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[Grollub]

Just finished "moving in"-party part one of four. It will be a long working day tomorrow ...

[Mynok]

Wasn't London the result of Hitler's maniacal rage after the Brits bombed Berlin?

[Grollub]

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[Grollub]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

For me....i define air superiority and interdiction as operational level missions, designed to enhance and faciliatate an overall campaign. Tactical operations involve ground support missions. The former were generally acheived using the medium bombers primarily (+ DB's), whilest the reverse was true for the ground support component. Strategic bombing targets a nation's heart...it's civilian and industry component.

Seconded.

[Mynok]

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[DuckofTindalos]

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Wasn't London the result of Hitler's maniacal rage after the Brits bombed Berlin?

That's the traditional view, which I don't know enough to contradict. However, the bombing of Warsaw was explicitly ordered to break the morale of the defending Polish forces, the very definition of terror bombing.

[USSAmerica]

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

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Seems to be the Swedish version of "New page. [8D]"

[Mynok]

Ah...I will add that into my translator.....

[Grollub]

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ORIGINAL: Mynok

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Seems to be the Swedish version of "New page. [8D]"

Correct interpretation [8D]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Wasn't London the result of Hitler's maniacal rage after the Brits bombed Berlin?

Well, yes. So? It was Hitler's maniacal rage that prompted him to demand strategic bombing of English populated areas.

IMO, there's some overlap between 'terror bombing' and 'strategic bombing' now, isn't there? "Breaking the people's will" as a strategic bombing goal could be a euphamism for 'burning 'em out'. At least it was in Dresden, Hamburg and Tokyo. Just because the Jerries weren't as efficient firestarters as the Allies doesn't mean they apriori rejected the concept of strategic bombing of populated areas. Their kit just wasn't as useful.

[DuckofTindalos]

Bedtime...[>:][>:][>:][>:]

[Mynok]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Wasn't London the result of Hitler's maniacal rage after the Brits bombed Berlin?

Well, yes. So? It was Hitler's maniacal rage that prompted him to demand strategic bombing of English populated areas.

Which the Luftwaffe did NOT want to do. Thus my point that they certainly acted like they didn't think it was useful.

[thegreatwent]

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[anarchyintheuk]

One of the problems in trying to decipher the LW's role and capability is that there are at least 3 heads (Hitler, Goering, Udet/Milch/etc.) that don't necessarily agree on anything one thing and, at different times, are in actual operating control or can at least influence decisions. Lacking a shared vision you end up with an air force like the LW, excellent in some areas with unneeded or duplicative designs and unsure of what to concentrate production on until too late. Considering that the people in charge of the LW never really agreed on its role, its hard for us to look back 60 years and decide it for them. Just my $.02.

Edited for failing to come to a conclusion.

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: Mynok

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Wasn't London the result of Hitler's maniacal rage after the Brits bombed Berlin?

Well, yes. So? It was Hitler's maniacal rage that prompted him to demand strategic bombing of English populated areas.

Which the Luftwaffe did NOT want to do. Thus my point that they certainly acted like they didn't think it was useful.

I respectfully disagree. Granted, it could be argued that the Eastern Front was a "different war", I would like to point out that the Germans used the bombing of populated areas widely, especially during the opening stages of Barbarossa. The predicted, quite accurately, that it would produce a mass panic effect (which it did to a degree) and interfere with military logistics (which it did to an even greater degree).

The difference between London and, say Minsk, is that the effects were largely dependent on other factors. London was bombed per se, and the effects were largely contained by a concerted, organized network. Minsk was bombed in conjunction with a land advance, disintegrating front, panic stricken command structure and underdeveloped infrastructure, which greatly magnified the effect.

[scott64]

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[Grollub]

G'night gents [>:][>:][>:]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Mynok

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Wasn't London the result of Hitler's maniacal rage after the Brits bombed Berlin?

Well, yes. So? It was Hitler's maniacal rage that prompted him to demand strategic bombing of English populated areas.

Which the Luftwaffe did NOT want to do. Thus my point that they certainly acted like they didn't think it was useful.

Umm...not. WARNING-CIRCULAR LOGIC FOLLOWS: The Luftwaffe DID it, therefore they acted as though they were interested in doing it-because they did. Their inner monologue and philosophical discussions beforehand were, at that point, meaningless.

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: Wolfpack

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