Test game: Micke II/Rominet

[rominet]

Hi everybody

Micke II and I, we begin a test game on GC scenario 2.
Micke II with the japs and i with the Allies.

Test game means that even if we will play seriously, we are still in learning phase so we will probably make a lot of mistake and as myself a modder of WitP, i want to have a good overwiew of AE to see what is good and what is less good.

So, don't expect a beautiful AAR (i have already an other AAR of WitP on this forum) but mainly combat reports and comments.

Here are the options we choose:

FOW: YES
Advanced weather effects: YES
Allied damage control: YES
Player def. upgrades: YES
Historical first turn : YES (le tour du 7 se déroule automatiquement)
December 7th surprise: YES
Reliable USN torpedoes: NO
Realistic R§D: NO
No unit withdrawals: NO
Allied and japanese reinforcement: variable (+/- 15 days)
Auto sub ops: NO
Set all facilities to expand at start: NO
Automatic upgrade ships and air groups: NO
Accept air and ground replacement: NO
Turn cycle: 1


and the house rules


1) Allied units in China (groud and air) must be under "China command" ou some other subordinated HQ.
These units can't leave China.
Air units under other HQ can transit by China but must be "stand down".

2) Same for the japs with "China Expeditionary".
(only exception for jap unit under other command and in China at the beginning of the scenario)

3) No micro invasion by SS.

4) No more than one air unit flying a mine laying air mission per turn.

5) At least for this first game, no strategic bombardement of China. This may be changed during the game.

6) Strategic bombardment of DEI allowed but if i see that it is as efficient as it is with WitP, i'll stop.

7) As with WitP, 4E never below 10000.

8) No west allied or chinese unit in URSS and vice versa.

9) Float plane on board jap SS must be Glen.

10) We will test night air mission and maintain them if they are as unefficient as there are in WitP.

11) Realistic factories.
I don't know yet if my opponent choose realistic or unrealistic R§D [&:] but i don't mind.

[rominet]

I am reporting only interesting combat reports.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41

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Midget Sub attack failed


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Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 68
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 126



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 14 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 5 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 6 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 19 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 4 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 2 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 4 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 5 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB California, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CM Oglala
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
PC Tiger, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
CL Helena, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DM Tracy
DD Phelps, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AV Wright
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AE Pyro, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
AR Medusa, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
DD Allen, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DM Ramsay, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hull, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Worden, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Taney, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Shaw
AVP Avocet, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AG Argonne, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Conyngham, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CA New Orleans, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Monaghan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1
DM Preble, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires


Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Airbase hits 48
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 212

That seems good!!

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Morning Air attack on Iba , at 78,75

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 6000 feet

This sweep occurs AFTER a previous jap strike on Iba.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 52,82

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 9



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged


Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
BC Repulse



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo


High % of plane losses due to Flak

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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Montanes, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Mauban, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Ships are easily sunk.


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Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 17



Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Kelantan


Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-Ia Oscar attacking from 100 feet

Once again, this sweep and strafe occured AFTER a previous raid on Georgetown with Sally unescorted.

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 36
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 10000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 94 minutes

Very realistic strike

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 1
xAK Chilka, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Hermelin, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Chaksang, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Agnes, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Indira, Bomb hits 3, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Very efficient strike. Probably a lot of small bombs hits

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 52,82

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 27



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 20 damaged


Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
BC Repulse, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
26 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
G3M2 Nell x 36



Allied aircraft
P-26A x 4
P-40B Warhawk x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
P-35A: 2 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 64

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
8 x A6M2 Zero diving from 6000'
Airfield Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
6th PS PAAC with P-26A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
24th PG/Hq Sqn with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes

Small dogfight, sounds good.


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 14



Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 4
Blenheim IV x 6
Buffalo I x 12
Hudson I x 7


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
AK Sakura Maru



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
6 x Blenheim IV bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x Blenheim I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
77th Sentai Det A with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

Very nice strike; most planes are only damaged


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 52,82

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 17 damaged

Allied aircraft losses

Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Electra, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

Well, a little bit disappointed by the fact that the scenario forced to make the same mistake Sir Tom Phillips did but on the other side, no one was making such a historical mistake with WitP, so that's ok.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 52,82

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 79 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 9



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied Ships
DD Tenedos



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes

Last raid on Z force



This first turn gives me a good impression of the game.
Dogfights are far less lethal than in WitP.

