One combat round

[sapper32]

Hi all thought i would post my thoughts on my turn 11 playing EA PBEM my Red Army has Helsinki in its sights the Finns helped by Sweeden have thrown up a defensive ring to protect the capital generaly the terrain favours the defender so i was a bit cheesed off when my turn ended after one combat round,My turn consisted of the Red Airforce conducting two airfield attacks,two bridge attacks and bombing Axis units also i had one land unit attacking on limited attack/minimise losses all units had full MP i did notice the land unit was in the red? ive no idea why i only had one round any ideas would be great guys,unfortunatly i havent got a save of my turn before the attack was resolved next turn i will save before i attack.

[el cid]

Did you looked at the combat report?

I also had one turn only recently in a game where I only conducted artillery attacks. All the stars where gold before I hit the combat resolution battle?

[sapper32]

Cant remember what the combat report said the MotorizedCorps that attacked had 12 of 12 mp and i think had 3%losses,and all my stars where gold before i hit the resolve button,One of my air attacks suffered 13% losses but wasnt realy paying attention to see if there was any continue attack by the air units can they do that???

Have just looked at the end of turn sal file and the Motorized Corps ended the turn with 9 of its 12 mp so its got to be somthing to do with the air attacks

[el cid]

Well, there are two reasons why the turn would end:
- failed proficiency check
- units that participated in combat have less than 20% of their Movement points, in average.

I do not know if air units count on this last one.

[ogar]

Well, count me in -- I've had a one-rounder recently, but in my case, it was the air units, and my fault for not checking on them. (Reinforcements w default 'limited' plus some left-overs still set on limited from my previous turn, combined with what was probably one or more defenders set on ignore, led to the dreaded '789th FighterBomber Group continues the attack, continues the attack, continues the attack...') Defender evaporated, but that was not the point of all the careful min. arty only attacks also going on.

So, I suspect the air units here as well.
And I think El Cid's second option is the key.

Check out the online help for 'formation proficiency '. It writes of a formation failing a round-ending check when the units average quality falls low enough and the number of such units is smaller than a number {1, max_units_in_formation}, leading to formation reconstitution.

That said, I'm far more fussy about checking out air units each turn than is either useful or socially acceptable; have not had another one of these surprises since then. But I am not sure that is a guarantee to never hittting another one of these.

[ogar]

Well, that should teach me not to reply to posts....

just hit another one-rounder. BUT
I am not too surprised it occurred and I cannot blame the air units -- Marne 1914 and there's no air forces. I'm the Allies against a PO Central Powers.

About 70% thru this scenario, and a lot of my Allies are showing more red lights than the LIE on a Friday afternoon, so I planned on a bit of artillery and a little min loss probing, but mostly resting and regrouping. Still had a couple of corps I had only moved about 20 % of their 6 MP in the strat. reserve, so there were units with MP left. No log this time, and I did not notice any '...continues the attack...' news items, but I did get some 4%, 6% losses even with the ml and ml/la settings. This time, I am not too surprised about the sudden end; but I do suspect the formation proficiency check as the failure point.

(I know this doesnt get the RKKA back and fighting any faster for sapper32, but I figure more data cannot hurt.)

[sapper32]

Ouch i hate them the terrain in Finnland is poor for movment so im attacking straight away to make sure i get somewhere,sometimes i get one combat round somtimes three anyway hope your campain on the Marne is going well