Alternate WNT Scenarios (v11 Released)
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
There Japanese BBs are spread out a little;
IJN;
Kongo/Haruna - Escorting KB
Hiei/Kirishima - Escorting Malaya landings
Fuso/Yamashiro - At Tokyo
Ide/Hyuga - At Yokosuka
Nagato/Mutsu - At Kure
Tosa/Kaga - At Kure
Harima - At Fukuoka
Sagami/Suruga - At Takao (in a fast move TF)
Echizen/Shinano - At Kure
Yamato/Musashi - At Kure
Amagi/Akagi - With KB
Shokaku - At Truk
Taiho/Shoho - With KB
Soryu/Koryu - With KB
USN;
Standard BBs (Minus Washington, New Mexico) - Pearl Harbour
Washington - Seattle
New Mexico - San Francisco
Constitution - Pearl Harbour
Constellation - With Saratoga returning from Noumea
Lexington - San Francisco (Undergoing refit)
Saratoga - Returning from Noumea
Wasp - Atlantic
Hornet - On the way to Pearl, just depearted West Coast
Yorktown - Pearl Harbour
Enterprise - On the way to Midway
Ranger - Atlantic
Essex - Atlantic
British assets in the area are;
Howe - Singapore
Jellicoe - Singapore
Beatty - Enroute to Singapore with Courageous (near Ceylon)
Warspite - Ceylon
Hermes - Ceylon
Courageous - Enroute to Singapore (near Ceylon)
Dutch;
De Zeven Provinzien - Returning to Soerabaja
IJN;
Kongo/Haruna - Escorting KB
Hiei/Kirishima - Escorting Malaya landings
Fuso/Yamashiro - At Tokyo
Ide/Hyuga - At Yokosuka
Nagato/Mutsu - At Kure
Tosa/Kaga - At Kure
Harima - At Fukuoka
Sagami/Suruga - At Takao (in a fast move TF)
Echizen/Shinano - At Kure
Yamato/Musashi - At Kure
Amagi/Akagi - With KB
Shokaku - At Truk
Taiho/Shoho - With KB
Soryu/Koryu - With KB
USN;
Standard BBs (Minus Washington, New Mexico) - Pearl Harbour
Washington - Seattle
New Mexico - San Francisco
Constitution - Pearl Harbour
Constellation - With Saratoga returning from Noumea
Lexington - San Francisco (Undergoing refit)
Saratoga - Returning from Noumea
Wasp - Atlantic
Hornet - On the way to Pearl, just depearted West Coast
Yorktown - Pearl Harbour
Enterprise - On the way to Midway
Ranger - Atlantic
Essex - Atlantic
British assets in the area are;
Howe - Singapore
Jellicoe - Singapore
Beatty - Enroute to Singapore with Courageous (near Ceylon)
Warspite - Ceylon
Hermes - Ceylon
Courageous - Enroute to Singapore (near Ceylon)
Dutch;
De Zeven Provinzien - Returning to Soerabaja
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Thanks for the headsup Juan! Sounds good to me
. Good idea to put a CV into Pearl - it may or may not get creamed and it gives a nice little imbalance to the scenario. Usually as an Allied player one considers the BBs in Pearl as a writeoff, so whatever escapes there is a free gift.
Counting the days to the patch and to your Mod [8D]

Counting the days to the patch and to your Mod [8D]
RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Hey guys.
With the patch out I can finally start working on this again.
I'm currently travelling, so while I'll be able to get some work done, we're probably looking at a release later next week, as I want to rerun the AtA and Naval Combat tests to see if the modifications I made are still accurate.
With the patch out I can finally start working on this again.
I'm currently travelling, so while I'll be able to get some work done, we're probably looking at a release later next week, as I want to rerun the AtA and Naval Combat tests to see if the modifications I made are still accurate.
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Hi Juan,
in the meantime, what about releasing a sneak peak or a beta version
....would make my weekend sooo much better (weather is awful here so lot of time for gaming while GF Unit Mk I is busy with dinner
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in the meantime, what about releasing a sneak peak or a beta version




RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
how about that coral sea and guadalcanal full campaign.
Any progress
Release ?[8D]
Any progress
Release ?[8D]
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Ditto looking forward to the mod coming out..after an enforced absence from AE due to CTD issues but now fixed with the patch coming out [&o]
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Remember that starting US fleet units on the EAST COAST is now an option.
We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.
RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
I know, and I intended to have several US and British ships start at either the East Coast or UK respectively. This means you can choose which area to bring those assets into the theatre from.
