Cost

[tocaff]

OH NO!  He's currently married.  I hope she won't mind his spending hours on end playing "that game" again.  Just wait until you get the hang of it and then get into PBEM......

[LuckyJim1005]

fabertong - I have and I dont [:)]

Downloading it now.

[CMDRMCTOAST]

I bought UV played for a year, purchased WITP played for 2.5 - 3 years, took 2 years off
and came back to find AE with most of the things added we asked for since UV came out and I still
think I got a great deal for the money as the game keeps improving..
You will luv the game if your strategic minded except for the first year of gettin your a$$ handed to ya..[:D]

[Knavey]

ORIGINAL: LuckyJim1005

fabertong - I have and I dont [:)]

Downloading it now.

Better go find your "last thing to do" while it is downloading. After the install, you will have TOO much to do with this game, and not much time left for anything else.

[Oliver Heindorf]

the old endless discussion. I am tired of it [>:].

Calculate the bang for the buck you receive like Sulu Sea did and you've found the master. And be aware what treespider said !

good luck

[CMDRMCTOAST]

ORIGINAL: Knavey

ORIGINAL: LuckyJim1005

fabertong - I have and I dont [:)]

Downloading it now.

Better go find your "last thing to do" while it is downloading. After the install, you will have TOO much to do with this game, and not much time left for anything else.

Cause you will have days of trying to figure out how this happend too ya..



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/28/44


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Tamanami
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-20
PT PT-235
PT PT-382
PT PT-450, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT PT-478, Shell hits 43, and is sunk
PT PT-484, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Tamanami
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-23
PT PT-24
PT PT-25
PT PT-133, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PT PT-374, Shell hits 33, and is sunk
PT PT-483

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Hatsuzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 1
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-26
PT PT-64
PT PT-300
PT PT-455
PT PT-481, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
PT PT-550, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Tamanami
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-27
PT PT-29
PT PT-40
PT PT-42, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
PT PT-475, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
PT PT-528, Shell hits 5, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Tamanami
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-45
PT PT-46
PT PT-168
PT PT-264
PT PT-315, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
PT PT-333

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-47, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT PT-310
PT PT-311
PT PT-452
PT PT-466, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PT PT-551, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 2
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-62
PT PT-131
PT PT-338
PT PT-376, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PT PT-454, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PT PT-524

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-63
PT PT-65
PT PT-132
PT PT-305
PT PT-313, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
PT PT-469

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 3
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-66
PT PT-73
PT PT-77
PT PT-129
PT PT-249, Shell hits 90, and is sunk
PT PT-462, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsuzuki, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Urakaze
DD Hatsushimo
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-79, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-105
PT PT-106
PT PT-334
PT PT-383
PT PT-472

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami
CL Oi, Shell hits 1
DD Shimakaze, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsushimo, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
PT PT-107
PT PT-108
PT PT-124
PT PT-306
PT PT-332
PT PT-460

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 7
CA Mogami, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Oi
DD Tamanami, on fire, heavy damage
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsushimo, on fire
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-125
PT PT-126, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-137
PT PT-322
PT PT-335
PT PT-476

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami, on fire
CL Oi
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Urakaze, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Hatsushimo, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 6

Allied Ships
PT PT-128
PT PT-130
PT PT-163
PT PT-238
PT PT-381
PT PT-527

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami, on fire
CL Oi
DD Tamanami, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsushimo, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT PT-134
PT PT-138
PT PT-167
PT PT-314
PT PT-463
PT PT-470

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami, on fire
CL Oi
DD Tamanami, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Hatsushimo, and is sunk
DD Satsuki, on fire

Allied Ships
PT PT-169
PT PT-170
PT PT-236
PT PT-237, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
PT PT-465, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
PT PT-529

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Mogami, on fire
CL Oi, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Satsuki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT PT-248
PT PT-250
PT PT-261
PT PT-262, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-341
PT PT-343

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Mogami, on fire
CL Oi, on fire
DD Satsuki, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-263
PT PT-301
PT PT-304
PT PT-307
PT PT-321
PT PT-526

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed
F1M2 Pete: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Mogami, on fire
CL Oi, on fire

Allied Ships
PT PT-308
PT PT-320
PT PT-340
PT PT-377
PT PT-480
PT PT-486, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, on fire
CL Oi, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-309
PT PT-493
PT PT-525
PT PT-531, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PT PT-545
PT PT-548

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT PT-312
PT PT-323
PT PT-324
PT PT-325
PT PT-522, Shell hits 1, on fire
PT PT-547

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT PT-342
PT PT-360
PT PT-361
PT PT-373
PT PT-530, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-532

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT PT-362
PT PT-363
PT PT-372
PT PT-468
PT PT-482
PT PT-496, Shell hits 18, and is sunk

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-451
PT PT-453
PT PT-461
PT PT-485, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PT PT-535
PT PT-544

[stuman]

ORIGINAL: LuckyJim1005

Forgot to say i have been playing Time of Wrath and have found it a little to simple. Not to detract from it, it is a great beer & pretzel game just a little lacking in some Navel aspects so I am looking for something with a bit more bite.

And yes I admit I think it was 'sticker price shock' that kicked in.

