AH Scenario more French

[akdreemer]

I will be developing several scenarios. All will us Scenario 2 as a base. One will be based on greater French participation, especially French warships. I am also looking at redoing the database naval weapons based on gun/mount/FC. For instance, the twin 5"/38 slower than two single mounts. Thus there will be quad 40mm, twin 40mm, single 40mm, etc. The 5"/38 became extremely effective when the VT fuse shell was introduced.

[bstarr]

I had a ball when I made my 'vichy included' scenario way back when. I've switched computers since then, but I'll see if I have any of my old information; if I find anything I'll send it to you. The best source (I wish I had it when I did my scenario) will be the new Command at Sea (WWII era Harpoon rules) Module. I forget its name, but its availible at Clash of Arms (that's www.clashofarms.com ). Like most grognard counter games now days, it costs an arm and a leg, but, believe me, it's worth it.

[Shark7]

I've actually considered including the Vichy forces as extremely restricted commands. It would be a deterrent to running Chinese forces into Vietnam though. As far as the Vichy ships in SE Asia...they were interned and eventually disarmed by the Japanese, so its hard to justify adding them.

[bstarr]

ORIGINAL: Shark7
As far as the Vichy ships in SE Asia...they were interned and eventually disarmed by the Japanese, so its hard to justify adding them.

[:@] (screams and pulls hair)[:@]
This is why I went underground with my last Vichy Mod. No matter how many times I posted a disclaimer saying that the idea was simply to add interresting ships to the Jap arsenal, every time I posted something about the mod some psuedo-historian (or worse yet El Cid Again) would pop in and give me a long lecture on why this couldn't happen. AAAAAAA!

ps. Not that I'm calling you a pseudo-historian - hell, I like you - you just had the poor luck to fall into the mess from a long time ago. Sort of like stepping on a landmine from a bygone war. [;)]

[Historiker]

This is why I went underground with my last Vichy Mod. No matter how many times I posted a disclaimer saying that the idea was simply to add interresting ships to the Jap arsenal, every time I posted something about the mod some psuedo-historian (or worse yet El Cid Again) would pop in and give me a long lecture on why this couldn't happen. AAAAAAA!

This is one speciality in this forum.
Everyone is trying to encourage you... [;)]

Even if said that it is INTENDED to be ahistorical and impossible, at least once a day someone pops up to write "What you do is bullshit, this wasn't possible, I know all better"

The best reaction is to ignore them!

[Jorm]

ORIGINAL: bstarr

ORIGINAL: Shark7
As far as the Vichy ships in SE Asia...they were interned and eventually disarmed by the Japanese, so its hard to justify adding them.

[:@] (screams and pulls hair)[:@]
This is why I went underground with my last Vichy Mod. No matter how many times I posted a disclaimer saying that the idea was simply to add interresting ships to the Jap arsenal, every time I posted something about the mod some psuedo-historian (or worse yet El Cid Again) would pop in and give me a long lecture on why this couldn't happen. AAAAAAA!

ps. Not that I'm calling you a pseudo-historian - hell, I like you - you just had the poor luck to fall into the mess from a long time ago. Sort of like stepping on a landmine from a bygone war. [;)]

Noooo, a Vichy mod would be outstanding, who cares if it is improbable. You'll see page after page of people crying out for a Germany in the pacific scenario as well.

I for one would love to see a vichy mod, or at least get more french ships in the game on either side.

i think a scenario that opens in dec 41 with the French-thai war would be very interesting as well. ie keeping the french on the allied side.

[bstarr]

Well, I wish I had saved the mod I completed for WITP, but I switched computers and all of it is lost. It was a flawed mod, though. I failed to properly adjust the jap industry to make up for some new ships that arrived late. Still, it wasn't in such bad shape it couldn't be fixed. I may have to go there again. Although in truth I'd rather someone else do it. I'm lazy like that. [:D]

I guess whenever the artists at large finish making thier own standard AE ship designs I'll see if one might want to cook up a few French ships.

[Jorm]

ha, you and me both

Some one has made a range of french ship graphics already , i had them downloaded some where. There were enough to get started anyways. The links page from spooky's site had a few places that i think i striped some from in the event i ever got around to modding. Anyways i never understood the fascination with perfect ship graphic, Theres enough ships in game to get close approximations, id suggest anyways.

[bstarr]

heh, me too. I use the Kongo for just about every modded Jap BB under the sun. I wouldn't do it with a 'public' mod, though. The few people who don't pop in and say "Your mod couldn't really happen!" will show up and say "Your graphics look terrible!"

Jokes aside, I'm actually not half bad at taking an existing picture and changing it into a different ship - They're certainly not even close to what some of the real artists can do, but it beats the hell out of looking at the Kongo for every ship.

ps. send me a link to spooky's if you don't mind. I lost my links with the old computer

[Jorm]

http://mathubert.free.fr/

yes, this forum attracts all types, ie your comment about the alternate history naysayers.
Im convinced some of the most active whingers dont really actually play the game, just get excited about nit picking ,

anyways, i have some ideas about getting more french units in game either as vichy or free french that id be happy to discuss, even if only to annoy the naysayers

There is some one right now ,im sure, in allmost apoplectic convuslions making a Jutland in the pacific mod, or soem thing equally 'unrealistic', but hey thats the fun of wargamining , to play the whast ifs, the never wheres and the wouldnt it be fun if's

cheers

[bstarr]

sounds like a winner. Before I get into any heavy modding I'm planning on playing a game of andy's ironman mod with a few minor touches of my own. I may change a few of the new ships to French class ships so I can test them out. I figure by the time I make some serious progress in that game I will have enough experience with AE to work on a serious mod.