[rominet]

I begin my first turn and fist shock: nearly not plane replacement.
Here are the screen:

for USSAF, only 60 fighters a month and not so much later.


for USN, nearly the same. 21 SBD, great.
But, quite a few for Kingfisher, i will make big Kigfisher raids.[:D]

The F4F-4 prod is starting only in march.

Now, we enter in the Lewis Caroll world of US pilots:



My question is: how many USN pilots were lost during all war in Pacific?
I would be surprised it would be more than 2000 or 3000.

So, with about 7000 pilots at start and 600 in addition per month, i would have conquered the entire solar system ... if i had planes.[:(]

[rominet]

An other strange thing with Canadians:

the Stranraer don't have any prod, only 21 in pool.
No upgrade before december 42, it will be in Canso.

There is a very small Catalina factory at Vancouver (3).
But they won't be used by actual Stranraer units, there is no upgrade for this.
Only one unit with Catalina I appears in the reinforcement screen for Canadians: No.413 Sqn RAF [&:](at Aden).

I checked in the editor, it is really a canadian units so it should be able to receive Catalina replacements from Vancouver factory.

Conclusion: take care of our Stranraer!!

[rominet]

Small correction: the Catalina's factory at Vancouver is not a canadian factory but a british one.
So, i am not sure that the Catalinas produced will be able to replace the No.413 Sqn RAF unit which is a canadian unit.

[GB68]

^ United States
Total U. S. military deaths in battle and from other causes were 416,837 The breakout by service is as follows, Army 318,274 [78], Navy 62,614, [78], Marine Corps 24,511 [78], United States Coast Guard 1,917. [16,584-591]. and United States Merchant Marine 9,521.[79]. Deaths in battle were 292,131 The breakout by service is as follows, Army 234, 874 [78], Navy 36,950, [78], Marine Corps 19,733 [78], United States Coast Guard 574. [109] [16,584-591]. These losses were incurred during the period 12/1/41 until 12/31/46 including an additional 126 men in October 1941 when the USS Kearny and the USS Reuben James were attacked by U-Boats. The United States Army Air Forces losses, which are included in the Army total, were 52,173 deaths due to combat and 35,946 from non combat causes[69].U.S. Combat Dead by Theater of war - Europe-Atlantic 183,588; Army ground forces 141,088; United States Army Air Forces 36,461 and Navy/Coast Guard 6,039; Asia-Pacific 108,504; Army ground forces 41,592; United States Army Air Forces 15,694; Navy/Coast Guard 31,485; Marine Corps 19,733. Unidentified Theatres- Army 39[69] [16,584-591]. Included in combat deaths are 14,059 POWs, in Europe (1,124) and (12,935) in Asia[16,584-591].
The details of U.S. casualties are listed online: The US Army[110]. The U.S. Army Air Force [111]. The U.S. Navy and Marine Corps [112]. The U.S. Merchant Marine [113]
Civilian dead were 1,704 American civilians interned, by the Japanese(1,536) and in Europe (168), which are the subject of a U.S. Congressional Research Service report. Go to page CRS-11[114]. During the Attack on Pearl Harbor 68 U.S. civilians were killed by friendly fire[16,552] and 6 U.S. civilians were killed in Oregon in 1945 by Japanese balloon bombs [16,580].
The names of individual U.S. military personnel killed in World War II can be found at the U.S. National Archives website [115]
The names of U.S. Merchant Mariners killed in World War II can be found at the USMM website [116]
The names of the 6,043 US military personnel buried at sea, during World War II, are listed at[117] {broken down as US Army 368; US Army Air Forces 33; USMC 1,042; US Navy 4,600}.
The names of the 74,384 of the US personnel, who served in World War II, whose remains not recovered are listed at [118] {Broken down as US Army 17,096; US Army Air Forces 20,683; USMC 3,119; US Navy 32,636; Civilians 850}.

Excerpt from Wiki page.

Assuming pilots are large proportion of USAAF and perhaps a small porportion of Navy and Marine casualities. It still seems to me the pilot pools for the Americans are somewhat oversized?

[rominet]

Thanks for information GB68!