If I have 2 more glasses of wine the credit card is coming out [:)]

Missus is going to kill me..

BTW Is it just me or do any of you old time board gamers sit here thinking we are in a great age for PC wargaming ?

Apologies if I annoyed anyone.

Welcome to the cult, err I mean club.

[Cathartes]

If you are not playing AE consider the alternatives: 

1. you might instead go out drinking and it takes no time to spend that kind of money you might otherwise spend on AE.

2. you might be doing chores or exercising, and you could injure yourself, and with the insane cost of health care (in the US) you could be out the equivalent of 6-7 games with just one two-hour ER visit (with insurance and depending on deductible). Hopefully you have a policy that covers non-generic drugs.

Buy AE, for health and prosperity!

[histgamer]

Jesus how many PT boats did you run into? Not exactly a big vet nor am I a WWII historian but I would think from the looks of that your ships just were overwhelmed in a flood of PT boats. 

[CMDRMCTOAST]

ORIGINAL: flanyboy

Jesus how many PT boats did you run into? Not exactly a big vet nor am I a WWII historian but I would think from the looks of that your ships just were overwhelmed in a flood of PT boats. 

That actually happened when WITP just came out like 5 years ago but its a reminder of how you can play this game
over and over and still see new things all the time..

[CMDRMCTOAST]

ORIGINAL: Cathartes

If you are not playing AE consider the alternatives: 

1. you might instead go out drinking and it takes no time to spend that kind of money you might otherwise spend on AE.

2. you might be doing chores or exercising, and you could injure yourself, and with the insane cost of health care (in the US) you could be out the equivalent of 6-7 games with just one two-hour ER visit (with insurance and depending on deductible). Hopefully you have a policy that covers non-generic drugs.

Buy AE, for health and prosperity!

Hmmmm" get injured, stay home from work,,, play AE,,, your good...[&o]

[eMonticello]

ORIGINAL: Cathartes

If you are not playing AE consider the alternatives: 

2. you might be doing chores or exercising, and you could injure yourself, and with the insane cost of health care (in the US) you could be out the equivalent of 6-7 games with just one two-hour ER visit (with insurance and depending on deductible). Hopefully you have a policy that covers non-generic drugs.

Buy AE, for health and prosperity!

I do recommend exercise, even if it's just a walk with your wife at a nice peaceful park. It will give you some valuable time to contemplate your next PBEM move.

[ny59giants]

It only took him 4 hours from the initial post to him actually downloading the game. I think we can get the next "potential" customer down to 2 hours. [:D]

I have 12 other CD games that cover a wide range of WW 2 battles in Europe, the USA Civil War, Fulda Gap, and Arab-Israeli Wars. Since I bought WITP and now AE, they sit in their slots on my computer desk gathering dust. I started out almost 40 years ago playing board games and "had" both the War in Europe and War in the Pacific by SPI from the late 70s. It only took me a few thousand dollars to find this game. [;)]

[witpqs]

Wow - buying already! Given the stuff you heard in this thread, the fact that you then decided to buy gives me >99% confidence you will be pleased.

Welcome! [:)]

[Buck Beach]

ORIGINAL: mullk

I've seen reviewers who have been stunned by the size and scope of AE.  As many have stated this is not for the casual gamer.   I've seen one or two reviews where the reviewer complained about the work and complexity of playing.  This is exactly what some of use are looking for.  As for me and I think some others on this board the price was not an issue.  We might have had to save our pennies to get it but their was never a doubt we were going to get it.  There is simply no other program on the market that covers the subject in the depth and detail that AE does.  The next closest runner up isn't even close.  It would be sort of like comparing TIC-TAC-TOE to 3 dimensional chess.  Tic-Tac-Toe is fun if it's what your looking for but it isn't for me.  This game isn't for the faint of heart or if you hate micromanagement, it's a hard core wargamers game.  I don't want to scare you off I always like to see new blood both to AE and to wargames but I also don't want to talk you into something that isn't going to to be your liking.  If WW2 Pacific theater is your thing NOTHING does it better than AE.

And I would add, if you think the vanilla WITP-AE is loaded with micromanagement (that I love BTW), get ready for "Da Babes" that should blow you away.

[Buck Beach]

ORIGINAL: fabertong

ORIGINAL: LuckyJim1005

Forgot to say i have been playing Time of Wrath and have found it a little to simple. Not to detract from it, it is a great beer & pretzel game just a little lacking in some Navel aspects so I am looking for something with a bit more bite.

And yes I admit I think it was 'sticker price shock' that kicked in.

If I have 2 more glasses of wine the credit card is coming out [:)]


Missus is going to kill me..

BTW Is it just me or do any of you old time board gamers sit here thinking we are in a great age for PC wargaming ?

Apologies if I annoyed anyone.

Have the wine......then buy the game........I doubt you'll regret either.....

You had better be a cat with nine lives because after you get it she will regularly be kicking your butt for spending so much time with it rather than with her. [:D]

[Buck Beach]

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf

the old endless discussion. I am tired of it [>:].

Calculate the bang for the buck you receive like Sulu Sea did and you've found the master. And be aware what treespider said !

good luck

And yet you have been drawn in to reading the post and responding to it.[;)] It happens to me all the time.