Buzz's Fite Mod

[sPzAbt653]

Any manpower numbers on what the Soviets gained by retaking particular areas?

[Raver508]

Hey is it possible to get a hold of this mod from someone? I'm also keen to know if there is any documentation showing the changes it makes from the base game and whether there is a general consensus as to which side this mod tends to favour.

[Karri]

Anyone still got the mod?

[philturco]

Has anything been done in this mod to address the problem of the game usually being decided before the first winter? In all the games I've played an early full scale Soviet withdrawal has allowed the Soviets to build an impregnable maginot line type of defense in the Smolensk area for the entire front. Not much fun,

[BigDuke66]

I would like to know too if there has been changes lately or has work stopped on this scenario?

Is there maybe a changelog to the original FitE 5.0 version?

Also I would like to know if any adjustments from the D21 version flow into this version too especially production and stuff like that.

Can't anyone upload the latest version somewhere?

[Zort]

No I haven't been working on it for a bunch of months. Check the beginning of this forum, that shows most of the changes I made.

[fogger]

Can someone please explain the "enemy loss penlty" to me. I am currently playing a game (buzz's mod 7) as the Germans. On turn 60 the Russian loss pently was 195. On turn 65 it was 203, then on turn 68 it dropped to 194, on turn 70 it was 185 and now on turn 71 it is 175. My figure was going up slowly but on this turn it has also dropped.

Also on a second point for anybody about to start a game, you will need to look at the reconstruction point for the Finnish army. At present all the Finnish units are reconstructing in Berlin.

[Curtis Lemay]

ORIGINAL: fogger

Can someone please explain the "enemy loss penlty" to me. I am currently playing a game (buzz's mod 7) as the Germans. On turn 60 the Russian loss pently was 195. On turn 65 it was 203, then on turn 68 it dropped to 194, on turn 70 it was 185 and now on turn 71 it is 175. My figure was going up slowly but on this turn it has also dropped.

Losses increase the total and replacements decrease it.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: BigDuke66
Can't anyone upload the latest version somewhere?

Buzz finally responded to my email and sent me his latest and best version ( 7.0 ). I put it on a file server and you can find it here:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/e2zfxmdd4 ... _12_28.zip

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a PO for either side but it's more balanced than the original FITE. At least that was the intent of the changes.

EDIT: Changed the link to the Buzz mod file to a place that works.

[Raver508]

That's great, thanks Larry!

[Panama]

ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

Any manpower numbers on what the Soviets gained by retaking particular areas?

Example quoted from Scorched Earth by Paul Carell. Part five "To the Dnieper: Fighting on the Mius" page 321:

"In the reconquered areas behind the front, throughout towns and villages, he (Stalin) mobilized anybody able to carry a rifle. Young boys and old men were enlisted into depot battalions. They were clothed and trained on the way to the front. They drew a rifle, a tunic or uniform trousers, a pair of boots, and perhaps a steel helmet. They were taught to load and to fire. No more. And then they attacked. In this way the Soviet Southern Frount recruited 80,000 men in the regions along the Sea of Azov within a mere three weeks. This was total war."

This was Soviet doctrine in the reconquered lands. This is why, where possible, the Germans attempted to strip everything from the land in their retreat across the Soviet Union. People, animals, crops, anything not fastened down that they could take with them. What they couldn't take they destroyed. What they couldn't destroy they booby trapped if they had the time. Of course this wasn't always possible since, st times, the retreats were long and disorganized. Sounds like the Soviet retreats in 41 and 42, eh?

This book is a good read as well as "Hitler Moves East".

[fogger]

Hello Everybody,
I am currently on turn 75 in the above game. Some of the "bugs" in this mod are
1. The Finnish units reconstruct in Berlin.
2. Sevastopol (152,235) does not become an Axis supply point once the Germans capture it.
3. Under the current rules if the Russian play makes an all out attack on Finland during the first winter the Germans can not send any reinforcements (apart from rule 7). Whereas in June 1944 when the Russians did make an all out attack the Finns requested 6 divisions from the Germans. Players may like to make an optional rule here.

Apart from the above (I am still trying to work out how to fix the first two) it is a good game

[sPzAbt653]

In this way the Soviet Southern Frount recruited 80,000 men in the regions along the Sea of Azov within a mere three weeks.

I did not know that this was the case. I would have guessed that the Germans left no one and nothing behind. Thanks for the stat and the referance.

[Raver508]

How is the balance looking in your game Foggy?

[Foggy]

Well it's 5.0 - I'm doing okay - counterattacking everywhere because it's winter. I'm not looking forward to the spring/summer of 42 - he can rebuild too fast if I follow historical leanings!

[Telumar]

What i am missing is a complete list of changes for version 7.

[loveman2]

Paul Carrel wrote 2 books on the war in the east and are a brilliant read, he did intend to publish a third to complete the series however I read somewhere that he died. A sad loss for east front enthusiasts[:(]

[Raver508]

Telumar - I think someone said there was a pretty comprehensive list toward the start of this thread.

[Panama]

Is that replacement list Karri put together for the Soviets the maximum they can get if no cities are taken? Also, far too much lendlease and how would you separate lendlease from Soviet production?

[Karri]

ORIGINAL: Panama

Is that replacement list Karri put together for the Soviets the maximum they can get if no cities are taken? Also, far too much lendlease and how would you separate lendlease from Soviet production?

I think it was with historical loss dates for cities.