I think you are right:
Asia-Pacific 108,504; Army ground forces 41,592; United States Army Air Forces 15,694; Navy/Coast Guard 31,485; Marine Corps 19,733.

If you supposed that 1% of casualties from Navy/Coast Guard and Marine Corps were pilots, it gives:

Navy pilots KIA: 3000
Marine Corps pilots KIA: 2000
USAAF pilots KIA: 15694
if 1% is a good valuation.

So, USN pilots replacement and start pool is largely overestimated;
USMC pilots replacement and start pool is still overestimated;
USAAF pilots replacement and start pool seems good.

To my oppinion, it would be more realistic to have very few pilots in pool at the beginning and appropriate replacement pool.


A last word on Catalina's production at Vancouver, i confirm they are british so they won't be able to fill the No.413 Sqn RAF.
Something to be fixed here.

[rominet]

I just discovered that when i make a air unit transfert, the damaged planes are automatically sent in the reinforcement box toward the base targeted and with a delay (i supposed to be proportional to the distance travelled). Nice!!

It would be a good thing too if, in the case of long distance transfert, some king of air missions (raids)
wouln't be able to be performed by the air unit in the same turn.
I don't know if it is the case with AE.

[rominet]

message edited

[Smeulders]

All Stanrear units upgrade to Canso A, which become available from 12/42 onwards, so the 21 should get you through the year just fine.
The No.413 RAF squadron is a Canadian unit, so it will use Canadian pilots, but if you look in the editor, they fly the British Catalina, so will receive their replacement planes from British pools.
Edit: The same is true for all those Aus and NZ units flying Buffaloes in Malaya

[rominet]

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

All Stanrear units upgrade to Canso A, which become available from 12/42 onwards, so the 21 should get you through the year just fine.
The No.413 RAF squadron is a Canadian unit, so it will use Canadian pilots, but if you look in the editor, they fly the British Catalina, so will receive their replacement planes from British pools.
Edit: The same is true for all those Aus and NZ units flying Buffaloes in Malaya

That's true, i have checked, thanks!

[rominet]

Here are the respective productions for the 3 areas USA/Canada, Australia/New Zeland (i forgott very small pacific prod) and India (without Burma):


USA/Canada production centers:

Res = 4780
Oil = 2610
LI = 3500
Ref = 2610
HI = 1520

There is an excess of Res for LI and HI.
So, after calculus, there is an excess of 9000 supply and 20000 fuel per day.


Australia/New Zeland:

Res = 3060
Oil = 5
LI = 2400
Raf = 55
HI = 1200

Again, Res is in escess.
So a total of 4800 supply at the cost of 2400 fuel or
2400 supply only in excess if there is no fuel.


India:

Res = 3160
Oil = 90
LI = 1920
Raf = 90
HI = 1390

Res still in excess.
Total = 4800 supply - 2000 fuel or
2800 supply if there is no fuel.


Conclusion: South Pac and India are lacking of fuel.
As it is not possible to stop HI centers to use fuel ( tm.asp?m=2228174 ),
these 2 areas will quickly be completely out of fuel if they don't receive it from outside.

For India, it is easy as Abadan is near and produce 15000 fuel a day.
But, for South Pac, the fuel must come from USA, it is an other story.


PS: in all calculus i did, i didn't take into account of spoilage due to road transfert.

[Micke II]

Second turn:


Due to the rather poor results of the initial raid on Pearl Harbor with only one battleship sunked I decided to send a second raid.
Inspection of the torpedoes stock of the KB CV shows that 2 CV have not used their torpedoes during the initial raid.
So it's also the reason why I sent a second raid. Air losses were of course heavier during this second raid with a US CAP rather efficient plunging from 33 000 feet on the Zeros escorting the bombers at 15 000 feet.
The results of this second raid were better with 4 more battleships sunked but to my surprise the 2 same CV which has not launched torpedoes during the first raid have not used them during the second raid !
Does somebody knows the reason ? Is there an explanation or a bug ?

