Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
there needs to b a balance in the game as there was in the war between menuverability and speed armamaents
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
ORIGINAL: seydlitz
ORIGINAL: Mac Linehan
Hi, seydlitz -
Outstanding AAR and game; a very radical and interesting approach, I am enjoying every post. I would like to emulate your use of paratroops in the Philippines and have located the 1st Raiding Rgt in Kagoshima. Do you remember where the other Para units are? I have checked the in game (Scn 1) ground unit listing, but no go.
Thanks for your assistance,
Mac
I believe that Jonathan is correct. If I remember, you have 1st Raiding Regiment in Kagoshima, 3rd & 4th SNLF on Takao. Don't quote me, but I believe that the other two are SNLF units. Find them in the unit list and you will see the parachute emblem. In January you get the 2nd Raiding Regiment.
Jonathan and seydlitz -
I was focused on IJA units and missed the two SNLF. Thank your for your assistance.
Mac
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
This is truly an incredible game, but some things could be improved in the air-to-air sphere. One slight example (I don't want to hijack this excellent AAR): USN pilots liked the F4F-3 a lot better than the F4F-4, although it had 4 ea. vs. 6 ea. 50-cals. The pilots thought four was enough vs. the thin-skinned Zero and the number of total rounds was the same in both aircraft--so the F4F-3 offered 50% more trigger time. In game terms, it's simply 12 vs. 18 in gun ratings between the two aircraft, which does not reflect the true story.
Now back to your regularly scheduled program...
Cheers,
CC
Now back to your regularly scheduled program...
Cheers,
CC
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
I could not agree with you more. The I-15 and I-153 perform against the Japanese fighters including the zero better than any of the more modern fighters that I have encountered. I think that this is because of the ludicrous MVR rating that they have been assigned. It is too far over the top and is unrealistic.
I disagree i think the maneuver rating should be ludicrous the I-153 can out turn anything and everything. out turn zeros with ease.. i think it could pull a 360 in about a little over 2 seconds at high or low speed.. the disadvantages it would face is an open cockpit.. which would be very stressful on the pilot and a very very low top speed.. something in the air combat model must be busted
Finnish B-239 were able to chew the I-153 to pieces something like 30-1.. and the B-239 is really just a Buffalo by another name
RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
I have one of, if not the most exhaustive Russian publications about the air war over Khalkin Gol right before me (http://militera.lib.ru/h/kondratyev_v/10.html if anyone cares), and it says that reports by even those Russian pilots, who flew I-15, mention excellent maneurability of Ki-27, so these planes were at least equals in maneurability. I-153 decidedly was worse, due to being heavier than I-15 and having less pleasant flight characteristics in general.ORIGINAL: krupp_88mm
I disagree i think the maneuver rating should be ludicrous the I-153 can out turn anything and everything. out turn zeros with ease.. i think it could pull a 360 in about a little over 2 seconds at high or low speed.. the disadvantages it would face is an open cockpit.. which would be very stressful on the pilot and a very very low top speed.. something in the air combat model must be busted
Finnish B-239 were able to chew the I-153 to pieces something like 30-1.. and the B-239 is really just a Buffalo by another name
P.S. As about Finns, the main recipe for their victories seem to be "overclaim harder than usual". Being on the front Soviets didn't care about for 2,5 years also helped.
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
Turn 70 14 Feb 1942
The Soviets tried doggedly to get to my carriers again this turn, but all attempts failed. The KB is now sailing for Kure as they have expended all bombs and the strike aircraft will not fly empty.
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ASW attack near Nakhodka at 113,49
Japanese Ships
SC CHa-27
Allied Ships
SS L-8
L-8 diving deep .......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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ASW attack near San Clemente Island at 225,79
Japanese Ships
SS I-21
Allied Ships
DD Walke
DD O'Brien
I-21 diving deep .......
DD Walke fails to find sub and abandons search...
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD O'Brien attacking submerged sub .......
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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Submarine attack near Rashin at 110,47
Japanese Ships
xAK Kasagi Maru
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-106
xAK Kasagi Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-106...
SS ShCh-106 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Kasagi Maru...
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ASW attack near Nakhodka at 113,49
Japanese Ships
DD Hatsukaze
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsuharu
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-122, hits 1
DD Nenohi fails to find sub and abandons search...
