MARE BELLUM - ADMIRAL'S EDITION EDITION

[Dili]

Yeah that is a good idea since per script Indochina is Free French. Problem is if would US recognize it as heir of French Republic. Are you sure about B-24 order? i remember DB-7 tough.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Dili

The problem with upgrades is that the Japan was allied to Germany after September 40 , and Japan indeed requested Germany to not let aircraft go to French Indochina.

Completely irrelevant, since there's no Vichy.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Skyland

ORIGINAL: Terminus

This gives me the excuse to include some of the more advanced types to replace the antiques that were there historically.

If you are looking for an advanced upgrade of Potez 25, have a look on Bloch 174, Saint-Exupery's airplane.

Already done it.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Shark7

http://france1940.free.fr/vichy/ada_sep.html#Indo

Orbat for Vichy forces in indochina at the above link, might be helpful.

Used it a long time ago.

[Skyland]

Yes 60 B24. Even 240 (!) "Boeing" surely be B-17, but not paid.

Source is the book "Les aides américaines économiques et militaires à la France, 1938-1960"

[Dili]

Completely irrelevant, since there's no Vichy.

So Germany didn't conquered France in your script? There are Aircraft Industry only in France as far as i know, and military planes only get out if Germans allow.

Yes 60 B24. Even 240 (!) "Boeing" surely be B-17, but not paid.

Thanks

[Skyland]

There was some assembly lines in North Africa, and all available french aircrafts received the order to fly to Africa few days before the Armistice.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Dili

So Germany didn't conquered France in your script? There are Aircraft Industry only in France as far as i know, and military planes only get out if Germans allow.

No, Metropolitan France HAS fallen, but the French military has relocated to North Africa. However, given the fact that there was peace in the Far East, new (US and British) aircraft have gone to units in the Mediterranean. The war there has been quite costly, so it's only now that some more modern planes have reached Indochina.

I don't intend to have the starting French types upgrading to more modern French types. The path will go from French to American aircraft.

[Dili]

Okay i understand, North Africa in Free France hands. Planes can go to Asia. The problem is they need all planes they got in North Africa.

Edit: above text(corrected) was written before i have read Terminus post.

Explained.

[DuckofTindalos]

Correct. That's why the most modern American types in Indochina at the start of my mod will be the Hawk and the Maryland.

[Dili]

Yep makes sense.

[Dili]

I had forgot about this site, it is in French but the script is like yours, the French continue fighting on. Maybe some info there that might help you.

http://www.1940lafrancecontinue.org/index.htm

[DuckofTindalos]

Here's the first of three posts on beginning OOB for the French in Indochina. Note that there's also going to be an expanded French presence in the South Pacific, but that'll come later.

For now, here's the starting strength of the Commandement Naval d'Indochine, headquartered at Cam Ranh Bay:

CA: Duquesne, Tourville.
CL: Lamotte-Picquet, Primaguet.
DD: Mogador, Bourrasque, Cyclone, Mistral, Tornade, Sirocco, Trombe.
SS: Redoutable, Archiméde, Fresnel, Pascal, Pasteur, Protée, Pégase.
PG: Amiral Charner, D'Entrecasteaux.
AMC: El Mansour, El Kantara.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Dili

I had forgot about this site, it is in French but the script is like yours, the French continue fighting on. Maybe some info there that might help you.

http://www.1940lafrancecontinue.org/index.htm

Bookmarked that one ages ago, and have been stealing a bit here and there.

[Dili]

You got in below website a fictional order of battle for Indochina in September 1941 with US equipemnt reinforcemnts including a Armoured unit with M2.

http://www.1940lafrancecontinue.org/FTL ... _09_41.htm

They put this Air Commands:Commandement Aérien d’Indochine (CAI), avec ses trois Zones Opérationnelles, Tonkin et Nord Laos (ZOTON, Hanoï), Annam et Centre/Sud Laos (ZOAL, Hué), Cochinchine et Cambodge (ZOCOC, Saïgon).

[chacal83000]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

For now, here's the starting strength of the Commandement Navale d'Indochine, headquartered at Cam Ranh Bay:

If I can remove a small quirk : it should be : Commandement Naval d'Indochine as you say "Un Commandement Naval" contrary to "Une Force Navale"...

[DuckofTindalos]

Thanks. It's called "CNI" in the scenario, so...[;)]

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Dili

You got in below website a fictional order of battle for Indochina in September 1941 with US equipemnt reinforcemnts including a Armoured unit with M2.

http://www.1940lafrancecontinue.org/FTL ... _09_41.htm

They put this Air Commands:Commandement Aérien d’Indochine (CAI), avec ses trois Zones Opérationnelles, Tonkin et Nord Laos (ZOTON, Hanoï), Annam et Centre/Sud Laos (ZOAL, Hué), Cochinchine et Cambodge (ZOCOC, Saïgon).

I don't want to copy it completely. Look for an air OOB later.

[Dili]

Sure part of the fun is what we create. But it is good to fill the holes, like those river boats and some other stuff.

[DuckofTindalos]

Sheesh, I must look pretty comical reading French off my computer screen, with my tongue sticking out the side of my mouth and my finger pointing at the words.

Good practice, though...[:D]