Anybody Big Ten fans?

[axisandallies]

ORIGINAL: Gil R.

WCS is headquartered in Ann Arbor (well, Scio Township, just beyond its boundary) and we all went to Michigan. I'll let you all connect the dots...

How about them Hawkeyes, not to bad aye?

[Chijohnaok2]

ORIGINAL: Sarge

ORIGINAL: Yogi the Great
My brother went to Illinois, I remember going to a football game and seeing Chief Illini. I thought the decision to get rid of him was stupid.

Illini had no choice, NCAA pegged the Chief hostile and abusive then proceeded to ban all post season games from the university across the board not just football all NCAA activities till the removal of the mascot .


hostile and abusive ………[8|]

Chief was still there while I was attending school. IMHO, his presentation was dignified. He was not a typical "mascot" in that he did not try to get the fans to cheer; he didn't run up and down the sidelines during the game; was not a "rah-rah" figure. He came out at halftime of Illini football and basketbal games and performed a dance.

I felt the NCAA was wrong in the actions they took.

Florida State University retains its "Seminole" nickname and its Chief Osceoloa mascot, in part due to the official support of the Florida Seminole Indian tribe.

[Gil R.]

ORIGINAL: axisandallies

ORIGINAL: Gil R.

WCS is headquartered in Ann Arbor (well, Scio Township, just beyond its boundary) and we all went to Michigan. I'll let you all connect the dots...

How about them Hawkeyes, not to bad aye?

Well, that sucked. But to me, 30-28 is within the margin of error. I demand a recount!

[JWW]

Interestingly, poll data showed most Native Americans favored Indian mascots, even the Washington Redskins mascot.  This was a solution for a problem that did not exist except in the minds of a small minority of a small minority.  My wife and daughter btw are of Native American ancestry, with documents to prove it, meaning not the "Well, my great-grandma was an Indian" variety.  They thought the mascot thing was absurd.  And how exactly has it improved the lives of Native Americans?

[martok]

The Minnesota Gophers (my home state)....even if they are perennial losers.

[axisandallies]

ORIGINAL: Gil R.

ORIGINAL: axisandallies

ORIGINAL: Gil R.

WCS is headquartered in Ann Arbor (well, Scio Township, just beyond its boundary) and we all went to Michigan. I'll let you all connect the dots...

How about them Hawkeyes, not to bad aye?

Well, that sucked. But to me, 30-28 is within the margin of error. I demand a recount!

LOL, we even gave you six points!!

[axisandallies]

Bump +1 to the Iowa Hawkeyes

[Gil R.]

I'll bet that Iowa couldn't score more than sixty points against the Delaware State Hornets. Sadly, I'll never get to prove it...

[Cheeks]

If Ohio State doesn't bench Pryor we're going to be pushed out of the rankings.

[axisandallies]

Bump+2 to the Hawkeyes, we did what the Persians couldn't, defeated the men of Sparta in open battle.

[axisandallies]

Bump+3 for the Iowa Hawkeyes. Leadership is everything.

[madgamer2]

Big Ten What? LOL

Madgamer

[Paul Vebber]

I'm a Wisconsin Alum so...I always root for the Badgers. And as one of my co-workers is a Boilermaker, this past week was especially enjoyed

[milkweg]

I was watching Big Ten woman's soccer just the other day. These women play soccer like it is ice hockey, 2 injuries in the first five minutes. I'm in Canada and was surprised to even see that I had access to that station.

[Anonymous]

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[JWW]

Big Ten fans, at least you don't have the problem of corrupt officiating we have in the SEC, at least as far as I know.  Here is a good example from yesterday's LSU-Bama game. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abuCLF7hJ6s

For the record, yes, I'm an LSU fan.  But I had already seen that Bama had a slightly better team and was probably going to win the game anyway, and then this happened.  And even if LSU had gotten the ball, it would have been very difficult to drive it down against the Bama defense, especially with Jefferson and Scott injured.  All that I stipulate.  Still, something is rotten in the SEC.

[hgilmer3]

I'm an Alabama fan and no there isn't any corruption in the SEC.  If we went around saying there was corruption every time a play didn't go our way, Alabama would have been doing it long ago.

Note: LSU defender in 2004 pushing our receiver out of the way and getting an interception. A replay of it showed it was clearly PI.  But, we didn't scream "Corruption in the SEC!!!"