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu attacking submerged sub .......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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D3A1 Val reports conning tower at 114, 50 near Olga
D3A1 Val reports submarine wake at 113, 51 near Olga
E8N2 Dave sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 131,42 near Okha, speed 12, Moving Northwest
F1M2 Pete reports shape below surface at 113, 51 near Olga
E13A1 Jake reports periscope wake at 113, 49 near Nakhodka
F1M2 Pete reports object under water at 109, 56 near Oki Shoto
H6K4 Mavis reports object under water at 113, 51 near Olga
D3A1 Val reports possible submarine at 113, 51 near Olga
D3A1 Val reports periscope wake at 113, 51 near Olga
a L Type class SS is reported HIT
D3A1 Val reports turbulence in water at 113, 49 near Nakhodka
D3A1 Val reports diving submarine at 115, 48 near Olga
an Allied SS is reported HIT
D3A1 Val reports suspected submarine at 113, 49 near Nakhodka

The Soviets tried doggedly to get to my carriers again this turn, but all attempts failed. The KB is now sailing for Kure as they have expended all bombs and the strike aircraft will not fly empty.
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ASW attack near Nakhodka at 113,49
Japanese Ships
SC CHa-27
Allied Ships
SS L-8
L-8 diving deep .......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
SC CHa-27 fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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ASW attack near San Clemente Island at 225,79
Japanese Ships
SS I-21
Allied Ships
DD Walke
DD O'Brien
I-21 diving deep .......
DD Walke fails to find sub and abandons search...
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD O'Brien attacking submerged sub .......
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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Submarine attack near Rashin at 110,47
Japanese Ships
xAK Kasagi Maru
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-106
xAK Kasagi Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-106...
SS ShCh-106 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Kasagi Maru...
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ASW attack near Nakhodka at 113,49
Japanese Ships
DD Hatsukaze
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsuharu
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-122, hits 1
DD Nenohi fails to find sub and abandons search...
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu attacking submerged sub .......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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D3A1 Val reports conning tower at 114, 50 near Olga
D3A1 Val reports submarine wake at 113, 51 near Olga
E8N2 Dave sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 131,42 near Okha, speed 12, Moving Northwest
F1M2 Pete reports shape below surface at 113, 51 near Olga
E13A1 Jake reports periscope wake at 113, 49 near Nakhodka
F1M2 Pete reports object under water at 109, 56 near Oki Shoto
H6K4 Mavis reports object under water at 113, 51 near Olga
D3A1 Val reports possible submarine at 113, 51 near Olga
D3A1 Val reports periscope wake at 113, 51 near Olga
a L Type class SS is reported HIT
D3A1 Val reports turbulence in water at 113, 49 near Nakhodka
D3A1 Val reports diving submarine at 115, 48 near Olga
an Allied SS is reported HIT
D3A1 Val reports suspected submarine at 113, 49 near Nakhodka

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
Other than my incessant bombing of Vladivostok and Voroshilov, I continued the artillery bombardment at Voroshilov.
Again my opponent did not fire back. Many of my reserve units are now down to about 15 disruption and 40 fatigue. Since he is not firing back I will let them get totally undisrupted before switching back to combat mode. The additional delay will only help me recover more disabled squads in the units.
Mark told me that his drop off in AV in the hex is due to disruption alone. He claims to have plenty of supply there.
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Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4810 troops, 406 guns, 280 vehicles, Assault Value = 2131
Defending force 66090 troops, 1540 guns, 483 vehicles, Assault Value = 1669
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1571 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 97 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 46 (28 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 58 (37 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Again my opponent did not fire back. Many of my reserve units are now down to about 15 disruption and 40 fatigue. Since he is not firing back I will let them get totally undisrupted before switching back to combat mode. The additional delay will only help me recover more disabled squads in the units.
Mark told me that his drop off in AV in the hex is due to disruption alone. He claims to have plenty of supply there.
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Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4810 troops, 406 guns, 280 vehicles, Assault Value = 2131
Defending force 66090 troops, 1540 guns, 483 vehicles, Assault Value = 1669
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1571 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 97 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 46 (28 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 58 (37 destroyed, 21 disabled)
RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
seydlitz how do you handle your ASW forces on long time operations?
do you check for ships out of ASW ammo and send them back to base, do you have a replenishment fleet or do you just ignore
them?
do you check for ships out of ASW ammo and send them back to base, do you have a replenishment fleet or do you just ignore
them?