[rominet]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 08, 41

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Submarine attack near Midway Island at 160,94

Japanese Ships
AO Shiriya

Allied Ships
SS Argonaut



AO Shiriya is sighted by SS Argonaut
SS Argonaut launches 4 torpedoes

I don't know if this AO is alone but it takes big risks

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Submarine attack near Laysan Island at 161,95

Japanese Ships
AO Shiriya, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Argonaut



AO Shiriya is sighted by SS Argonaut
SS Argonaut launches 4 torpedoes

Now, that's over. A ship without any escort has nearly no chance to survive if it encounters a sub
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Siquijor at 78,87, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze

Allied Ships
xAKL Kanlaon II
xAKL Latouche



Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 30,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat

As Micke II said, these 2 fleet avoided each other. Very good!!
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Morning Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 21



Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 2000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Arrf, i forgott to put those fighters in CAP; in fact, i completely forgott Wake during this huge first turn
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,61

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Hanyang
MTB 11
xAK Haraldsvang, Bomb hits 1
xAK Fatshan



Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,61

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida x 6
Ki-44 Tojo x 6
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 7
Ki-51 Sonia x 17



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Haraldsvang, on fire
xAK Fatshan
MTB 12
xAK Nanning, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires



Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 15000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Nanning

These fleets should had left Honk Hong during this turn but they staid because of air threat and i kept a too large security level
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 4



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 41


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed




CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (6 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (7 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 29000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes

Unescorted bombers are lost

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Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 64
B5N2 Kate x 106
D3A1 Val x 102



Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-36A Mohawk x 26
P-40B Warhawk x 40
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 12 destroyed, 34 damaged
D3A1 Val: 15 destroyed, 27 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Helena, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage
DD Hull, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD MacDonough, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CA New Orleans, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Ralph Talbot, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
BB Pennsylvania, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 23
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
27 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
14 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
16 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
14 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
22 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
VMF-211 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/19th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/44th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/45th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/47th PS with P-40B Warhawk (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/72nd PS with P-26A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27400
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/78th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/Hq Sqn with P-36A Mohawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead

Micke II launched a second raid on PH; he was thinking that the first one was not enough; i don't agree;
the first raid managed to sink 1 BB, 1 other should have sunk alone without any help (and it occured) and 5 other BB were very very badly damaged, so we are very near historical damage.
This second raid sinks 3 other BB, that's give 5 BB lost in 2 days. At least, our fighters did good job

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Ground combat at Kota Bharu (51,75)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5892 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 174

Defending force 4466 troops, 40 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 131

Japanese adjusted assault: 246

Allied adjusted defense: 8

Japanese assault odds: 30 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kota Bharu !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
8047 casualties reported
Squads: 312 destroyed, 66 disabled
Non Combat: 347 destroyed, 100 disabled
Engineers: 51 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 56 (54 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
56th Infantry Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
5th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
FMSV Brigade
8th Indian Brigade
3rd ISF Base Force

2 of the 3 allied units surrendered even if they were not surrounded. The third unit can't move because it is too disorganised now
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[rominet]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 09, 41
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Submarine attack near Iloilo at 78,82

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
xAK Governor Wright, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage


xAK Governor Wright is sighted by SS I-124
SS I-124 attacking on the surface

Ship without escort = ship lost

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TF 61 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Ships
SS I-166, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

In fact, as Micke II told me, this SS had a reaction range of 6. That's why it enters the Singapore's minefield, by reaction. Bad idea. We have to take care of this fact.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Siquijor at 76,87, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze

Allied Ships
xAKL Kanlaon II
xAKL Latouche



Reduced visibility due to Rain with 67% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 67% moonlight: 5,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat

As usual, these fleets avoided themselves[&o]

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TF 51 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Ships
SS I-154, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

A other jap SS in minefields

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Submarine attack near San Jose at 77,84

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
xAKL Sarangami, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage


xAKL Sarangami is sighted by SS I-124
SS I-124 attacking on the surface
SS I-124 low on gun ammo, Nagaishi E. breaks off surface engagement and submerges

[:(]

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Naval bombardment of Midway Island at 158,91 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Ushio
DD Sazanami


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


DD Ushio firing at 6th Marine Defense Battalion
DD Sazanami firing at 6th Marine Defense Battalion

Midway's bombardment

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Vigan at 80,73

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 9



Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Bunzan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Naka

Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
50th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

First successful allied raid, the beginning of a long serie [:D]

[rominet]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 10, 41

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Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-155, hits 1

