Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)

[seydlitz_slith]

Turn 42 17 Jan 1942

Russian forces crossed the border at Kotou in Korea. However his one division was not strong enough to get better than 1 to 2 odds against the border fort even though he has bombed it heavily for two weeks straight.

Down further south, I was dismayed to find that my large stack of units at Rybilov had reset themselves to defend with no destination. Previously, these unit had been moving to Voroshilov and had already moved almost 40 miles. No idea what caused this but now I have to start moving all over again. BTW the same thing happened with my units at Manila that were moving to Clark.

[seydlitz_slith]

I also lost several Nates this turn over Voroshilov because they were sweeping there and stayed around all turn flying cover for all the missions there. In fact, they even participated in combat when the zero units did sweeps and fought while the zeroes flew around and never engaged.

[seydlitz_slith]

Here is the situation in Mongolia and Manchukoko

[seydlitz_slith]

In North China I will be doing a deliberate attack at Loyang in a few turns with about 2500 AV.

[seydlitz_slith]

South China

[seydlitz_slith]

Malaya

[seydlitz_slith]

Borneo and Mindanao

[seydlitz_slith]

The KB is southwest of Truk and I am trolling some amphibous task forces hoping to draw out the ANZAC cruisers so that I can destroy them.

[seydlitz_slith]

Finally, here is a shot of the Haruna in the repair yard at Kure. Thanks to the damage to her main battery, she will take 112 days to repair. Now you know what happens when a ship takes significant damage.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: seydlitz

Down further south, I was dismayed to find that my large stack of units at Rybilov had reset themselves to defend with no destination. Previously, these unit had been moving to Voroshilov and had already moved almost 40 miles. No idea what caused this but now I have to start moving all over again. BTW the same thing happened with my units at Manila that were moving to Clark.

Had you set them to "follow unit"? Sounds like the same bug as in WITP as there the follow unit order also is "semi-broken". If it works, you´re lucky, if not you´re unlucky. I never found out why it works sometimes and why it doesn´t work other times.

[seydlitz_slith]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: seydlitz

Down further south, I was dismayed to find that my large stack of units at Rybilov had reset themselves to defend with no destination. Previously, these unit had been moving to Voroshilov and had already moved almost 40 miles. No idea what caused this but now I have to start moving all over again. BTW the same thing happened with my units at Manila that were moving to Clark.

Had you set them to "follow unit"? Sounds like the same bug as in WITP as there the follow unit order also is "semi-broken". If it works, you´re lucky, if not you´re unlucky. I never found out why it works sometimes and why it doesn´t work other times.

Yes, I had set them to follow unit.

[seydlitz_slith]

Turn 43 18 Jan 1942

The soviets sent a group of DDs to bombard Kanko. However I had some Japanese torpedo and gun boats there that foiled the bombardment. I lost one gun boat but no big deal. As the DDs retreated back towards Vladivostok they steamed across my submarine picket line and I had an RO boat put a torpedo into one of the destroyers.

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ASW attack near Vladivostok at 111,47

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
DD Rezhtelnyi
DD Ryanyi, heavy damage
DD Revanch
DD Stalin



DD Revanch fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Stalin fails to find sub and abandons search...
DD Revanch attacking submerged sub .......
DD Revanch fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Revanch fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Revanch fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...


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[seydlitz_slith]

The ships sunk screen says that I sunk the destroyer but I don't think so. One hit, heavy damage but no fire, and only one hex from vladivostok. At least she will be out of action, hopefully until after I take Vladivostok or at least until I bomb her in drydock.

[seydlitz_slith]

Not much on the air front. I skirmished again with the AVG at Moulmein and minor skirmishes with Soviet aircraft over Korea and Russia.

[seydlitz_slith]

I attacked at Ulan Bator but still did not have enough strength. Evidently he had reinforcements arrive there.

Ground combat at Ulan Bator (96,23)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13438 troops, 101 guns, 185 vehicles, Assault Value = 427

Defending force 18947 troops, 190 guns, 731 vehicles, Assault Value = 468

Japanese adjusted assault: 131

Allied adjusted defense: 1307

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 9 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1393 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 115 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 31 (1 destroyed, 30 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 64 (9 destroyed, 55 disabled)


Assaulting units:...
20th Recon Regiment...
15th Tank Regiment...
79th Infantry Regiment...
12th Tank Regiment...
20th Engineer Regiment...
4th Mongol Cavalry Division...
3rd Infantry Regiment...
11th Field Artillery Regiment...
...
Defending units:...
1st Motorized Rifle Regiment...
9th Armored Car Brigade...
51st Cavalry Division...
30th Motorcycle Regiment...
408th PVO AA Battalion...
37th VVS Base Force...

[SuluSea]

I finally got a chance to read the whole thread numerous times I've read the first 3 pages. Cutting edge ideas Seydlitz, thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts.

[seydlitz_slith]

These are definitely not Chinese troops that I am fighting at Ulan.

At Loyang and Changsha I am still moving up additional forces. However, down south at Nanning I was able to kick the Chinese out of the city.

Amazing how many Chinese squads were outright destroyed here.


Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16340 troops, 109 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 492

Defending force 9784 troops, 78 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Japanese adjusted assault: 252

Allied adjusted defense: 55

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nanning !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
291 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
3462 casualties reported
Squads: 70 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 108 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 31 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (12 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:...
22nd Recon Regiment...
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade...
124th Infantry Regiment...
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment...
15th Naval Guard Unit...

[Fishbed]

ORIGINAL: seydlitz

Finally, here is a shot of the Haruna in the repair yard at Kure. Thanks to the damage to her main battery, she will take 112 days to repair. Now you know what happens when a ship takes significant damage.

What about setting her to "critical"? Does it change something?

[jomni]

I don't see any significant changes when set to Critical for large damage.  Though it might bring it to the front of the repair queue when there are many ships in the port.

[seydlitz_slith]

Yes, changing to critical isn't worth it. Those damaged guns barrels just take a while to change.