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
I will refuel them at sea if they have plenty of ammo. Otherwise I send them back to port.ORIGINAL: LoBaron
seydlitz how do you handle your ASW forces on long time operations?
do you check for ships out of ASW ammo and send them back to base, do you have a replenishment fleet or do you just ignore
them?
RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
It's not just 12 vs. 18, the only real advantage to the F4F-3's armament was in fact the longer firing time, as you state, and as early war USN aviators preferred. Unfortunately ammo limits are not derived from any tangible stat that can found in the database, they are a combination of several abstracted factors. The bottom line is that WitP never tracked it in the first place, so we are the same as Stock in that regard.ORIGINAL: Commander Cody
This is truly an incredible game, but some things could be improved in the air-to-air sphere. One slight example (I don't want to hijack this excellent AAR): USN pilots liked the F4F-3 a lot better than the F4F-4, although it had 4 ea. vs. 6 ea. 50-cals. The pilots thought four was enough vs. the thin-skinned Zero and the number of total rounds was the same in both aircraft--so the F4F-3 offered 50% more trigger time. In game terms, it's simply 12 vs. 18 in gun ratings between the two aircraft, which does not reflect the true story.
Now back to your regularly scheduled program...
Cheers,
CC
The tale is told is in the Topspeed and MVR values. The F4F-4 was significantly heavier than the -3 owing to the extra guns, pilot protection and folding wings, among other things...this is reflected in a base MVR of 22 vice 20 for the F4F-4, and a topspeed advantage of 329 mph vs 318. Together these more than add to the cumulative superiority you lament as missing.
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
This is a vague comment. Can you be more specific?ORIGINAL: freeboy
there needs to b a balance in the game as there was in the war between menuverability and speed armamaents
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
ORIGINAL: FatR
Also a small commentary: I-15 and I-153 have MVR 53 (highest in the game, AFAIK). And I-153 does not even suffer MVR cutoff until 16 thousands feet, so at higher altidute bands its advantage over Ki-27 is even greater. I, personally, think that, to match history, their MVR must be cut by about 10, as I-15, if anything, was outmaneuvered by Ki-27, and I-153 is its powered-up and heavier successor. Also, every gun on old Russian fighters is "Center-line", as opposed to "Front", which, I believe, provides accuracy advantage (technically this is a correct description, but in reality these planese weren't that good as gun platforms).ORIGINAL: seydlitz
The air war over Russian territory is not going as well as planned by a longshot. Much of this seems to have to do with the weather, which has been terrible just about every turn. The weather prevents a high percentage of missions from being flown and also serves to protect the enemy biplanes when I try to sweep them. Zero fighters do well during sweeps but seem to be sitting ducks when escorting bombers. I feel like I should be mowing these biplanes down with even Nates, but in reality they are much harder to fight than even the AVG P-40s. I don't know why.
In Kalinin Gol/Nomonhan incident the Russians and the Japanese were more evenly matched than the histories from each side would lead you to believe. The Russians were no push overs and the Japanese tendency to overclaim did not start after Pearl Harbor. The I-15 and I-153 are biplanes and as a result their MVR ratings benefit from a LARGE square foot advantage over monoplanes. MVR uses Wing Area as one many factors.
Where the Zero and even the Nate have an advantage is in Topspeed. Don't underestimate this. This stat is heavily in favor of both the Zeke and Nate over the two I-'s. But also don't underestimate the power of numerical superiority. I can't seem to find any CRs you've posted that would provide a sense of the types of engagements you have had. I.e. whether numerical superiority was/is a factor. I would be happy to comment if you could point me to a couple.
I do note from one of your posts the MOST destroyed A/c in Air to Air is the I-153 over the Nate by about 60%. The Zero, which is your most widely deployed frontline Naval Fighter doesn't seem to be suffering too badly given its ubiquitous nature, and the Oscar Ic seems to doing well. But this obviously isn't the whole story.
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
Thanks for the response, Elf. I'm not trying to disparage the hard work you and others have put into this fine game.
