Vista 64 Tracker Users (or attempted users)

[erstad]

I know several people have Tracker running under Vista 64. Have any of you loaded a PBEM game, or is it all head to head or versus AI?

P. Hausser - are you trying to load a PBEM, or an AI game? If the former, can you try starting a head to head game and see if tracker will load for that? (Remember to change the GameType in the properties file)

It turns out I can get Tracker running with HTH and AI but not PBEM.

From years of software support experience, I have to admit the most likely explanation is "Pilot error" such as a dumb error in the configuration file. However, maybe there's something odd going on with Vista 64 and the PBEM AE games.

[P.Hausser]

PROGRESS...


AE Tracker work for me in game VS the AI ... but not in the PMEB game.

I just figured that out..




Paul

[Walloc]

After Erstad alerted me and tested it. Same thing here . Works vs AI what was what i tested last night. Doesnt work with pbem games. Odd. [X(]

Kind regards,

Rasmus

[erstad]

ORIGINAL: Walloc

After Erstad alerted me and tested it. Same thing works vs AI what was what i tested last night. Doesnt work with pbem games. Odd. [X(]

Kind regards,

Rasmus

Thanks for running the test, much appreciated.

It sounds like we now are three for three on Vista 64 machines loading HTH or AI but not PBEM. Moves my "dumb user error" a little lower in likelihood!

[floydg]

This is interesting...

Since I don't have 64-bit, it's hard for me to test. But the difference between vs. AI and PBEM is really small - just a password check.

[Defcon4]

I've been trying to load a saved game against the AI into AE Tracker without success. I'm running Vista 64 with both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Java 6 Update 16. I've also tried running both the Bat file and the Jar file. The Bat file generates an error message stating that I have an "Unsatisfied Link Error - pwsdll.dll can't load IA 32 bit .dll on an AMD 64 bit platform". I actually have an Intel chip but I doubt that matters.

[P.Hausser]

ORIGINAL: DefCon3

I've been trying to load a saved game against the AI into AE Tracker without success. I'm running Vista 64 with both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Java 6 Update 16. I've also tried running both the Bat file and the Jar file. The Bat file generates an error message stating that I have an "Unsatisfied Link Error - pwsdll.dll can't load IA 32 bit .dll on an AMD 64 bit platform". I actually have an Intel chip but I doubt that matters.

Funny you say that, I get exactlly the same when I try running from batch, and I also have a Quad Intel system..

[jazman]

ORIGINAL: DefCon3

I've been trying to load a saved game against the AI into AE Tracker without success. I'm running Vista 64 with both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Java 6 Update 16. I've also tried running both the Bat file and the Jar file. The Bat file generates an error message stating that I have an "Unsatisfied Link Error - pwsdll.dll can't load IA 32 bit .dll on an AMD 64 bit platform". I actually have an Intel chip but I doubt that matters.

It's all AMD-Intel vendor maneuvering, with a nice volley by Microsoft.

Microsoft made a 64-bit Windows version for the Itanium CPU (IA64), which is made jointly by Intel and HP. AMD came out with their own 64-bit CPU (x86_64), and Microsoft developed the x64 version of Windows. Intel came along and wanted to have their own 64-bit CPU, but Microsoft said "screw you, we've already done a version for you, use AMD's standard, and you'll have your OS." Intel, realizing that an Intel 64-bit CPU without a Windows OS is useless, came out with their EM64T, which is basically AMD-conformant.

So the Microsoft Windows x64 is at base made for AMD's x86_64, and Intel went along. That's how I remember it, from years ago.

[floydg]

The only thing different between vs. AI and PBEM is checking the password. Unless the save file itself is different between these two and that's causing some issue with the DLL.

[P.Hausser]

ORIGINAL: floydg

The only thing different between vs. AI and PBEM is checking the password. Unless the save file itself is different between these two and that's causing some issue with the DLL.

I have checked multiple times that the password ect is correct entered and the options entered correct.


Do you have any theorys about what it can be, or what things we can try to get it working ?

[floydg]

Okay, try this:

- Download the attachment from the Support page on the WitPTracker AE site, which is [font="Courier New"]jnipws.jar[/font], to the WitPTracker AE directory
- Open a command window
- Change directory to the WitPTracker AE directory
- Copy whatever wpaexxx.pws file you have to be [font="Courier New"]wpae005.pws[/font]
- Start the program using [font="Courier New"]java -jar jnipws.jar[/font]
- Tell me if you see any Index xx ID yy ... lines

Floyd

[P.Hausser]

ORIGINAL: floydg

Okay, try this:

- Download the attachment from the Support page on the WitPTracker AE site, which is [font="Courier New"]jnipws.jar[/font], to the WitPTracker AE directory
- Open a command window
- Change directory to the WitPTracker AE directory
- Copy whatever wpaexxx.pws file you have to be [font="Courier New"]wpae005.pws[/font]
- Start the program using [font="Courier New"]java -jar jnipws.jar[/font]
- Tell me if you see any Index xx ID yy ... lines

Floyd

Ok, tested it, and I mailed you the results.

[rroberson]

I have given up trying to get tracker to work in Vista, while Im sure its operator error...I ahve tried everything I can think of to get it going and failed.

[floydg]

Okay, here's something else to try. Copy the pwsdll.dll file from witpstaff to the WitPTracker AE folder and see if the program runs fine with that. I may have been packaging with an older DLL.

[jmscho]

My findings so far are:

By setting GameType to [0] (but for a PBEM game) and using the pwsdll supplied with WitPTracker, it appears to do something. The trackerdb.log grow to 9,507Kb and contains things (TF Names) that could only exist in my save file. But the user interface is not displayed. Waiting several minutes and running again, a backup is produced and the log file is emptied.

If I use the pwsdll from WitPStaff files are created but the log file contains little. Similarly when setting GameType to [1].

[n01487477]

Can you do one more test for me, use an end turn save (after you have hit end turn), set the properties GameType to [1]

--Damian--

[jmscho]

Using the file saved ready to send to my opponent. GameType set to [1]. Must admit I had expected nothing to happen.

Similar to before. The log file grew to 14,852 Kb and included my TF names. No UI presented.

Rerun a while later also produced no UI and emptied the log file.

[jmscho]

Continued from above.

Using pwsdll from WitPstaff, nothing happens.

Having gameType set to [0] only produces 48Kb log file.

[n01487477]

Ok mate,
I'm in the process of downloading a trial of windows 7 64 bit, give me a few days to continue looking into this.

Regards and sorry again
Damian

[jmscho]

Thanks Damian