Not All Troops and Equipment Can Unload at This Location

[cfulbright]

I have a number of amphib and transport TF's that cannot complete unloading their troops, and when I put my cursor over the "Cancel Unload" button, which is in orange instead of white, it says, "Not All Troops and Equipment Can Unload at This Location".

TF 72 can not completely unload troops at Wake Island
TF 1 can not completely unload troops at Rabaul
TF 125 can not completely unload troops at Baker Island
TF 339 can not completely unload troops at Midway Island
TF 377 can not completely unload troops at Wake Island
TF 389 can not completely unload troops at Palmyra
TF 237 can not completely unload troops at Luganville

In the case of Midway I have another transport TF merrily unloading there without the message, and I have other transport TF's at Rabaul successfully unloading.

Also, I have the Queen Elizabeth as a one-ship Amphib TF trying to unload the 8th NZ Bde at Rabaul, and it's unloading about 1% a turn. There are other TF's trying to unload there, and it's not docked, but that still seems slow.

[unkfester]

I am the same, I cant unload troops at Baker Island,it does not have a port, so how do i unload troops on it so i can build one?

[Montbrun]

It has to be an Amphibious TF to load/unload at Dot Bases. Port size is a factor for certain device unloading. Ship size is a major factor...

[cfulbright]

These aren't dot bases, except for Baker Island. They are Port size 1 or 2.

What's not being unloaded is motorized support in all but one case, where it's a 155mm coast artillery gun. But in the case of the motorized support, some of the support's already been unloaded. It doesn't make sense that it can unload some of it but not all of it.

[Chris21wen]

ORIGINAL: cfulbright

These aren't dot bases, except for Baker Island. They are Port size 1 or 2.

What's not being unloaded is motorized support in all but one case, where it's a 155mm coast artillery gun. But in the case of the motorized support, some of the support's already been unloaded. It doesn't make sense that it can unload some of it but not all of it.

Port have a doking linit for ships, level 1 is 6000ton, 2 is 9000ton. If a ship cannot dock due to size (the TF will tell you this) AND the equipment carried on the ship can only be unloaded when docked (it's to big) then you have to go to a port were it can be unloaded, put on an amphibious TF which is deemed to carry landing craft. Alternatively you could wait until the port size was big enough, usually level 3 for most AK/AP.

Forgot you could ship in some Naval support.

It's a micromanaging pain but that's the game.

[Chris21wen]

After thought.

In the ops report you will see messages such as 'TF cannot completely unload troops'. This is not necessarily true and is missleading. If you check the TF and the unlaod/load troops line is red then it is true, the TF cannot due to the reason mentioned above. If it's white it means its going to take a very long time to unload. I think the message should read somthing like. 'TF unloading slowly, needs to dock' in this case.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Chris H

After thought.

In the ops report you will see messages such as 'TF cannot completely unload troops'. This is not necessarily true and is missleading. If you check the TF and the unlaod/load troops line is red then it is true, the TF cannot due to the reason mentioned above. If it's white it means its going to take a very long time to unload. I think the message should read somthing like. 'TF unloading slowly, needs to dock' in this case.

If you get the cannot unload message, and then troops unload anyway it is due to some transient condition that has cleared. This can be other unloading TFs in the queue or ops limits on port or ships. We're working to clear this up a bit but it I suspect there will still be a couple of instances where the "false" message will still come out. Lots of work to restructure the checks to consider things outside the TF and really not a lot of benefit.

[cfulbright]

If you get the cannot unload message, and then troops unload anyway it is due to some transient condition that has cleared. This can be other unloading TFs in the queue or ops limits on port or ships. We're working to clear this up a bit but it I suspect there will still be a couple of instances where the "false" message will still come out. Lots of work to restructure the checks to consider things outside the TF and really not a lot of benefit.

Chris H and Don - Thanks to both of you for this information. I did try sending the ships away and then back, and at least on the day they arrive back the Unload button is not red, so perhaps it's the transient issue you mentioned.

There is one anomaly, which is Baker Island, where it's an Amphib trying to unload and being told it can't.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: cfulbright

If you get the cannot unload message, and then troops unload anyway it is due to some transient condition that has cleared. This can be other unloading TFs in the queue or ops limits on port or ships. We're working to clear this up a bit but it I suspect there will still be a couple of instances where the "false" message will still come out. Lots of work to restructure the checks to consider things outside the TF and really not a lot of benefit.

Chris H and Don - Thanks to both of you for this information. I did try sending the ships away and then back, and at least on the day they arrive back the Unload button is not red, so perhaps it's the transient issue you mentioned.

There is one anomaly, which is Baker Island, where it's an Amphib trying to unload and being told it can't.

Couple of questions.

First, what are the ships in the Amphib TF? Sticking a freighter into an amphib TF does not increase it's ability to unload heavy stuff over the beach. You get help from true amphib ships in the TF, or from Naval Support ashore, but with no pier Freighters have capability limits.

And, what are the items? Some very large pieces of gear just can't be handled over a beach in any reasonable circumstance.

[cfulbright]

Couple of questions.

First, what are the ships in the Amphib TF? Sticking a freighter into an amphib TF does not increase it's ability to unload heavy stuff over the beach. You get help from true amphib ships in the TF, or from Naval Support ashore, but with no pier Freighters have capability limits.

And, what are the items? Some very large pieces of gear just can't be handled over a beach in any reasonable circumstance.

AK Alchiba has the following items: 1x155mmM1A1 GPF, 1xSCR-270 Radar, 3xM3 Stuart Light Tanks
AP Etolin has the following items: 5x20mm Mk4 Oerlikon, 4x0.5inM2HB AAMG x4, 4x90mm M1A1 AA Gun, 2x155mm M1A1 GPF, 1=SCR-270 Radar, and 33xSupport.

[Chris21wen]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: Chris H

After thought.

In the ops report you will see messages such as 'TF cannot completely unload troops'. This is not necessarily true and is missleading. If you check the TF and the unlaod/load troops line is red then it is true, the TF cannot due to the reason mentioned above. If it's white it means its going to take a very long time to unload. I think the message should read somthing like. 'TF unloading slowly, needs to dock' in this case.

If you get the cannot unload message, and then troops unload anyway it is due to some transient condition that has cleared. This can be other unloading TFs in the queue or ops limits on port or ships. We're working to clear this up a bit but it I suspect there will still be a couple of instances where the "false" message will still come out. Lots of work to restructure the checks to consider things outside the TF and really not a lot of benefit.

FOW, that's OK.