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
ORIGINAL: seydlitz
Other than my incessant bombing of Vladivostok and Voroshilov, I continued the artillery bombardment at Voroshilov.
Again my opponent did not fire back. Many of my reserve units are now down to about 15 disruption and 40 fatigue. Since he is not firing back I will let them get totally undisrupted before switching back to combat mode. The additional delay will only help me recover more disabled squads in the units.
Mark told me that his drop off in AV in the hex is due to disruption alone. He claims to have plenty of supply there.
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Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4810 troops, 406 guns, 280 vehicles, Assault Value = 2131
Defending force 66090 troops, 1540 guns, 483 vehicles, Assault Value = 1669
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1571 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 97 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 46 (28 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 58 (37 destroyed, 21 disabled)
This news definitely points to your play style and rotation of units to be a key factor. I was leaning to supply but your AAR has really proved a crucial factor in the land war of resting/rotating units.
Thanks for such an interesting and informative AAR. [:D]
With all your attention to the Soviet front, how do you feel your timeline is for other areas and what are your plans for expansion/fortification lines?
Pat
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
ORIGINAL: TheElf
Where the Zero and even the Nate have an advantage is in Topspeed. Don't underestimate this. This stat is heavily in favor of both the Zeke and Nate over the two I-'s. But also don't underestimate the power of numerical superiority. I can't seem to find any CRs you've posted that would provide a sense of the types of engagements you have had. I.e. whether numerical superiority was/is a factor. I would be happy to comment if you could point me to a couple.
Here are some examples for you.
From my 2/15/42 turn. The zero unit is my best zero unit. The unit was set to sweep with 40% LRCAP and 60% REST to ensure that fatigue was not a problem on any of the turns.
Morning Air attack on 23rd Division, at 108,27
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 9
DB-3M x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed (shot down by the I-153s)
Allied aircraft losses
DB-3M: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 5 x 100 kg GP Bomb
7 x I-153 sweeping at 15000 feet
CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Next is same units engaging on the 2/14/42 turn
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Morning Air attack on 61st Tank Division, at 108,27
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 2
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
CAP engaged:
9 IAP-PVO with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
2/13/42 turn
Different unit here, but also one of my better units.
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Morning Air attack on Alexandrovsk , at 126,41
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
CAP engaged:
71 SAP IAE with I-153 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
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Afternoon Air attack on 96th NKVD Regiment, at 109,25
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
CAP engaged:
28 SAD/51 IAP with I-153 (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
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Afternoon Air attack on 96th NKVD Regiment, at 109,25
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 19
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 7
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
CAP engaged:
28 SAD/51 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Next most recent Air to air was 2/10/42:
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Morning Air attack on Alexandrovsk , at 126,41
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
CAP engaged:
71 SAP IAE with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Okha , at 128,37
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 4
SB-2 x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
SB-2: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
These we ALL of the air to air combats during this time period between Japanese and Soviet fighters. In the next post, I will pull some of the combat reports from the earlier stages of the conflict where there were more fighters in the air on the Soviet side.
I would also like to mention that I am very meticulous about fatigue and I do not fly fighter units on missions if they have over 16 fatigue at mission start. However, you can see from these examples that even my best zero unit (Tainain Datai) doesn't do very much against these I-153 biplanes.
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
Here are some examples from early in the conflict with more aircraft. If you noticed in the examples above, I usually killed the biplane only when I had them very heavily outnumbered.
Again, I will give you all combats on that date that involved fighters on both sides so that you can get a clearer picture.
