Beginner Questions

[Rekm41]

Beginner Strategy Questions.

Ok, so I would like to start playing the BTR 43 campaign as the Allies. Realizing that it is quite a feat to do so. I have some initial strategy questions.

1. I would think that the bombing raids should be limited to where the Allies have long range fighter coverage at least initially right?

2. Bomber Command bomb at night right?

3. Which targets should they (the Allied) concentrate on initially? For example the 8th Air force should only bomb shorter range targets until longer ranged fighter coverage becomes available?

4. Fighter-Bombers should they do fighter sweeps and/or bomb airfields?

Thanks for your help.

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: rekm41

Beginner Strategy Questions.

Ok, so I would like to start playing the BTR 43 campaign as the Allies. Realizing that it is quite a feat to do so. I have some initial strategy questions.

1. I would think that the bombing raids should be limited to where the Allies have long range fighter coverage at least initially right?

with in reason, but at times, you can swamp the defence, and slip a deeper raid in (but I wouldn't be hitting Berlin in 43, plus, while you may not have the fighters to give 100% coverage, you can stragger part of it, you can set up sweeps to meet it on the way back, plus there are alot of decent targets in France and in the North, that are with in range, until you feel safer about going deep, but remember it is a back and forth type game/battle, some days you going to get the bear, other days, the bear is going to get you, but you do have to wear down the LW

2. Bomber Command bomb at night right?

yes, Bomber Command and 205 Group are Night only units

3. Which targets should they (the Allied) concentrate on initially? For example the 8th Air force should only bomb shorter range targets until longer ranged fighter coverage becomes available?

at times you bomb to hit a target type, other times you bomb, trying to force the LW to come out and play, depends on your style and wants

4. Fighter-Bombers should they do fighter sweeps and/or bomb airfields?

again, more based on your style, or what you want to do, plus FB or Fighter with bombs, can hit the smaller target and do damage (radar, Troops, Airfields, some factories) but you want to watch out for Flak Traps, low level AA and Aircraft, don't mix

Thanks for your help.

[Rekm41]

Thanks once again for your help Sarge. So many choices in this fine game. Hard to figure things out sometimes. I am sure I will have more questions.

[Hard Sarge]

I am sure someone will be around to give there point of view

and even better, none of them are prefect or, the best way, or the only way

[Rekm41]

I sure hope so. I always look for advice. I have been reading the AAR's but not as much help in there as other games. Probably due to the fact that there is so many options and choices etc. I guess I am just looking for a good place to start from and go from there.

[Oliver Heindorf]

question : When I play the 43 campaign,

does the war progresses like 6/44 normandy

does the supreme HQ demands you to bom forces then or does the hq demands taken out some tanks in the area

etc.

is it possible that your good bombing effort will help to end the war earlier

etc.


thank you

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf

question : When I play the 43 campaign,

does the war progresses like 6/44 normandy

if you mean, will there be landings, when there should be landings ? with in reason, from the old forum, you may be able to speed it up, or slow it down, for happening

does the supreme HQ demands you to bom forces then or does the hq demands taken out some tanks in the area

you will get Manatory targeting, in this case, OVERLORD, which is a good part of France, with most of the target types that are in France

etc.

is it possible that your good bombing effort will help to end the war earlier

yeap, that is the idea

etc.


thank you

[Oliver Heindorf]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf

question : When I play the 43 campaign,

does the war progresses like 6/44 normandy

if you mean, will there be landings, when there should be landings ? with in reason, from the old forum, you may be able to speed it up, or slow it down, for happening

does the supreme HQ demands you to bom forces then or does the hq demands taken out some tanks in the area

you will get Manatory targeting, in this case, OVERLORD, which is a good part of France, with most of the target types that are in France

etc.

is it possible that your good bombing effort will help to end the war earlier

yeap, that is the idea

etc.


thank you

Does this mean, I HAVE TO play Overlord, to get the mandatory targets - which means that in a 43 Campaign lasting to June 44 I dont get mandatory targets ?

Sorry for sounding stupid but I like the witp/AE approach of "everything" [;)]

Another question : In one AAR I see range circles. [:)]
How do I do that ? [&:]

[mikkey]

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf
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Another question : In one AAR I see range circles. [:)]
How do I do that ? [&:]

if you think Bunyap462 AAR, these range circles are made by hand only in the picture[:(]

[Oliver Heindorf]

ORIGINAL: mikkey

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf
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Another question : In one AAR I see range circles. [:)]
How do I do that ? [&:]

if you think Bunyap462 AAR, these range circles are made by hand only in the picture[:(]

thank you !

oh what a pity - this game needs it very much imho

[Rekm41]

Yea Range circles would be a very handy feature.

[Nicholas Bell]

Does this mean, I HAVE TO play Overlord, to get the mandatory targets - which means that in a 43 Campaign lasting to June 44 I dont get mandatory targets ?

If you are playing the 700 day 1943 campaign, you will get the various mandatory targeting as you move through the campaign. In addition to Overlord targets (spring 1944}, there is also mandatory targeting of V-Weapon sites (Crossbow) and potentially U-boat targets - pens and factories. Inevitably, right when you're hitting your stride and finally having an impact on whatever you've decided to focus on, HQ will force you to bomb something else and give the Germans time to rebuild and recover. [:)]

Reducing the number of tanks and guns produced (the ARM factories) and/or destroying them in the field can potentially speed up the Allied advance into Germany. What makes this simple plan complicated is that you have so many different ways of achieving that other than just bombing those factories, ways which can potentially work much faster in reducing the number of weapons produced (hitting steel, power, chemicals, or rail). Then there is always that pesky Luftwaffe in the way which needs to dealt with first. And likewise many different approaches to reducing it. Everything is interrelated allowing for many different strategic decisions.

[Rekm41]

See attached was wondering what this does during bombing mission planning?

[Richard III]

There seems to be a misunderstanding here ?, perhaps by me ? You do get " ranges " in the Game when plotting missions. There just not circles.

When you plot a target the white outbound line plot comes up in white if it`s in bomb range. When you add the fighter escort you get a green line on top of the white bomber plot line that shows the range of the fighter escort type you picked.

In " Mission Review" you can see the take off and TOT data. FWIW, in BTR you`ll soon find out it`s somewhat unwise to fly the 8th. AF bombers past the escorts max range.

I`m not sure how " Range Circles" would be better ??[:)]

[Rekm41]

I did not realize the info provided by the lines. That said I do not see any green lines for escorts though.

You meant if the escorts can cover the distance you get a green line right? I just tried setting up a mission into Northern France with some Spit escorts and the green line showed up.

Nooby here? [:)]

[Rekm41]

Ok so I have some fighters assigned to this mission and the green line only goes so far. Can I presume then that is where the escort coverage ends?

[Richard III]

Yes, but the distance from the P-38`s base to the assembly area where the mission is launched comes into it. That`s why it`s a good idea to keep the P-38`s bases near the B-17`s / Libs. bases if your going up to France or past Rome in Italy.[;)]

[Rekm41]

Getting a better grasp on this now. Thanks for your help Richard, or should I say my Leige?

[Oliver Heindorf]

[&o] thank you  Mr. Bell and Richard III !

[invernomuto]

Thanks Richard III, very useful info.

Bye