Russians attack Japan early?!

[findmeifyoucan]

I think most Japanese players are taking advantage of a glitch in the game where by all Russian army forces are frozen and that there are no restrictions what so ever on the Japanese armed forces in Manchuria. Moving all those forces out of Manchuria would leave yourself open for attack by Russia. There is a reason why all those Japanese forces were located near the Russian border, to deter an attack. The Russians were afraid they would be attacked so moved forces in. Japan noticed the Russians building up at the border so they in turn sent troops in kind of like East and West Berlin in post WWII.
Even if Russia did not attack and it was unlikely that they would as no one likes to fight a two front war, they would have at least started to withdraw some of their forces from the front and sent them back to the East Front against the Germans. After all they were losing the war against the Germans at that time weren't they?
I am an avid War in Europe, WWII player and would have loved to have seen those quality Russian troops on the German front in mid summer 1941 rather than in the winter of 1942! Quite possibly this may have even shortened the war against Germany and even an earlier surrender of Italy thus freeing up the Mediteranean earlier.
I don't even think adding a border in Manchuria and restricting the Japanese forces there is enough. How about freezing those units like the Russians or at least making the Japanese have the same amount of strength points in Manchuria at all times or else risk an early entry into the war by Russia? Russia may want to attack first before they get attacked. Just like Germany attacked them in the summer of 1941. Does anyone else know that the Russians had actually planned on attacking Germany in the summer of 1942? LOL. If you want the artillery in China fine but you better replace it with something like infantry or armour. I also don't like the fact the Russian army is totally frozen so that he/she can't even move his/her armies to defend against a Japanese build up and eventual attack. The Russians should at least be able to move within their own borders.

Tony
p.s. Something maybe for the next patch? [:-]

[Chickenboy]

I think the 'glitch' of which you speak is the fact that the AI Russians won't activate, even if the Manchuko garrison AV strength is perilously low. Most PBEM human v. human matches require the IJ player to pay PP to move troops out of Manchuko as a basic house rule. If the human IJ player dips below the minimum AV, there's a chance on any given turn that the Russians will activate.

It would be folly for the IJ player to move all mobile troops out of Manchuko and activate the Russians unintentionally in a PBEM. Manchuko would get 'rolled' very quickly absent Japanese LCUs and the Allies would have powerful bases within strategic bombing distance of Japan lickety split. If I were an Allied player, I would hope for this very much.

[CMDRMCTOAST]

its not instantaneus it takes time to actuvate. ( spell much)

[findmeifyoucan]

So, are the Russians guaranteed of activating in a PBEM if the Japanese wtihdraw units out of Manchuria and if so how long does it take to activate?

[stuman]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I think the 'glitch' of which you speak is the fact that the AI Russians won't activate, even if the Manchuko garrison AV strength is perilously low. Most PBEM human v. human matches require the IJ player to pay PP to move troops out of Manchuko as a basic house rule. If the human IJ player dips below the minimum AV, there's a chance on any given turn that the Russians will activate.

It would be folly for the IJ player to move all mobile troops out of Manchuko and activate the Russians unintentionally in a PBEM. Manchuko would get 'rolled' very quickly absent Japanese LCUs and the Allies would have powerful bases within strategic bombing distance of Japan lickety split. If I were an Allied player, I would hope for this very much.

What he said.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: findmeifyoucan

So, are the Russians guaranteed of activating in a PBEM if the Japanese wtihdraw units out of Manchuria and if so how long does it take to activate?

No, there's a 'chance' (although it's not clear how that's calculated) that the Russians will activate with the for every given turn that the Manchuko garrison is undermanned.

[findmeifyoucan]

How is this undermanned thing calculated. Is it based on assault points because if so then you could move unlimited amounts of artillery as they have no assault point value. Am I right?

[Smeulders]

Yes, pulling artillery from Manchuko won't put you under the garrison requirement.

[Barb]

And this couses the unballance in China as all the manchukuo artillery and tanks are crushing the Chinese mercilessly with almost NO cost for Japan. IRL it was unthinkable to move corps artillery and tank units out of Manchukuo for the fears of the russian attack.