First, 12/27/41...the first turn that the soviets were active:
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G3M2 Nell x 15
G4M1 Betty x 45
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 4
I-153 x 47
I-16m24 x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 5 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 3 destroyed
I-16m24: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
xAK Svyatozar, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS ShCh-105, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Karlotta, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Rekordnyi, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS ShCh-107, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
70 IAD/305 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
29 IAD/307 IAP with I-153 (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
70 IAD/308 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 3 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Training flight from 70 IAD/308 IAP has been caught up in attack
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Morning Air attack on Sakhalinskaya Rifle Brigade, at 128,37 (Okha)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N2 Kate x 110
D3A1 Val x 113
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
15 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 12000 feet
CAP engaged:
8 OIAZ-PVO with I-153 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 56 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 36
Ki-36 Ida x 16
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 9
I-153 x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 10 destroyed
Ki-36 Ida: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
DB-3T: 1 destroyed on ground
Runway hits 10
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 6
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 16
SB-2 x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x SB-2 bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x I-153 sweeping at 15000 feet *
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 5
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 14
SB-2 x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 damaged
Ki-36 Ida: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 3 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x I-153 sweeping at 15000 feet *
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
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12/28/41 Day 2 of the invasion
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Morning Air attack on Rybolov , at 113,44
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 9
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 16
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 14
SB-2 x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 2 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 11 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 17
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 16
I-153 x 36
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 6 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (2 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 11
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 11
SB-2 x 13
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x SB-2 bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 8 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 24
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 16
I-153 x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 17
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 10
I-153 x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
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12/29/41 Day 3 of invasion ****Note use of zero sweeps in combat here*****
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 15
I-16m24 x 34
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 2 destroyed
I-16m24: 8 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 27000 feet
CAP engaged:
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 4 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
70 IAD/305 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 4 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
29 IAD/307 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
70 IAD/308 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1
I-16m24 x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 26000 feet
CAP engaged:
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
70 IAD/305 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rybolov , at 113,44
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 5
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 15
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 12
SB-2 x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 damaged
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x SB-2 bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 10 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
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12/30/41 Day 4 of invasion
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Morning Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
G3M2 Nell x 26
G4M1 Betty x 25
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 29
I-153 x 48
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 2 destroyed
I-153: 2 destroyed
DB-3T: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
19 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 8 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
21 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (5 airborne, 10 on standby, 7 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 9 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
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Morning Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 14
Ki-27b Nate x 28
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 20
I-153 x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-27b Nate: 3 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
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Afternoon Air attack on 4th Border Defense Fortress, at 116,42 (Kotou)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 13
SB-2 x 13
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 3 destroyed
SB-2: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2 bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
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Afternoon Air attack on Bikin , at 117,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 75 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
B5N2 Kate x 102
D3A1 Val x 67
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 28
I-16m24 x 63
Mig-3 x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 21 destroyed, 31 damaged
D3A1 Val: 8 destroyed, 24 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
I-16m24: 3 destroyed
SB-2: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 41
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
7 IABr-TOF/6 IAP with I-15bis (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 9 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
18 IAP-PVO with Mig-3 (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
7 IABr-TOF/39 IAP with I-15bis (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 11 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
69 SAD/300 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 11 on standby, 16 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
69 SAD/301 IAP with I-16m24 (3 airborne, 11 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
Again, I will give you all combats on that date that involved fighters on both sides so that you can get a clearer picture.
First, 12/27/41...the first turn that the soviets were active:
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G3M2 Nell x 15
G4M1 Betty x 45
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 4
I-153 x 47
I-16m24 x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 5 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 3 destroyed
I-16m24: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
xAK Svyatozar, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS ShCh-105, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Karlotta, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Rekordnyi, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS ShCh-107, Bomb hits 1
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
70 IAD/305 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
29 IAD/307 IAP with I-153 (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
70 IAD/308 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 3 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Training flight from 70 IAD/308 IAP has been caught up in attack
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Morning Air attack on Sakhalinskaya Rifle Brigade, at 128,37 (Okha)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N2 Kate x 110
D3A1 Val x 113
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
15 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 12000 feet
CAP engaged:
8 OIAZ-PVO with I-153 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 56 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 36
Ki-36 Ida x 16
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 9
I-153 x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 10 destroyed