Allied Ships
xAKL Shinai, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage



xAKL Shinai is sighted by SS I-155
SS I-155 attacking on the surface

at least, the freighter managed to hit the sub

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 75,71, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
CL Kiso
CL Oi
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze
DD Yugao
DD Urukaze
DD Tatsuyuke

Allied Ships
xAKL Chengtu
xAKL Joan Moller
xAKL Soochow
xAKL Yat Shing
MTB 7
MTB 8



Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 21,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Allied Escort TF evades combat

These 2 TF didn't see each other. Range bigger than visibility. Very nice [&o]

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 70



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 13
P-40B Warhawk x 15
P-40E Warhawk x 46


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
26 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *
6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *

CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (6 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (6 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
24th PG/Hq Sqn with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes

Dogfights at the same altitude 20000. Seems realistic

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 160 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 8
P-40B Warhawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 33


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed



CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (5 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (2 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (6 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

It is not the first time i see fighter sweep in 2 raid, the second with 3 planes only. A trouble in the routine???? [&:]

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 7
P-40B Warhawk x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 33


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *

CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 32400.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes

A deadly day for fighter

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 68,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Neptuna
AVD Childs
PG Isabel
xAP Rochambeau, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
[:(]

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Submarine attack near Batavia at 49,98

Japanese Ships
SS I-155

Allied Ships
xAP Van Imhoff, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



SS I-155 is sighted by xAP Van Imhoff
SS I-155 launches 8 torpedoes at xAP Van Imhoff

There is a problem here. Why jap sub commander sent 8 torpedoes for a freighter. Japanese doctrine should allow him only one torpedo for such target.

[rominet]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 11, 41

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-9
DMS W-10
DMS W-11
DMS W-12
DMS W-17
DMS W-18
PB Kyo Maru #12, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #13
SC Ch 4, heavy damage
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 6
SC Ch 10
SC Ch 11
SC Ch 12
SC Ch 16
SC Ch 17
SC Ch 18
xAK Brisbane Maru
xAK Hawaii Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Sanko Maru
xAK Takao Maru
xAK Shinko Maru

Allied Ships
PT-31
PT-32
PT-33, Shell hits 2, and is sunk



Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 46% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 5,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 4,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 4,000 yards
PB Kyo Maru #12 engages PT-33 at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
- escorted by PB Kyo Maru #12 , SC Ch 18 , SC Ch 17 ,
SC Ch 16 , SC Ch 11
PB Kyo Maru #13 engages PT-33 at 3,000 yards
DMS W-18 engages PT-31 at 3,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
- escorted by PB Kyo Maru #13 , SC Ch 18 , SC Ch 10 ,
SC Ch 5
DMS W-18 engages PT-33 at 3,000 yards
DMS W-12 engages PT-33 at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
PB Kyo Maru #13 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
SC Ch 18 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-11 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-17 collides with SC Ch 4 at 80 , 73
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
- escorted by PB Kyo Maru #12 , SC Ch 18 , SC Ch 10
DMS W-18 engages PT-31 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-18 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
PT-32 engages PB Kyo Maru #12 at 2,000 yards
PT-31 engages DMS W-18 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-18 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
PT-33 engages xAK Hawaii Maru at 2,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
PT-33 engages PB Kyo Maru #12 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-18 engages PT-31 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-12 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-11 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-10 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru screened from combat
- escorted by SC Ch 12 , SC Ch 11
PB Kyo Maru #12 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-18 engages PT-31 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-18 engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
SC Ch 4 collides with DMS W-18 at 80 , 73
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
- escorted by PB Kyo Maru #13 , SC Ch 18 , SC Ch 16 ,
SC Ch 12 , SC Ch 11
PT-33 engages DMS W-18 at 3,000 yards
PT-32 engages DMS W-18 at 3,000 yards
PT-33 sunk by DMS W-11 at 3,000 yards
Earp, M.J. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 4,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
- escorted by PB Kyo Maru #12 , SC Ch 17 , SC Ch 11
DMS W-17 engages PT-32 at 4,000 yards
PT-32 engages DMS W-12 at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru screened from combat
- escorted by SC Ch 18
Task forces break off...