I've finished work on migrating the naval changes over, so scenario 40 is ready to go. Working on the full changes for 41 now. When those are done I'll migrate them to the Coral Sea and Guadalcanal scenarios, and release 40, 41, 48, 49. I'll release the BB Variant as soon as I'm done with it.
I've finished work on migrating the naval changes over, so scenario 40 is ready to go. Working on the full changes for 41 now. When those are done I'll migrate them to the Coral Sea and Guadalcanal scenarios, and release 40, 41, 48, 49. I'll release the BB Variant as soon as I'm done with it.
RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
now 1 ?
even with thoose massive reinforcements .
Do you still have to put some serious distanse from thoose
Japs carriers?
even with thoose massive reinforcements .
Do you still have to put some serious distanse from thoose
Japs carriers?
RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
in english :
even would the US have 30 BB .
They still wouldn't make a chance against an expianced Jap Admiral commanding KB 1
I know my english is not OK but when you can wright dutch and german like this we are even LOL
even would the US have 30 BB .
They still wouldn't make a chance against an expianced Jap Admiral commanding KB 1
I know my english is not OK but when you can wright dutch and german like this we are even LOL
RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Well, the initial balance of power is still in Japans favour, especially regarding the surface forces. The carrier forces are more even, but the US needs to gather and consolidate its carrier forces first before it can really face Japan.
Initial setup - forces in the pacific only,
IJN;
4 Kongo class
2 Fuso class
2 Ise class
2 Nagato class
2 Tosa class
1 Harima class
2 Sagami class
2 Echizen class
2 Yamato class
(4 BC, 9 BB, 2 Modern BB, 4 Super BB)
2 Amagi
2 Taiho
2 Hiryu
(6 CV)
-2 More CV due in the first half of 42
USN;
2 Nevada
2 Pennsylvania
3 New Mexico
2 Tennessee
4 Colorado
2 Lexington
2 North Carolina
1 South Dakota
(2 BC, 13 BB, 3 Modern BB)
-3 South Dakota due in the first half of 42
2 Lexington (one damaged)
1 Wasp
2 Yorktown
(5 CV)
-1 Wasp transferring in the first half of 42
-1 Essex transferring in the first half of 42
-2 Essex launched in the first half of 42
I'd say the USN can probably take a good shot at engaging the KB in mid-late 42. Of course, this is likely to go either way, and its not until mid-late 43 that they can really crush it for certain.
Its going to take until mid 43 and the Montanas however, for the USN to get its qualitative advantage in surface forces back. By late 42, they'll have the numbers, and radar will probably help, but nothing to match the 4 super BBs on even terms.
PS; Finished converting everything for Scen 41 except the new Allied aircraft. Should be done with those today.
Initial setup - forces in the pacific only,
IJN;
4 Kongo class
2 Fuso class
2 Ise class
2 Nagato class
2 Tosa class
1 Harima class
2 Sagami class
2 Echizen class
2 Yamato class
(4 BC, 9 BB, 2 Modern BB, 4 Super BB)
2 Amagi
2 Taiho
2 Hiryu
(6 CV)
-2 More CV due in the first half of 42
USN;
2 Nevada
2 Pennsylvania
3 New Mexico
2 Tennessee
4 Colorado
2 Lexington
2 North Carolina
1 South Dakota
(2 BC, 13 BB, 3 Modern BB)
-3 South Dakota due in the first half of 42
2 Lexington (one damaged)
1 Wasp
2 Yorktown
(5 CV)
-1 Wasp transferring in the first half of 42
-1 Essex transferring in the first half of 42
-2 Essex launched in the first half of 42
I'd say the USN can probably take a good shot at engaging the KB in mid-late 42. Of course, this is likely to go either way, and its not until mid-late 43 that they can really crush it for certain.
Its going to take until mid 43 and the Montanas however, for the USN to get its qualitative advantage in surface forces back. By late 42, they'll have the numbers, and radar will probably help, but nothing to match the 4 super BBs on even terms.
PS; Finished converting everything for Scen 41 except the new Allied aircraft. Should be done with those today.
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
I agree..the IJN still has the advantage for a good while in the game allowing the IJN player to maybe go for longer range objectives and see if the Allied player is willing to fight to hold those bases he/she considers vital..etc Suva maybe even Bora Bora..[:D]
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Imagin they would assault Pearl with ground troops ?
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RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
Hi Juan,
"PS; Finished converting everything for Scen 41 except the new Allied aircraft. Should be done with those today."
Is 41 the full mod or just the database changes? Hope it's the former...
I know I know I'm too impatient and forgive me for that
[&o]
"PS; Finished converting everything for Scen 41 except the new Allied aircraft. Should be done with those today."
Is 41 the full mod or just the database changes? Hope it's the former...