Ki-36 Ida: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
DB-3T: 1 destroyed on ground
Runway hits 10
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 6
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 16
SB-2 x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x SB-2 bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x I-153 sweeping at 15000 feet *
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 5
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 14
SB-2 x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 damaged
Ki-36 Ida: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 3 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x I-153 sweeping at 15000 feet *
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
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12/28/41 Day 2 of the invasion
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Morning Air attack on Rybolov , at 113,44
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 9
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 16
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 14
SB-2 x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 2 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 11 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 17
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 16
I-153 x 36
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 6 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (2 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 11
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 11
SB-2 x 13
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x SB-2 bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 8 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 24
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 16
I-153 x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 17
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 10
I-153 x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
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12/29/41 Day 3 of invasion ****Note use of zero sweeps in combat here*****
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 15
I-16m24 x 34
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 2 destroyed
I-16m24: 8 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 27000 feet
CAP engaged:
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 4 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
29 IAD/304 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
70 IAD/305 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 4 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
29 IAD/307 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
70 IAD/308 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1
I-16m24 x 2
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 26000 feet
CAP engaged:
10 BABr-TOF/19 IAP with I-16m24 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
70 IAD/305 IAP with I-16m24 (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
70 IAD/306 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rybolov , at 113,44
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 5
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
34 SAD/47 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 15
Allied aircraft
I-153 x 12
SB-2 x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 damaged
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x SB-2 bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
9th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 10 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
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12/30/41 Day 4 of invasion
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Morning Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
G3M2 Nell x 26
G4M1 Betty x 25
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 29
I-153 x 48
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 2 destroyed
I-153: 2 destroyed
DB-3T: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
19 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 8 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
21 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (5 airborne, 10 on standby, 7 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 9 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
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Morning Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 14
Ki-27b Nate x 28
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 20
I-153 x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-27b Nate: 3 destroyed
CAP engaged:
32 SAD/5 IAP with I-153 (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/48 IAP with I-153 (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
32 SAD/75 IAP with I-15bis (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
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Afternoon Air attack on 4th Border Defense Fortress, at 116,42 (Kotou)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 13
SB-2 x 13
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 3 destroyed
SB-2: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2 bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000
Raid is overhead
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Afternoon Air attack on Bikin , at 117,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 75 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
B5N2 Kate x 102
D3A1 Val x 67
Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 28
I-16m24 x 63
Mig-3 x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 21 destroyed, 31 damaged
D3A1 Val: 8 destroyed, 24 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
I-16m24: 3 destroyed
SB-2: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 41
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 19000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
7 IABr-TOF/6 IAP with I-15bis (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 9 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
18 IAP-PVO with Mig-3 (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
7 IABr-TOF/39 IAP with I-15bis (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 11 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
69 SAD/300 IAP with I-16m24 (2 airborne, 11 on standby, 16 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers
69 SAD/301 IAP with I-16m24 (3 airborne, 11 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
I could post several of the January turns if you need to see them, but this should be enough to give you an idea that the I-153 vs zero or Oscar does not lead to a biplane slaughter.
Let me know if you want any other turns posted.
Let me know if you want any other turns posted.
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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
15 Feb 1942
The turn started with more sub action:
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 15, 42
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ASW attack near Olga at 113,51
Japanese Ships
PB Shinko Maru #2
DD Shigure
PB Yoshida Maru
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-114
ShCh-114 diving deep .......
DD Shigure fails to find sub and abandons search...
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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Submarine attack near Rashin at 110,47
Japanese Ships
xAK Sensan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-139
xAK Sensan Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-139...
SS ShCh-139 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Sensan Maru...
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ASW attack near Shikuka at 127,45
Japanese Ships
CL Kuma
AMC Asaka Maru
DMS W-19
DMS W-10
xAP Kokuryu Maru
xAP Hakone Maru
xAK Daisin Maru
xAK Nagara Maru
DD Numakaze
DD Nokaze
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-117
DD Numakaze fails to find sub and abandons search...
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze attacking submerged sub .......
DD Nokaze cannot establish contact with SS ShCh-117...
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
His seaplanes also sunk one of my sub chasers in the sea of Japan.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Nakhodka at 113,49
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Allied aircraft
MBR-2 x 2
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
SC CHa-15, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-27
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x MBR-2 bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

The turn started with more sub action:
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 15, 42
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ASW attack near Olga at 113,51
Japanese Ships
PB Shinko Maru #2
DD Shigure
PB Yoshida Maru
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-114
ShCh-114 diving deep .......
DD Shigure fails to find sub and abandons search...
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
PB Yoshida Maru fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
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Submarine attack near Rashin at 110,47
Japanese Ships
xAK Sensan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-139
xAK Sensan Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-139...
SS ShCh-139 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Sensan Maru...