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-9
DMS W-10
DMS W-11
DMS W-12
DMS W-17
DMS W-18
PB Kyo Maru #12, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #13
SC Ch 4, heavy damage
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 6
SC Ch 10
SC Ch 11
SC Ch 12
SC Ch 16
SC Ch 17
SC Ch 18
xAK Brisbane Maru
xAK Hawaii Maru
xAK Sanko Maru
xAK Takao Maru
xAK Shinko Maru

Allied Ships
PT Q-111
PT Q-112
PT Q-113



Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 46% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 1,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-9
DMS W-10
DMS W-11
DMS W-12
DMS W-17, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DMS W-18, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PB Kyo Maru #12, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #13
SC Ch 4, and is sunk
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 6
SC Ch 10
SC Ch 11
SC Ch 12
SC Ch 16
SC Ch 17
SC Ch 18
xAK Brisbane Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Hawaii Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Sanko Maru
xAK Takao Maru
xAK Shinko Maru

Allied Ships
PT-34
PT-35
PT-41



Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 46% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
DMS W-18 sunk by PT-35 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-11 engages PT-41 at 2,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru screened from combat
- escorted by SC Ch 10
PT-41 engages xAK Hawaii Maru at 2,000 yards
PT-41 engages xAK Brisbane Maru at 2,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
- escorted by PB Kyo Maru #12 , SC Ch 18 , SC Ch 17 ,
SC Ch 11
DMS W-17 engages PT-41 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-17 sunk by PT-41 at 2,000 yards
PT-41 engages DMS W-10 at 2,000 yards
SC Ch 18 collides with SC Ch 4 at 80 , 73
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
- escorted by SC Ch 18 , SC Ch 17 , SC Ch 10
PB Kyo Maru #13 engages PT-41 at 2,000 yards
SC Ch 16 engages PT-41 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-12 engages PT-41 at 2,000 yards
PT-41 engages DMS W-10 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-9 engages PT-41 at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru screened from combat
- escorted by SC Ch 16
PT-34 engages DMS W-12 at 3,000 yards
Kingman, C.I. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 4,000 yards
xAK Shinko Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Sanko Maru ,
xAK Hawaii Maru , xAK Brisbane Maru screened from combat
DMS W-12 engages PT-41 at 4,000 yards
Task forces break off...



Some sympathic attack of PT boats including a collision between enemy vessels. Quite realistic for me but as ask Micke II, why the jap surface naval TF didn't engage. It was in the same hex [&:]



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Now, a serie of sweep on Manilla which will beat the CAP. But why in 3 raids????

Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *

CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 29000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 29000 , scrambling fighters to 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 32400.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 29000 , scrambling fighters to 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 31400.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
24th PG/Hq Sqn with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 2
P-40B Warhawk x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *

CAP engaged:
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes
24th PG/Hq Sqn with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 68 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 2
P-40B Warhawk x 2


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *

CAP engaged:
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
24th PG/Hq Sqn with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes

As we can see, very few losses for these dogfights at very high altitude.
So, the CAP is down, many allied fighters damaged on airfield. Seems good.

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Now are coming the bombers raids on Manilla; a lot of very small raids (why??) without any significant effect of course.
If the CAP wouln't have been defeated and the Flak so weak, it would have been very bad for the Japs.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G3M2 Nell x 6



Allied aircraft
P-35A x 1
P-40B Warhawk x 1


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
MTB 12
MTB 11



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 63 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G3M2 Nell x 3
G4M1 Betty x 6



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 13



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 56 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6



Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7



Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 11



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
MTB 12
MTB 11



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Now, a disappointing thing for me

Morning Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengselor at 68,95

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CM Prins van Oranje, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AG Albatros, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
AVP Valk, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CM Prins van Oranje
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AVP Valk
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AG Albatros

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Clark Field at 77,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
B5N1 Kate x 9



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Chengtu, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
MTB 8, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Chengtu


See the range of the Kate

All ships sink immediately.

For the MTB, ok but for the other one's??

