ETO - PBEM games

[Mille66]

Sounds great!

Cant wait to start, so hurry up.

[Uxbridge]

As soon as everyone "signs in", I think we can start.

We need somewhere to talk. I don't think Matrix would be overly happy about us using the forum for all the private chat that may result of the game, and therefore suggest that I put up a secret forum on my own website. There we can speak privately about everything going on in our game without the rest of the world listening in.

How do you feel about that?

[Flaviusx]

Surprised nobody else likes playing the commies, but that suits me fine. I'll go ahead and update ETO to incorporate the bug fixes.

Edit: I assume all the house rules stated in your ETO thread are in effect?

[Uxbridge]

The home rules should be in effect, but please tell me if you have any further suggestions.

[keensy52]

Sounds good mate!!

what is your website address?
keensy

#Who starts ?

[Uxbridge]

Uxbridges Website

But I will only create the forum when I have the consent of all players. [:)]

If we are all in agreement regarding set-up and everything else, the two German players will have to make the set-up and begin.

But not yet!

[Harbinger]

Heyo..sorry was afk for a coupla days. USA Eastern time zone. Currently unemployed truck driver, I've played wargames since the early 90's.

I'm not picky about which power I play. Italy is fine.

Holler at me when we're ready.

[Uxbridge]

Ok, Harbinger. Italy and minors it is. [:)]

[17russia]

ORIGINAL: Uxbridge

Ok.

I think I can add Mille, the tenth player, without having consulted him yet. He's a Swede too. Personally I rather have UK this time (haven't played that for a while) and then it will be smart to let Mille be France/USA, placing our turns next to each other, reducing "lag" in the first 50 game turns. We have to play in the same group, of course.

Thus we have:

Uxbridge (Sweden) UK
Gwgardner (USA) no preference yet
cpdeyoung (USA) France/USA
Harbinger (USA) prefers Italy or France/USA
Hairog (USA) Italy
Flaviusx (USA) prefers USSR
Keensey52 (UK) Germany
Edelweis (Canada) UK
17russia (USA) no preference yet
Mille (Sweden) France/USA

Out of this we could form a first group. It would thus be:

Keensey52 (UK) Germany
Uxbridge (Sweden) UK
Mille (Sweden) France/USA
Flaviusx (USA) USSR
Hairog (USA) Italy/Axis minors

This is good, since the game will be rather well spread between USA and Europe, reducing unnecessary time loss. Let's fix this setting for the moment.

Even the second group should thus be ready, lest GW and 17, which haven't choosen their roles yet. It does point sharply towards GW being Uncle Adolph, though. This group will be (almost) all American.

Edelweis (Canada) UK
cpdeyoung (USA) France/USA
Harbinger (USA) Italy/Axis minors

Gwgardner (USA) no preference yet
17russia (USA) no preference yet

17russia, here.
I will take anything you leave on the table. I am in the US but part of my Job entails training 16 groups of people located from Perth to Cairo. Not married or kids. So I keep international & US hours and work mostly from home. I can play anything from an agressive Germany, Italy that loves Iraq, Soviets that build walls to a US that loves sunny France. Not used to PBEM but I can follow directions.

PS;
With this many people we could split Italy & the Axis minors apart. Once Rumania & Hungry get a little SMP & some money they can be very effective.

[Uxbridge]

Once the first two groups get started, there's nothing to prevent building of secondary games, with different player settings or even up to 8 players.

17Russia, GW seems to be out of town. You might therefore have the first pick: USSR or Germany.

[cpdeyoung]

Uxbridge,

When UK start his turn, he use F11 to access "cheats". There he deduct 3000 PP from USA, Belgium and Netherlands. This way he prevents the AI from doing anything particulary stupid with these nations. They are then left to the AI. Once in a while, though, the UK player uses the F11 key at the beginning of the UK turn to activate B and N for movements. When these countries are due, the turn will head back to the UK player and he can add 3000 PPs, buy whatever he opt for (he still needs to keep at least 3000 PPs in the account), moving desired units, and then deduct 3000 PPs again. In the next UK turn the AI is switched back on. I think we could do this once every third month.

Regarding USA, the French player does the same as the UK player above, buying units, adding research, and then switch back to the AI again in his forthcoming French turn. Once France is out of the game, the French player switch over to USA for the duration of the game. The only problem I can see with USA is Lend Lease. But maybe we can just let the USA player move a token of PPs by using F11. Not really top notch, but better than having 6 instead of 5 phases each game turn. We could have a 20 % penalty to simulate Atlantic losses.

I have read this a few times and still wonder about it.

once every third month.

I do not expect the Benelux to last three months, perhaps a week or two more.

