AltHist-A: Shall We Try Again?

[Anthropoid]

ORIGINAL: Randomizer

Austria T1 in.

Could somebody please explain the password thing?  Does implementing a password lock the PBEM policy options?  When I checked, all option boxes were ticked.

Some also have diplomatic PM's.

Cheers

Just right-click on any province in your nation, and you can set your password. That restricts access to your nation, and I would assume also locks the various other PBEM "preferences" (trade, aggressiveness, etc.).

[Anthropoid]

Also can we _please_ get the lineup of nations = players in the first post of the thread updated?

[Anthropoid]

Okay stop the presses! There seems to be a fairly serious problem here. It is the same as it was last turn (turn zero [0]): Some of my units seem to be "stuck" inside Poland.

Russian Army is in Podolia (which is Poland) and it won't move; I also have five unattached Inf and 1 Irr Cav Divisions in Cherkasy (also Poland) that will not move (left-click point to diff prov no arrows show up, left click on the other prov no movey-movey).

To make matters worse, Russian army suffered foraging attrition b/w turn 0 and 1 . . . not huge but some . . .

Crimean Army (in Yekatarineslav, which is Russia) can move.

Best thing might be if I share my PBEM password with someone like Gil and have him open it up and see what he thinks?

[Mus]

You have to violate neutrality to move those forces.

Regarding PBEM Policies, by default all boxes are checked, once you change them they should stay changed however you set them. When you assign a password you have to put that password in from there on when you open the files.

[Anthropoid]

ORIGINAL: Mus

You have to violate neutrality to move those forces.

Regarding PBEM Policies, by default all boxes are checked, once you change them they should stay changed however you set them. When you assign a password you have to put that password in from there on when you open the files.

Well that is annoying, and had I known it I would have moved them last turn [:@]

[Mus]

Yeah, I had some forces stuck in Austrian territory during PBEM 109 before I dropped out because Austria conquered the capital of the lands I was moving through.

It would be nice if the game could tell the difference between moving into or through neutral territory and moving out of it, but it is what is.

BTW has anyone else put their turn in? Would be nice if we knew where we were in regards to people putting in their files.

Also I second the request to update the first page with the new players and their respective countries and also update the first page with the email address we are supposed to send invasion plans to.

[Anthropoid]

RusDone

Also, I really need to know if I can consider "Jager Inftantry" as being equivalent to "Light Infantry." Inititally (maybe only ever) Russia can only build Jagers.

[Mus]

I think Russia can get Light Infantry Doctrine like everyone else, but given that Jaegers kinda split the difference between riflemen and light infantry would make sense if at least some of them could utilize the forager upgrade.

[terje439]

Britain t001 is in as well
(has been for some days as well)

[montesaurus]

Last turn I offered a cease fire to France that didin't go through.

I just sent in my PR turn 1, and once again asked for a cease fire from France.
But, it was weird, because then I went back to France and right clicked and the option to offer a cease fire still came up, but it wouldn't allow me to give it again. THough the first time t did ask me if I was sure I wanted to offer it, and I selected yes.
Maybe France should offer Prussia a cease fire this turn to make sure it goes through.

[terje439]

Britain is not at all impressed with the failure of diplomacy all over Europe, and we would encourage all parts to immediately stop hostilities!

King George VIVIVI of Britain

[Anthropoid]

I wish to make a formal statement to the Prussian leadership.

We frown upon your unwillingness to negotiate fairly with Poland over the exchange of Saxony.

Russia stands ready to defend Poland from partitioning by her avaricious neighbors. Moreover, it is our understanding that Russia is not the only major nation who is committed to preventing the partitioning of Poland. From the Russian standpoint, the autonomy of Poland is non-negotiable, and any attack on Polish autonomy will be considered to be an attack on mother Russia herself.

Let all who would regard Polish territory with avarice stand warned that it will not be only a small and relatively defenseless minor power who you will face if you choose to engage in usurpation (whether militarily or by insurrection) of any Polish provincial territories.

[Mus]

France also urges a negotiated settlement to the ill advised and unprovoked attack on Saxony and Poland.

We also note that we have not received the promised cease fire from Prussia.

[Mus]

ORIGINAL: montesaurus

Last turn I offered a cease fire to France that didin't go through.

Last turn you declared war on Saxony. I think you only have 1 diplomatic action.

BTW what are we waiting on for turn 2? Who doesn't have their turn in?

[montesaurus]

You're right, in retrospect I probably didn't have two diplomatic actions, though I did offer a cease fire. I did'nt realize that the right click action constituted a diplomatic action! I was thinking your "diplomatic action" was handled though the "diplomacy" box. Sorry about that. This turn I did offer a cease fire to France, again as I did last turn.
In regards to giving up Breslau, Prussia is not interested in that. Poland is at least twice as large as Prussia. Just because this second try of Alt Hist it became a Protectorate of Poland(whereas in the first it did'nt), doesn't mean my game strategy was going to change.
This is an issue between Poland and Prussia. Any other countries interfering, as far as Prussia is concerned, contstitutes "bullying".
Prussia will not sit back and let Poland be developed at a rate that it soon would dwarf the small country of Prussia.
If Poland chooses to risk it's high quality troops, vs developing it's backwards nation then so be it.
We await it's assault!

[montesaurus]

By the way, I sent Pr turn in, please let me know if it hadn't been received!

[Anthropoid]

Yeah, what is holding up the game? This one is already getting interesting and it is just out of the starting blocks! [:D]

[Marshal Villars]

Posted by Poniatowski-First Consul of the Commonwealth of Poland

Poland's strategic position is worse than Prussia's. I don't think there are many here who would disagree with this. Poland has its capital directly on the border of two openly hostile nations who are obviously not open to compromise.

Prussia has no claim to Saxon territory which Poland cannot best. Prussia does not gain a claim on Saxony due to its illegal occupation of this land twice in the last 50 years.

Poland and Saxony shared a common ruler for almost 40 of the last 100 years. Additionally, Saxony is actually a Polish protectorate.

If there are any nations of Europe "bullying" it is because they see that Prussia is not willing to make a decent compromise which seems fair (even Britain said this).

If Prussia is interested in its security (as it would appear from the above statement), then its best road would have been compromise. Not lack of compromise alienating half of Europe.

Poniatowski
First Consul of the Polish Commonwealth

[Mus]

ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Yeah, what is holding up the game? This one is already getting interesting and it is just out of the starting blocks! [:D]

Agreed.

This is quite unusual.

Normally players spend a couple dozen turns sharpening their knives before they start cutting each other up. Looks like we are getting down to business in this one.

[:'(]

[Anthropoid]

RusDone PMs sent to the prospective "Warsaw Pact" members.