RE: Alternate WNT Scenarios
41 is the stock AE scenario with all the DB changes. Its actually the most work, as I have most of the ship class files for the BB Variant done already.
AltWNT v5 Out
Version 5 is out.
This release includes Scenarios 40, 41, 48 and 49.
Scenario 42 will be released with Version 5b later this week.
Enjoy.
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Latest version - v5 - 15th September 2009
Scenario 40 - 'Lite' Grand Campaign Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen40v5.rar
Scenario 41 - 'Full' Grand Campaign Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen41v5.rar
Scenario 48 - Coral Sea Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen48v5.rar
Scenario 49 - Guadalcanal Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen49v5.rar
Aircraft Artwork - Required for 41/48/49;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/AltWNT_Air_v5.rar
Version 5 Complete Pack - Includes 40/41/48/49 + AirArt;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/AltWNT_Complete_v5.rar
This release includes Scenarios 40, 41, 48 and 49.
Scenario 42 will be released with Version 5b later this week.
Enjoy.
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Latest version - v5 - 15th September 2009
Scenario 40 - 'Lite' Grand Campaign Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen40v5.rar
Scenario 41 - 'Full' Grand Campaign Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen41v5.rar
Scenario 48 - Coral Sea Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen48v5.rar
Scenario 49 - Guadalcanal Adaption;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/Scen49v5.rar
Aircraft Artwork - Required for 41/48/49;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/AltWNT_Air_v5.rar
Version 5 Complete Pack - Includes 40/41/48/49 + AirArt;
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/8/1/2529503/AltWNT_Complete_v5.rar
RE: AltWNT v5 Out
There are a few minor errors in the databases for v5, so the next release including Scenario 42 will be v6.
These are mostly related to the ammo changes for BB/BC/CA's in Scenarios 48 and 49. Ships in these scenarios do not have the increased ammo values found in 40/41.
Something I neglected to mention in my last post;
Anyone who is playing this, please forward any 'interesting' or odd surface or air combat reports to me via PM or by email. I have done a lot of testing, but it cannot compare to the amount that gets done by players themselves.
So if you see something that makes you raise an eyebrow, let me know.
PS: Sorry for the triple post.
PPS: ~180mb worth of downloads in one day. Thanks guys!
These are mostly related to the ammo changes for BB/BC/CA's in Scenarios 48 and 49. Ships in these scenarios do not have the increased ammo values found in 40/41.
Something I neglected to mention in my last post;
Anyone who is playing this, please forward any 'interesting' or odd surface or air combat reports to me via PM or by email. I have done a lot of testing, but it cannot compare to the amount that gets done by players themselves.
So if you see something that makes you raise an eyebrow, let me know.
PS: Sorry for the triple post.
PPS: ~180mb worth of downloads in one day. Thanks guys!
RE: AltWNT v5 Out
Is here a version with the big map starting in 42 or 43 ?
If no are you working at something like that ?
If no are you working at something like that ?
RE: AltWNT v5 Out
If the AE Team ever releases a 1942/3 scenario, I'll happily convert it to either Scenario 40 or 41 standard. However, I've heard that this is unlikely.
I have no plans to do a 1942 scenario of my own, atleast not until I've released BB, CV and Balanced Variants of AltWNT, in both standard and enhanced flavours.
Even then its a massive undertaking - I've come to respect that just having done Naval OOBs for the AltWNT scenarios, and its no doubt easier to do when you're the guy coming up with the history, not trying to dig it out of a plethora of reference materials, some of which are no doubt extremely obscure and hard to come by.
One idea I've had is to do a complete AltWNT guadalcanal campaign using full mod OOBs and so forth. Or a Philippines campaign in the same style.
Chances are that at that point in time I'll be really busy making sure everything stays up to date and correcting for patch changes that all my 'hobby time' will go to this...so I wont have enough time to undertake the effort to create a 1942 scenario to satisfaction.
I have no plans to do a 1942 scenario of my own, atleast not until I've released BB, CV and Balanced Variants of AltWNT, in both standard and enhanced flavours.
Even then its a massive undertaking - I've come to respect that just having done Naval OOBs for the AltWNT scenarios, and its no doubt easier to do when you're the guy coming up with the history, not trying to dig it out of a plethora of reference materials, some of which are no doubt extremely obscure and hard to come by.
One idea I've had is to do a complete AltWNT guadalcanal campaign using full mod OOBs and so forth. Or a Philippines campaign in the same style.
Chances are that at that point in time I'll be really busy making sure everything stays up to date and correcting for patch changes that all my 'hobby time' will go to this...so I wont have enough time to undertake the effort to create a 1942 scenario to satisfaction.