I was already finding WitP to efficient with its air attack on ship, but now it is worse.
All Kate (100% of success) got hits on ships at a 6000 feet altitude.
With WitP, some would failed the attack and most ships would have been seriously damaged with a small chance to reach a safe port for repair.
With AE, NO [:(]

So, i have 2 questions:
how, in AE, the Neosho will survive the jap strike coming from Zuikaku and Shokaku during Coral sea battle??
How Kurita's fleet in october 44, in the Subiyan sea, in spite of heavy naval attack coming from a big part of the US CV planes, will managed to perform its raid on Leyte golf with only the lost of the Musashi and some other damage on the other war ships?
[&:]

[rominet]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 12, 41

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Today, AE is wonderful

Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
CL Kiso
CL Oi
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Nokaze, Shell hits 1
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze
DD Yugao, Shell hits 1
DD Urukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Tatsuyuke

Allied Ships
PT Q-111
PT Q-112
PT Q-113
MTB 26
MTB 27



Reduced sighting due to 35% moonlight...
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 35% moonlight: 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards......
Range closes to 1,000 yards......
DD Urukaze engages MTB 26 at 1,000 yards...
DD Yugao engages MTB 26 at 1,000 yards...
DD Nokaze engages MTB 26 at 1,000 yards...
Range increases to 2,000 yards...
DD Urukaze engages PT Q-112 at 2,000 yards...
MTB 27 engages DD Nokaze at 2,000 yards...
PT Q-111 engages DD Okikaze at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 7,000 yards...
DD Okikaze engages PT Q-111 at 7,000 yards...
DD Tatsuyuke engages MTB 27 at 7,000 yards...
DD Urukaze engages MTB 26 at 7,000 yards...
DD Yugao engages MTB 27 at 7,000 yards...
DD Numakaze engages MTB 27 at 7,000 yards...
DD Namikaze engages MTB 26 at 7,000 yards...
Range increases to 11,000 yards...
DD Numakaze engages PT Q-112 at 11,000 yards...
DD Nokaze engages MTB 27 at 11,000 yards...
DD Urukaze engages MTB 27 at 11,000 yards...
DD Yugao engages MTB 26 at 11,000 yards...
DD Namikaze engages MTB 26 at 11,000 yards...
Task forces break off......


Here is a very realistic PT boat attack.
No torpedo hits because very fast enemy ships (the day before, ships were slow). But also, all PT boat managed to escape and slalom between salvo.
Good job!!


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Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 40456 troops, 422 guns, 230 vehicles, Assault Value = 1061

Defending force 8488 troops, 132 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 211

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 1129

Allied adjusted defense: 369

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
896 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
18833 casualties reported
Squads: 456 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 933 destroyed, 117 disabled
Engineers: 37 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 99 (98 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 145 (138 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Units destroyed 6


Assaulting units:...
38th Division...
104th Division...
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment...
66th Infantry Regiment...
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment...
2nd Mortar Battalion...
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion...
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment...
21st Mortar Battalion...
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment...
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion...
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion...
...
Defending units:...
Hong Kong Fortress...
1st Middlesex Battalion...
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion...
Rifles of Canada Battalion...
Kowloon Brigade...
102nd RN Base Force...

Too fast. Honk Hong should have better fortifications.
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In spite of many submarine between Philippines and Formosa, only a couple of succesful hit. Enemy freighters have escort.
At the opposite, japanese ASW is not efficient, many sub grenades but no hits.
Seems really good.

[rominet]

Hi every one
something very surprising for me

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 24, 41
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 51,82

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 11
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 13
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14



Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 27


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
CA Atago
xAP Asama Maru



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(42 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
59th Sentai with Ki-43-Ia Oscar (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-43-Ib Oscar (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 51,82

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 2
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5



Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
59th Sentai with Ki-43-Ia Oscar (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-43-Ib Oscar (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

So, we have 2 raids with 33 139 WH-3, first intercepted by 38 light jap fighters (Oscar and Nate) and the second raid, by 12 fighters.

But, in fact, the losses are not 18 planes killed (which is already much) but 31 and 28 by air to air combat, so nearly all planes launched.[X(]

The weapons of jap fighter are mainly 7.7mm gun and some 12.7mm for some kind of Oscar.
To my opinion, with WitP, there should probably have had 15 kills.
IRL, hum, difficult to say but i can imagine 6 or 7 bombers directly killed, more than twice more or less damaged among which 4 or 5 would have crashed before home.
So, 12 planes killed seems to me a good estimation, but not 28.

In the game, the 139 WH-3 has no armor and a durability less than a Betty

[&:]