Area Army in Manchuria but later transferred to 2nd Area Army and based at Celebes.

thanks - i had some conflicting informations.

2nd Area Army was the most troublesome IJA command organisation for me when doing the AE OOB. Not much information available because it had been disbanded before the end of the war and because General Anami, its long-time commander was not questioned after the war by US interrogators (because he had committed suicide by seppuku).

ORIGINAL: Barb

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

ORIGINAL: Barb
Q2: Why did you used Western, Eastern, Northern Army as HQ? Too few General Armies and too many Area Armies?

I don't understand this question.

There were two command structures in Japan towards the end of war:
1. General Defence Army - Eastern/Western/Northern/Central Army as home guards, militia, ...
2. 2 General Armies - 6 Area Armies as "normal armies"

Why was home guard preferred as command structure over "regular" one?

Eastern/Western/Northern/Central Armies are renamed Area Armies later in the war (you can see this by looking into the editor; same with Korea and Formosa Armies). Btw., then Armies under GDA were always 'regular' (even if largely administrative) commands. Japan did not have a home guard or militia until 1945 (when the mobilisation of the whole adult population started).

The General Armies are not in the game because (a) they were raised quite late (in April 1945) and (b) this would have lead to problems because (c) most units subordinate to them were formed earlier and (d) we had to permanently assign HQ's under GDA to GDA to prevent misuse (in short: this would have screwed up the whole political point system).

Effectively, there is no real use for the General Armies in the game. Nevertheless, I considered to add them and the Air General Army (and left editor slots #9, #15 and #38 empty) for the sake of history. But GDA, being the 'root' command for the Home Islands, fulfills the function that 1st and 2nd General Armies fulfilled in real life.