I would much prefer if the UK set B, N, & L to French control rather than his own. This is specialy true when they become beligerents. There is a jole about a meal of ham and eggs which is punched with "The chicken is interested, but the pig is committed'. Thus with Benelux, France really cares about these countries. I have no doubt the British player would do what I asked, especially since they need so much from France. Since the British are going to follow the French dictates anyway, why not just let the French do it themselves. They play just after the British in sequence.

Once France is out of the game

The only problem I can see with USA is Lend Lease.

Unless this game takes an incredible turn I can see no problem with the USA handling the lend lease events. What concerns you?

Chuck

[Uxbridge]

France can handle Benelux, no problem. As you say, it is probably better.

Regarding Lend Lease, when USA is inactive and on negative PP, she can't give anything to the British. This is why the LL has to be handled at the same time as the rest of the once-a-month US activity.

Actually, for the second group, playing in Canada and USA, there's probably no point in not having the French/US player taking two turns. It's when we go forth and back between USA and Europe there's problems. We might assume that each player has about 4-5 hours a day when he normally have time to play his turn. These probably appears between 5 pm and 10 pm (in my case it would be 7.30 pm and midnight). When the French player does his turn and sends the file to the American USSR player, there's a 6-10 hours time lag between the execution of the turns. But when the USSR player has played and sends the turn back to the French player (for playing USA), the latter will be well asleep and the next morning he go to work, not getting home until late afternoon. Thus the lag between USA and Europe might be as long as almost 20 hours. Therefore it is desirable that the USA is bypassed as far as it is possible.

The group containing no irritating Europeans, however, may even accomplish several turns a day in some cases. [;)]

[Uxbridge]

ORIGINAL: cpdeyoung

Uxbridge,

When UK start his turn ...

I have read this a few times and still wonder about it.

once every third month.

I do not expect the Benelux to last three months, perhaps a week or two more.



Chuck

Germany is on LWD-level 1 at the beginning of the game, going up to 2 and 3 immediately prior to the historical operation Gelb starting date. France and UK, having completed their mobilization, goes to level 1 around Christmas.

In Poland the German forces, fresh from a major reorganization, was untrained in major operations at a larger scale. This led to a number of major set-backs in Poland, not very apparent to us today because of the brevity of this campaign. After Poland, Hitler wanted to go ahead and attack in the West early, but was prevented from doing this, largely on the ground of the bad weather and the need to restock ammunition. During this interim period, the armed forces, wiser after their failures in Poland, trained their units in larger operations, leading to the very effective army that attacked in the West in May 1940.

In ETO, therefore, the German player may find himself in a very awkward situation if he's too eager to conquer Benelux and France early. Against the AI, maybe not a problem; against a real opponent, well ...

[Hairog]

I'm ready to go. I'll need to download ETO. I'll do that now.

Email hkellogg36@gmail.com

[gwgardner]

haha, not out of town. wasn't paying attention to the esoterica. I'll take any country and beat you all like a drum. let me know.

[micheljq]

ORIGINAL: edelweiss75

Am 34, i live in Québec city.Am a CNC metal brake operator.I have been playing wargames for 20 years, learn it from playing Axis&Allies boardgame.

I would like to play Great Britain.

Salut Edelweiss je suis de Québec moi aussi.

[edelweiss75]

Salut Mec, c'est bon de savoir que je suis pas le seul "Quebecker" sur ce forum!

[keensy52]

whats the current situation at moment?
itching to get started.

no rush though
keensy

[Uxbridge]

Only some minor issues to deal with before we start, Keensey. [:)]

I do think we have our two groups, however - one American and one European/American. Since the second one was first to form, I will refer to that as Group 1 (G1). The other is G2.

Since GW was a bit boastful, let's get him Germany. Then 17Russia is USSR.

G1:

Keensey52 (UK) Germany
Uxbridge (Sweden) UK
Mille (Sweden) France/USA
Flaviusx (USA) USSR
Hairog (USA) Italy/Axis minors

G2:

Gwgardner (USA) Germany
Edelweis (Canada) UK
cpdeyoung (USA) France/USA
17russia (USA) USSR
Harbinger (USA) Italy/Axis minors

I now want Flaviusx, Keensey and Hairog to send me your e-mail adresses, full names and the perefered password you like to use to me via personal messages. I will then create a forum on my website for the game. The reason for this and not using Matrix' forum is that we're going to talk in a way that isn't always very interesting for this community and that I like to have a continual report each time a game turn is passed on. This way we all know where the file is.

If the members of G2 like to be included in this scheme as well, just do as the other three above. But decide about this between yourselves first. If both groups uses my site for the communication, however, we'll start three threads: one for each game plus an additional one for general talk between all players. All player will of course be able to see how things stand in the other game.

How about that?

[gwgardner]

Are the 'minor issues' related to the actual mod? If not, I'll start off.