ETO-scenario is here!

[Harbinger]

ETO House Rules.
2. Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Spain may never be subjeted to diplomatic activity. They may only be delared war upon.

ETO Changes.
12.Changed the orientation of Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Spain to Comintern and fixed their political strength to 50. It is now prohibited to do any action with these countries except declaring war on them. The reason is (A) now both the Allies and the Axis can declare war on these countries, and (B) to emphasize that the chance of any Scandinavian country joining the war by itself borders on the ludicrous, and (C) Franco was firmly determined to stay out of the war. Germany can declare war at any time at the Axis player’s desire. Allied players can only declare war if they have at least 50 DPs.

There is one side effect of having Scandinavia Comintern. When any of the above mentioned countries goes to war, they will fall under the leadership of the USSR player. Once this happens, the countries.csv should be altered to instead make them either Allied or Axis partners. If not, the play sequence in PBEM-games will be more complicated with more mails sent for each turn.

How is the faction determined?
If UK/USA declare war on Norway, does it fall under the protection of the Comintern or Axis?

[Uxbridge]

The original faction is pre-set in the scenario.

If any of these countries is declared war upon, they will remain neutral if their activation level is below 100. They will be controlled by the AI unless given a player by using F11.

[Harbinger]

hmmm....how are their activation levels going to increase to 100 if they are not subject to any diplomatic activity except DoW?

[Uxbridge]

We can change it in countries.csv. Normally it doesn't matter. One can simply asign the country in question to any player, regardless of faction. There's one issue, though. If we don't change it, the country will not have it's phase adjacent to it's major nation cronologically, and the turn has to got back and forth.

I think Chuck can fix this in Group Green, and I can do it in Group Blue.

[Harbinger]

I see.

These nations have in effect been removed from the game until a DoW, at which time they are assigned to their respective faction via administrative control.

[Uxbridge]

THat's about it.

[Harbinger]

ETO House Rules.
2. Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Spain may never be subjeted to diplomatic activity. They may only be delared war upon.

ETO Changes.
12.Changed the orientation of Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Spain to Comintern and fixed their political strength to 50. It is now prohibited to do any action with these countries except declaring war on them. The reason is (A) now both the Allies and the Axis can declare war on these countries, and (B) to emphasize that the chance of any Scandinavian country joining the war by itself borders on the ludicrous, and (C) Franco was firmly determined to stay out of the war. Germany can declare war at any time at the Axis player’s desire. Allied players can only declare war if they have at least 50 DPs.

There is one side effect of having Scandinavia Comintern. When any of the above mentioned countries goes to war, they will fall under the leadership of the USSR player. Once this happens, the countries.csv should be altered to instead make them either Allied or Axis partners. If not, the play sequence in PBEM-games will be more complicated with more mails sent for each turn.

ORIGINAL: Harbinger
How is the faction determined?

ORIGINAL: Uxbridge
The original faction is pre-set in the scenario...they will remain neutral if their activation level is below 100.

ORIGINAL: Harbinger
....how are their activation levels going to increase to 100 if they are not subject to any diplomatic activity except DoW?

ORIGINAL: Uxbridge
We can change it in countries.csv. Normally it doesn't matter. One can simply asign the country in question to any player, regardless of faction.

ORIGINAL: Harbinger
These nations have in effect been removed from the game until a DoW, at which time they are assigned to their respective faction via administrative control.

ORIGINAL: Uxbridge
THat's about it.

From ETO Changes 12.
...When any of the above mentioned countries goes to war, they will fall under the leadership of the USSR player. Once this happens, the countries.csv should be altered to instead make them either Allied or Axis partners...

One should note the original factions of these nations.

Norway = Allied
Sweden = Axis
Denmark = none
Spain = none

[Harbinger]

Okay.

Situation;

UK saves it's 8 DP per month allocation until Jan 1940. Total DP should now be 52. This allows an DoW on any Scandinavian country as outlined in ETO House Rule 2 and ETO Change 12.

UK chooses to DoW Norway, cost is 50 DP.

Nothing is written to exclude this choice from the UK.

According to ETO Change 12 once this happens, and I quote
"the countries .csv should be altered to instead make them either Allied or Axis partners."

I asked specifically how this faction was determined; the answer was, and I quote
"The original faction is pre-set in the scenario...they will remain neutral if their activation level is below 100."

So I then asked how the activation level might increase if no Diplomatic activity other than DoW was allowed. The answer, and I quote
"We can change it in countries.csv."

....meaning that the activation level will be set to 100 and it will activate under the original faction...

No mention is made of what faction the nation is changed to other than its original.

UK initiates DoW on Norway.

Original Norway faction; Allied.

According to ETO Change 12, Norway's faction should be changed to that of Allied and its activation be set to 100. In effect an Allied military coup that results in Norway joining the Allies unconditionally.

[Uxbridge]

Hi, Harbinger. Sorry for not responding earlier. I saw the question some days ago, but hadn't time to answer. Then I forgot.

The countries concerned should not be allowed in any way to enter the war on their own account. They only enter if they're attacked.

If UK declare war on Norway, the German player should control Norway, unless this leads to some inconvenience in the player que (it might be better if it is Italy).

Do this question refer to activities in Group Green's game? If so I think it is better to discuss it at HQ, or outside players will be confused by this.

[Deadfish59]

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[Uxbridge]

Unzip the folders. Place the folder named "ETO" in the Matrix Games/WW2 Time of Wrath/data/scenarios folder; then the folders named "[UnitsSkin]Counters_uxbridge" and "[MapSkin]Normal_uxbridge" in the Matrix Games/WW2 Time of Wrath/data/gfx folder. You should not replace anything, just add the new folders.

Now, open the game. Choose "preferences" and change the map and unit symbols to the Uxbridge variants. Open the scenario menu normally and choose ETO. Play. [8D]

[Deadfish59]

Many Thanks Uxbridge   
 
Its now up and running.  I play it real soon
 
 

[justaguy93]

I tried copying those folders but when I try to start the scenario I get a CTD before the country selection screen comes up.  Console txt file reads the following:
 
data\scenarios\ETO\fleets.csv
Otwarcie OK
ERROR: Cannot handle word from column 11 for fleets.

Anyone else experienced this?

[Uxbridge]

That's odd! Line 11 in fleets should refer to the US Atlantic Fleet. It seems all right to me when I open the game. Have you switched to Uxbridge counters in preferences before opening? I can't imagine this to be the problem, but someone else had some hitherto unexplained difficulties regarding the graphics. Worth a try. But, as I said, it work fine at my end and it looks right to me in fleets.csv.

By the way, when did you download the scenario? If it was the last weeks or so, it's okay. But if it was longer ago, download it again. The first version had some problem regarding the map.

[Bleck]

It's column 11, not line 11 I think that justaguy93 is still using version 1.5, without 1.6 patch.

[Uxbridge]

Yes, you're rigth. It says column.

Upgrade to 1.6, justaguy. [:)]

[justaguy93]

Perfect, worked like a charm.  Strange though, I thought I had 1.6 installed.  My readme file said 1.6 on it.  In any case, I'm up and running so thank you.