Finnish Volunteers Needed

BryanMelvin · Post by **BryanMelvin** » Tue Oct 24, 2000 5:19 am

At the SP Arsenal, I am trying to piece together a campain or series of scenarios on the Winter War and Continuation War. If any of our good SPwaw brethern from Finland can point me to some good maps - and good info - it would be a great help designing this series.

Marauder Mel

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MarauderMel

JTV · Post by **JTV** » Tue Oct 24, 2000 11:41 am

Originally posted by BryanMelvin:
At the SP Arsenal, I am trying to piece together a campain or series of scenarios on the Winter War and Continuation War. If any of our good SPwaw brethern from Finland can point me to some good maps - and good info - it would be a great help designing this series.

Marauder Mel

I am sorry tell that there doesn't seem to be any good sites with maps of WWII Finnish battles available in the net. Only ones that I have managed to locate are in Finnish books and even those are not that good (usually black-and-white map-drawings). I have planned visiting one special library that might have better collection of maps early next month and I have allso started making some maps (Portinhoikka and Ihantala battle areas from summer of 1944). If you are interested about Finnish maps just email me and we can talk more about this.

Mac_MatrixForum · Post by **Mac_MatrixForum** » Tue Oct 24, 2000 4:18 pm

Originally posted by JTV:
I am sorry tell that there doesn't seem to be any good sites with maps of WWII Finnish battles available in the net.

Indeed. I would like to do a couple maps myself but so far I've been too lazy to acquire physical material.

I usually browse the net first.

If someone does find some maps, links would be appreciated.

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your side, their side and the truth."
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Grumble · Post by **Grumble** » Tue Oct 24, 2000 5:27 pm

Not on the net but a good book in English (heck I used it for part of my thesis) is:
Finland at Peace&War by Tillotson 1996. Outta print I believe, but still around.
If you have unlimited funds to spare you might wish to pick up GDW's "A Winter War" operational level game with EXCELLENT OOB work and a fairly detailed map. Believe it's still in print.

BryanMelvin · Post by **BryanMelvin** » Thu Oct 26, 2000 1:20 am

Thanks for tips and I'll look for that book. Any of you have a SPWAW map done of the WWII Battlefields in Finland?

Marauder Mel

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Drake · Post by **Drake** » Thu Oct 26, 2000 2:13 am

Good place to start your search for info and maps on the winter war.
http://www.winterwar.com/

BryanMelvin · Post by **BryanMelvin** » Thu Oct 26, 2000 5:25 am

Originally posted by Drake:
Good place to start your search for info and maps on the winter war.
http://www.winterwar.com/

Wow, this is a great site! Thanks Drake!!

Marauder

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MarauderMel

Drake · Post by **Drake** » Thu Oct 26, 2000 6:15 am

Yup, it is very nicely done. Not many close up maps but some very nicely but togethere information on the war itself

Schrubbery · Post by **Schrubbery** » Thu Oct 26, 2000 10:16 am

A place to start looking for Finnish maps is www.karttapaikka.nls.fi

The site is free (mostly), and it's also in English. They have maps of all scales, but unfortunately most of WWII battlefields are now in Russia. One exception is, however, and that is the battle of Suomussalmi or Raate road.

skukko · Post by **skukko** » Fri Oct 27, 2000 1:26 am

tzazatzaa!! Don't you remember Hankoniemi? Here were real infantry and recon operations during the war. And German aircraft JU-88:s bombed finnish ground, in Hanko, while russians had 25000 men in here against Finlands 5000. Fins had also volunteers from Sweden, which had 100 men, excellent morale and training, and very eager mind to get out in the 'russian' area for some action. Old posts still remain in the woods, pillboxes and bunkers. Btw. Russians had three (3) railroad-gun in Hanko, one of them is at st Ptersburg in junk yard and some enthusiasts are trying to buy it. For more info if interested mail Mosh@mbnet.fi so I'll see how I can help.

Originally posted by Schrubbery:
A place to start looking for Finnish maps is www.karttapaikka.nls.fi

The site is free (mostly), and it's also in English. They have maps of all scales, but unfortunately most of WWII battlefields are now in Russia. One exception is, however, and that is the battle of Suomussalmi or Raate road.

BryanMelvin · Post by **BryanMelvin** » Fri Oct 27, 2000 5:04 am

I thank all of you for the Great web sites you have shared! This will be an great help!

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MarauderMel