MARE BELLUM - ADMIRAL'S EDITION EDITION

[DuckofTindalos]

Why would it start in 9/40?

[Dili]

It was when Japanese occupied. At first there was agreement and a certain number of troops could be deployed but some hours later an invasion started and combats occured.

http://www.net4war.com/e-revue/dossiers ... sgm-01.htm

In English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_o ... _Indochina

[DuckofTindalos]

I'm aware of that. In my mod, the Japs decided not to press the issue; the French defeat in 1940 was not complete and there's no Vichy collaborator government.

Instead, Indochina becomes another aspect of the overall Jap plan. I haven't decided on the Jap strategy yet, but it'll probably involve attacks from both Chinese and Thai territory.

[DuckofTindalos]

Here's something else. I like doing ships more than anything when it comes to AE, so here's the French heavy cruiser Duquesne. She was France's first treaty cruiser, and had the delightfully airy armour scheme you see below (430 tons of protection on 10,000 tons of ship):

[Alikchi2]

Nice! Are you going to Mers-el-Kébir happen as usual, or will there be other lovely French treats? Seems to me that the attack wouldn't happen if France doesn't go Vichy.

[DuckofTindalos]

There will be others, but the MN will have commitments in the Atlantic and the Med as well.

[Alikchi2]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

There will be others, but the MN will have commitments in the Atlantic and the Med as well.

Fair enough! Did you do the image yourself? It's excellent.

[DuckofTindalos]

It's my modification of the AE image of the La Galissionere class.

[DuckofTindalos]

To round off the evening, I leave you with the Mogador, a French 4000-ton(!) destroyer capable of 39 knots. Gee, I wonder where the Japs got the idea for the Shimakaze?[:D]

[Dili]

I'm aware of that. In my mod, the Japs decided not to press the issue; the French defeat in 1940 was not complete and there's no Vichy collaborator government.

Instead, Indochina becomes another aspect of the overall Jap plan. I haven't decided on the Jap strategy yet, but it'll probably involve attacks from both Chinese and Thai territory.

But then how the harbours changed nationality? Maybe you don't want to bother moving Japanese out from Camrah Bay eh [;)]?

Here's something else. I like doing ships more than anything when it comes to AE, so here's the French heavy cruiser Duquesne. She was France's first treaty cruiser, and had the delightfully airy armour scheme you see below (430 tons of protection on 10,000 tons of ship

Yep they had some quirky ships. Maybe more of a colonial cruiser but it has speed for fleet service.

It is a disgrace that the online plans from French Navy were closed due to hacking(at least they say it was because of it). I could only get 2 or 3 ships.

[DuckofTindalos]

I already moved all Japanese units from Indochina. That's sort of the point, no?

[Dili]

Well, the three coastal forts already in Indochina (Cam Rahn, Cap St. Jacques and Haiphong) have mysteriously changed ownership and nationality.

What this means then?

[DuckofTindalos]

Well, if you check the three coastal forts in question, you'll see that (unsurprisingly) they use French weapons. I just changed the nationality of them from Japanese to French, to go with all the Indochinese bases being French. No reason to rebuild them from scratch.

[Dili]

Okay, there was a misunderstanding since i interpreted you would be put them under Japanese.

[DuckofTindalos]

Those French people and their external torpedo tubes. Very peculiar:

[Dili]

When i researched french submarines i tought they were really external like in some midgets. But no they were rotating torpedo launchers over external hull in some or a tube under a carenage at rear. They were a failure, the rotating ones were noisy and not very reliable . I have seen references that one of the reason is that french couldn't set spread angles in their torpedos.

Edit: i have checked my data and there are 2 reloads torpedos in bow. It is also doubtful the 37mm Gun(no photo or drawing evidence.)

[DuckofTindalos]

Yep. The Redoutable was constructed with a quadruple external mount, coupling two 55cm and two 40cm tubes together. Very weird.

[Dili]

The center torpedos are also external.

Check the number 7.

[chacal83000]

Haa, the Duquesne.... A lot of good moments for me as I was servicing on the later 6000 t Missile Frigate Duquesne until it was decomissioned in 2007 (after 37 years of service...) On board we had a lot of photos of the olds Duquesnes, particularly the one you presented, even a reducted model of it.

In any case i'll follow your fantastic work with attention !
Thanks !

Ludwik

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Here's something else. I like doing ships more than anything when it comes to AE, so here's the French heavy cruiser Duquesne. She was France's first treaty cruiser, and had the delightfully airy armour scheme you see below (430 tons of protection on 10,000 tons of ship):

[DuckofTindalos]

My work isn't "fantastic" in any way. I'm just a guy with some books and waaaay too much time on his hands...

There'll be some planes next.