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Norm Koger's The Operational Art of War III is the next game in the award-winning Operational Art of War game series. TOAW3 is updated and enhanced version of the TOAW: Century of Warfare game series. TOAW3 is a turn based game covering operational warfare from 1850-2015. Game scale is from 2.5km to 50km and half day to full week turns. TOAW3 scenarios have been designed by over 70 designers and included over 130 scenarios. TOAW3 comes complete with a full game editor.

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why did you remove helicopters and balistic misiles from german oob? buuuuu...

didn't in fact reduced micromanaging and removed some chrome out of scenario...

hmmmm.... [:'(]
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ouch!  I knew this was coming
OK in my defense...
Helo units on 25km scale...I like these in the more "tactical" scenarios... 10km and under
I wanted to revert it to a more conventional kind of war... WW2 but with jets...  in TOAW SSM's (also LR arty) can do too much damage to airfields
I kept the SAM's though, but the crudest variety
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Hmm airfield attacks. Never had any luck with them. So if I attack an airfield, what happens? Does the airfield repair?
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Hmm airfield attacks. Never had any luck with them. So if I attack an airfield, what happens? Does the airfield repair?
what I mean is bombarding airunits with LR arty[8|]
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ouch!  I knew this was coming
OK in my defense...
Helo units on 25km scale...I like these in the more "tactical" scenarios... 10km and under
I wanted to revert it to a more conventional kind of war... WW2 but with jets...  in TOAW SSM's (also LR arty) can do too much damage to airfields
I kept the SAM's though, but the crudest variety

Don't worry I really appreciate your efforts. Helos I don't really know to use that I think right as I never played any modern sce. It was nice to have them in this sce I think.

Regarding airfield attacks - but that is the point of scenario as Allies can punch Axies at any point all along Atlantic Wall (lol) perimeter, Spain, Italy, South France, Balkans, Turkey, Syria, East Front - so I think that Piero's idea was to somewhat offset this by adding Rockets to Axies and of course for chrome.

Now I know that Rockets are devastating but that's nice touch as it urges Allies to disable it somehow asap hehe and that's not so easy (maybe easier for those shorter range).

Hmmm, gee, I shouldn't have said this as I gave idea to Allies for commando raid LOL
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Just started a pbem... Cesteman's already raiding Normandy with his special forces on turn 1[:D]
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Just started a pbem... Cesteman's already raiding Normandy with his special forces on turn 1[:D]

LOL

Don't tease me Silvanski! [:D][:D][:D]

I have unplayed HoI 3 sitting at my HD and I was thinking today "will I play 1947 familiar TOAW system hehe or learn HQ system of HoI 3 argh"... and if I play 1947. that means Goodbye to outside world for some time hahaha. Not quite I know but hehe.

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Just started a pbem... Cesteman's already raiding Normandy with his special forces on turn 1[:D]


But nope I would not play without my toys rockets and helos lmao so maybe older version it already have back to strength russians.
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Just loaded different version of 1947 (2.2, 3.1, 3.3, new version...) well there is a lot of many not so visible changes that you didn't documented it.

Lowering of replacement rate, map positions of units...
example you lowered rockets in one version.

Panther replacement rate can vary from 110 to 58 per turn. heh. And numbers also vary from above 10000 to 9300.

I am not telling that anything is wrong but it could be documented. If possible.
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I lost track of all changes
ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain

Just loaded different version of 1947 (2.2, 3.1, 3.3, new version...) well there is a lot of many not so visible changes that you didn't documented it.

Lowering of replacement rate, map positions of units...
example you lowered rockets in one version.

Panther replacement rate can vary from 110 to 58 per turn. heh. And numbers also vary from above 10000 to 9300.

I am not telling that anything is wrong but it could be documented. If possible.
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no big deal
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Hey, I just noticed that the Bishop SPG's range is 0 km.



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Hey, I just noticed that the Bishop SPG's range is 0 km.



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s it under tanks or SPG's in the eqp list? I haven't modified that vehicle, so it must be in in the stock TOAW eqp file
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Yuck, that is one ugly armored vehicle! What were they thinking?

Check out Wiki for the gruesome facts, production of this atrocity was quickly canceled.

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Yuck, that is one ugly armored vehicle! What were they thinking?

Check out Wiki for the gruesome facts, production of this atrocity was quickly canceled.

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Yup, too high... an easy target for enemy fire... The Soviets first SPG based on the KV chassis was similar
Lower profile SPG quickly became the norm
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Yeah, it's with the SPG's but the default equipment file has the 0 range Bishop as well. [&:]
 
So this is a vanilla problem.
 
 
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Yeah, it's with the SPG's but the default equipment file has the 0 range Bishop as well. [&:]

So this is a vanilla problem.

Hmmm that's a tidbit which has slipped through the maze during all those years [:D]
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