You know, with AE I can even add French planes. I didn't have enough slots in my last mod.

[NormS3]

::Another encouraging backslap::

Have toyed with a Thai-French war mod myself, (I think I like researching almost as much as AE!). So best of luck and I'll be happy to share some of my findings/sites

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

This is why I went underground with my last Vichy Mod. No matter how many times I posted a disclaimer saying that the idea was simply to add interresting ships to the Jap arsenal, every time I posted something about the mod some psuedo-historian (or worse yet El Cid Again) would pop in and give me a long lecture on why this couldn't happen. AAAAAAA!

This is one speciality in this forum.
Everyone is trying to encourage you... [;)]

Even if said that it is INTENDED to be ahistorical and impossible, at least once a day someone pops up to write "What you do is bullshit, this wasn't possible, I know all better"

The best reaction is to ignore them!

As far as a-historical, I may be the king of A-historical and completely impossible. I'm adding in ships that were never even built, a building programme that would have bankrupted every nation that embarked upon it, and complete cooperation between the Axis nations (FW-190s and Panzers in the Pacific anyone?)

And I am putting serious consideration into how I want to treat the Vichy in my mod.

[bstarr]

ORIGINAL: Shark7

ORIGINAL: Historiker

This is why I went underground with my last Vichy Mod. No matter how many times I posted a disclaimer saying that the idea was simply to add interresting ships to the Jap arsenal, every time I posted something about the mod some psuedo-historian (or worse yet El Cid Again) would pop in and give me a long lecture on why this couldn't happen. AAAAAAA!

This is one speciality in this forum.
Everyone is trying to encourage you... [;)]

Even if said that it is INTENDED to be ahistorical and impossible, at least once a day someone pops up to write "What you do is bullshit, this wasn't possible, I know all better"

The best reaction is to ignore them!

As far as a-historical, I may be the king of A-historical and completely impossible. I'm adding in ships that were never even built, a building programme that would have bankrupted every nation that embarked upon it, and complete cooperation between the Axis nations (FW-190s and Panzers in the Pacific anyone?)

And I am putting serious consideration into how I want to treat the Vichy in my mod.

Ah, yes, a man after my own heart. Every once in a while I try to pretend to be some sort of pseudo-intellectual, or at least act semi-mature. You know, acting like everything concerning the game has to have some basis in reality. But in truth, my personal "me, only me" mod gives the japs everything but the kitchen sink just so I can bomb the living hell out of it.

WITP stats on the Death Star anyone? [:D]

[bstarr]

ORIGINAL: Norm3

::Another encouraging backslap::

Have toyed with a Thai-French war mod myself, (I think I like researching almost as much as AE!). So best of luck and I'll be happy to share some of my findings/sites

Thanks! I'm not actually planning on starting this one for some time and if someone picks up the Vichy torch before I get started I'll probably just help them rather than make my own. However, I will certainly let you know if/when I do get started.

[NormS3]

Was also toying with a possible star wars mod prior to AE . . .

Have to check my notes[:D]

[bstarr]

[:D] That would be freaking hilarious. Seriously. If you have the time, you should do it. It would be the ultimate tongue-in-cheek WITP Tribute. Of course, even a small scenario would take a long time to complete since everything would have to be worked in from scratch. Still, it would be a riot. Go for it.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: bstarr

ORIGINAL: Shark7

ORIGINAL: Historiker


This is one speciality in this forum.
Everyone is trying to encourage you... [;)]

Even if said that it is INTENDED to be ahistorical and impossible, at least once a day someone pops up to write "What you do is bullshit, this wasn't possible, I know all better"

The best reaction is to ignore them!

As far as a-historical, I may be the king of A-historical and completely impossible. I'm adding in ships that were never even built, a building programme that would have bankrupted every nation that embarked upon it, and complete cooperation between the Axis nations (FW-190s and Panzers in the Pacific anyone?)

And I am putting serious consideration into how I want to treat the Vichy in my mod.

Ah, yes, a man after my own heart. Every once in a while I try to pretend to be some sort of pseudo-intellectual, or at least act semi-mature. You know, acting like everything concerning the game has to have some basis in reality. But in truth, my personal "me, only me" mod gives the japs everything but the kitchen sink just so I can bomb the living hell out of it.

WITP stats on the Death Star anyone? [:D]

Not quite that bad. I am giving the allies a ton of stuff as well...in the end, the Japanese are probably worse off in my mod, and I'm a JFB. [:D]

The Asiatic fleet will be fully capable of putting up a strong defense...even if the BBs are all WWI dreadnaughts. [;)]