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ASW attack near Shikuka at 127,45
Japanese Ships
CL Kuma
AMC Asaka Maru
DMS W-19
DMS W-10
xAP Kokuryu Maru
xAP Hakone Maru
xAK Daisin Maru
xAK Nagara Maru
DD Numakaze
DD Nokaze
Allied Ships
SS ShCh-117
DD Numakaze fails to find sub and abandons search...
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
DD Nokaze attacking submerged sub .......
DD Nokaze cannot establish contact with SS ShCh-117...
DD Nokaze fails to find sub, continues to search......
Escort abandons search for sub...
His seaplanes also sunk one of my sub chasers in the sea of Japan.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Nakhodka at 113,49
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Allied aircraft
MBR-2 x 2
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
SC CHa-15, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-27
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x MBR-2 bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

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ships sunk for the turn:


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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)
Land combat wasn't that favorable either.
I attempted to kick him back out of Spassk-Dalniy before he could attack. I found out that he had a larger LCU and not only did I fail, but he attacked and kicked me out of the hex....
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Ground combat at Spassk-Dalniy (114,44)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 2508 troops, 0 guns, 281 vehicles, Assault Value = 142
Defending force 10001 troops, 147 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 329
Japanese adjusted assault: 196
Allied adjusted defense: 110
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 46 (11 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
728 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Assaulting units:...
5th Tank Regiment...
3rd Tank Regiment...
9th Tank Regiment...
...
Defending units:...
66th Rifle Division...
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Ground combat at Spassk-Dalniy (114,44)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 9409 troops, 147 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 288
Defending force 1812 troops, 0 guns, 272 vehicles, Assault Value = 126
Allied adjusted assault: 192
Japanese adjusted defense: 46
Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Spassk-Dalniy !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 240 (238 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 3
Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:...
66th Rifle Division...
...
Defending units:...
3rd Tank Regiment...
5th Tank Regiment...
9th Tank Regiment...
At Voroshilov we again bombarded, but this time the Soviet units returned fire.....
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Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4863 troops, 410 guns, 275 vehicles, Assault Value = 2155
Defending force 63959 troops, 1520 guns, 419 vehicles, Assault Value = 1637
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 18 (9 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2662 casualties reported
Squads: 58 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 159 destroyed, 61 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 57 (30 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 62 (51 destroyed, 11 disabled)
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Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 56508 troops, 1399 guns, 313 vehicles, Assault Value = 1541
Defending force 97834 troops, 1067 guns, 845 vehicles, Assault Value = 2155
Japanese ground losses:
337 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 60 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 63 (30 destroyed, 33 disabled)
Vehicles lost 50 (33 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

I attempted to kick him back out of Spassk-Dalniy before he could attack. I found out that he had a larger LCU and not only did I fail, but he attacked and kicked me out of the hex....
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Ground combat at Spassk-Dalniy (114,44)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 2508 troops, 0 guns, 281 vehicles, Assault Value = 142
Defending force 10001 troops, 147 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 329
Japanese adjusted assault: 196
Allied adjusted defense: 110
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 46 (11 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
728 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Assaulting units:...
5th Tank Regiment...
3rd Tank Regiment...
9th Tank Regiment...
...
Defending units:...
66th Rifle Division...
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Ground combat at Spassk-Dalniy (114,44)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 9409 troops, 147 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 288
Defending force 1812 troops, 0 guns, 272 vehicles, Assault Value = 126
Allied adjusted assault: 192
Japanese adjusted defense: 46
Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Spassk-Dalniy !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 240 (238 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 3
Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:...
66th Rifle Division...
...
Defending units:...
3rd Tank Regiment...
5th Tank Regiment...
9th Tank Regiment...
At Voroshilov we again bombarded, but this time the Soviet units returned fire.....
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Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4863 troops, 410 guns, 275 vehicles, Assault Value = 2155
Defending force 63959 troops, 1520 guns, 419 vehicles, Assault Value = 1637
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 18 (9 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2662 casualties reported
Squads: 58 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 159 destroyed, 61 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 57 (30 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 62 (51 destroyed, 11 disabled)
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Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 56508 troops, 1399 guns, 313 vehicles, Assault Value = 1541
Defending force 97834 troops, 1067 guns, 845 vehicles, Assault Value = 2155
Japanese ground losses:
337 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 60 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 63 (30 destroyed, 33 disabled)
Vehicles lost 50 (33 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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