AI Cheating Or A Bug?

[Top Cat]

Been playing campaign against Allied AI on normal difficulty and noticed that his air force seemed very resilient to say the least.

So I had a quick peek and noticed that by late Jan. 1942 he'd taken over 800 P40E replacements and 100's of B17 and other bomber replacements.

Is my game screwed up or is it working as designed?

Cheers
Top Cat

[Chris21wen]

From my AI game against Japan yes, the figures are monsterous. I'm in early April and I've had 150 P-40E.

[Crimguy]

That's insane - I'm playing as allies and I'm running out of P40's everywhere.

[herwin]

ORIGINAL: Crimguy

That's insane - I'm playing as allies and I'm running out of P40's everywhere.

The AI has the brains of an ant colony...

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: herwin

ORIGINAL: Crimguy

That's insane - I'm playing as allies and I'm running out of P40's everywhere.

The AI has the brains of an ant colony...

and that´s why it gets 800 P-40 in one month?

Sounds more than strange

[beppi]

It's an advantage of the AI, practically limitless Planes. I think it's only on hard/very hard or just very hard, but necessary cause without it beating the AI would be much to easy. It still has the weekly limits of plane replacement, so evenen with this adavantage you can attrit units quite easy. The AI won't rotate Airgroups, build strongpoints or conduct airfield bombardments on a level compared to a player so it's no really problem.

[Admiral Scott]

I HOPE THIS IS JUST A BUG!

If so, I hope its fixed fast!

[Admiral Scott]

He said he was playing on normal difficulty, not hard or very hard.

[JocMeister]

I´m playing on normal vs the AI and it has run out of both nells and bettys!

[Top Cat]

Yep. Just playing on "default" or normal difficulty level.

The Allied AI has about 25 squadrons of P40E's all at full strength.

Will have to rethink my strategy if this is how it's supposed to be.

Don't mind the Japanese AI having a "boost" as the the Allies will grind them down eventually, but the Allied AI having so many planes so early is a different ball game.

The AVG in Burma might be a tough nut to crack as they've all upgraded to P40E's and won't run out of spares any time soon...

Anyway I'm gonna go down swinging.

Cheers
Top Cat

[Knavey]

ORIGINAL: herwin

ORIGINAL: Crimguy

That's insane - I'm playing as allies and I'm running out of P40's everywhere.

The AI has the brains of an ant colony...

LOL.

Herwin,

I don't know about in the UK, but the fire ants down here in Florida do NOT need brains. If they did, humans would be extinct. Those little buggers can lay a hurting on you with bites that rival a Tiger. I got bit one time by ONE ant...had 50 welts in an area about the size of a large coin. He had gotten under my clothes and just went to town.

Thank GOODNESS they don't have the intelligence of a higher organism.

[Rexor]

ORIGINAL: beppi

It's an advantage of the AI, practically limitless Planes. I think it's only on hard/very hard or just very hard, but necessary cause without it beating the AI would be much to easy. It still has the weekly limits of plane replacement, so evenen with this adavantage you can attrit units quite easy. The AI won't rotate Airgroups, build strongpoints or conduct airfield bombardments on a level compared to a player so it's no really problem.

Just out of curiosity, is this sort of behavior moddable in the editor?

[Swayin]

I wish I had those numbers coming into my squadrons ... the poor guys on Tabituea and Baker are holding their planes together with duct tape and chicken wire.

[Halsey]

ORIGINAL: Top Cat

Been playing campaign against Allied AI on normal difficulty and noticed that his air force seemed very resilient to say the least.

So I had a quick peek and noticed that by late Jan. 1942 he'd taken over 800 P40E replacements and 100's of B17 and other bomber replacements.

Is my game screwed up or is it working as designed?

Cheers
Top Cat

It's WAD...

Either side you play against the AI receives a bootomless pit of air reinforcements.
The pilots that arrive later WILL reflect the losses.
Eventually you'll start slaughtering them, or they'll run away.

[Halsey]

BTW

I'm looking forward to some ingenious modders to start a fully HISTORICAL scripted campaign scenario.

Any takers?[:D]

[Crimguy]

Was this in the original WItP? I don't remember this being an issue.

I have been noting that my Allied pilots are getting a better than 1:1 kill ratio against the Japanese, something I wouldn't expect in December, 41. And not just AVG and P40's like it was in the old game. My Buffalo's are kicking butt around Singapore and Rangoon as well as on my CV's.

[Valgua]

This seems a serious issue to me. No response from the developers?

[Chad Harrison]

I can tell you what the response will be:

You wanted a harder AI, we gave you a harder AI.

We asked for a more challenging experience against the AI, and they delivered. Yes it comes by way of blatant AI cheating in many, many ways - but, thta makes up for all those unescorted TF's you sink with your surface ships. I have been making a mental list of all the 'cheats' that the AI is using, and the list is quite long by now. And by 'cheat', I mean having the ability to do something that a human player can not - such as the unlimited planes or the ability to have instant 100 planning points for anywhere on the map, or having no restrictions on restricted troops (was a hoot to see a division from Kwatung show up in Noumea! [X(]) and so on.

*BUT*, they do not get full experienced pilots for free. All the planes in the world mean nothing is they are being flown by someone with 35 skill.

[John Lansford]

Heh; I saw that same division land at Koumac.  When I mentioned its designation, someone else said later "hey, that's a Chinese Theater division, how did it get there?", and at that time one of the devs pointed out the AI wasn't restricted in LCU use.
 
Unlimited numbers of planes (but not unlimited pilots), unrestricted LCU's, what else?

[Rexor]

ORIGINAL: John Lansford

Heh; I saw that same division land at Koumac.  When I mentioned its designation, someone else said later "hey, that's a Chinese Theater division, how did it get there?", and at that time one of the devs pointed out the AI wasn't restricted in LCU use.

Unlimited numbers of planes (but not unlimited pilots), unrestricted LCU's, what else?

Don't forget teleporting TFs and no support requirements at bases...