[JWW]

I'm an LSU fan, and there is corruption in the SEC officiating. You should google LSU Alabama interception or just SEC officials and read what national sports columnists are saying today.

Since you wanted to jump in, I'll also not the 5.5 yard markoff for running into the kicker on 4th down that created a 4th and even shorter for Bama on that drive.

And let's see, the interference waved off against Bama when the LSU QB threw the ball out of bounds in the fourth quarter -- a good call btw -- when the officials let the interference call stand against LSU in the first half on a virtually identical play when the Bama QB threw the ball out of bounds. Both were clearly uncatchable. But only LSU drew a penalty.

And the spearing on Jefferson, the crown of the helmet to the chest, that wasn't called.

I could discuss the calls in Bama-Tennessee or in Florida-Arkansas, but I won't. You already know about those.

As for corruption, Bama has been the master of it for decades in the SEC.

Like I said, Bama had a better team. Too bad LSU didn't get a fair chance to take them on, though. Or Tennessee.

Edit: Here's a little read for you.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... -officials

ORIGINAL: hgilmer3

I'm an Alabama fan and no there isn't any corruption in the SEC.  If we went around saying there was corruption every time a play didn't go our way, Alabama would have been doing it long ago.

Note: LSU defender in 2004 pushing our receiver out of the way and getting an interception. A replay of it showed it was clearly PI.  But, we didn't scream "Corruption in the SEC!!!"

[JWW]

Here's the 5.5 yard penalty.  Really kind of funny in retrospect.  But instead of punting, Bama went for and made the 4th and inches.  Granted, they likely would have gone for and likely made a 4th and one also.  And, yes, it was noticed at the time by LSU folks.  

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114 ... cheats.png

Edit: How SEC refs spot the ball. Looks like he had a pretty good look at it, too. Jefferson ran past the line and got driven back. Ref apparently did not see him run past the line. Probably checking his watch.



And some more reading on SEC officiating in the game and through the season from Sporting News and Sports Illustrated.

[hgilmer3]

ORIGINAL: JW

I'm an LSU fan, and there is corruption in the SEC officiating. You should google LSU Alabama interception or just SEC officials and read what national sports columnists are saying today.

Since you wanted to jump in, I'll also not the 5.5 yard markoff for running into the kicker on 4th down that created a 4th and even shorter for Bama on that drive.

And let's see, the interference waved off against Bama when the LSU QB threw the ball out of bounds in the fourth quarter -- a good call btw -- when the officials let the interference call stand against LSU in the first half on a virtually identical play when the Bama QB threw the ball out of bounds. Both were clearly uncatchable. But only LSU drew a penalty.

And the spearing on Jefferson, the crown of the helmet to the chest, that wasn't called.

I could discuss the calls in Bama-Tennessee or in Florida-Arkansas, but I won't. You already know about those.

As for corruption, Bama has been the master of it for decades in the SEC.

Like I said, Bama had a better team. Too bad LSU didn't get a fair chance to take them on, though. Or Tennessee.

Edit: Here's a little read for you.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... -officials

ORIGINAL: hgilmer3

I'm an Alabama fan and no there isn't any corruption in the SEC.  If we went around saying there was corruption every time a play didn't go our way, Alabama would have been doing it long ago.

Note: LSU defender in 2004 pushing our receiver out of the way and getting an interception. A replay of it showed it was clearly PI.  But, we didn't scream "Corruption in the SEC!!!"

Um, if they wanted to "give us the game" then why didn't they just call it roughing the kicker? That is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever heard. "No, we wanted to give Alabama the game so instead of calling roughing the kicker which we probably should have since his leg was still up in the air, we decided to "give" them a half a yard so they could go for it on 4th down."

Are you truly listening to what you are saying?

And yes, I jumped in when someone is making silly sad arguments, someone must counter those silly sad arguments in the interest of sanity.

There were 2 PI's that weren't called on LSU. The downing of the ball inside the 1 was touched by an LSU player and should have been marked on the 5. The safety should not have been called. The ball was within 2-3 yards of Mark Ingram. There was a pass to Brad Smelley that was called not a catch that probably should have been called a catch. We had a slew of penalties called on us at home against South Carolina.

This charge of corruption is one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen.