Japanese industry

[Ametysth]

ORIGINAL: findmeifyoucan

That's nice but what is the point in advancing the engine if you can't advance the plane? I am starting to think on agreeing with the previous comment that putting resources into research is a waste and to just put those resources into producing more planes. Like the Russians WWII philosophy, quantity rather than quality.

Manual states that engines and planes are researched in same manner. That means that if you manage to build same 85 points of some plane type in multiple factories, none too big, you should start to advance that model rather quickly.

Problem is that aircraft factories repair is far slower than engine factories. Rate of repair is actually so slow, that in plane models in service aprox. mid 1943, there is no advance or it is so small that it doesn't matter. IMHO it is better to concentrate on few high-end models from 1945 or end of 1944 and push them forward. From 1943 forward they should start advancing rather quickly, if effort to research them is made from day one.

[Mynok]

Well...the key is whether the devs removed the 3 month restriction from research advances that existed in Witp. In 44 and 45, the US becomes a signatory to the Russian doctrine of  'Quantity has a quality all its own'.

[n01487477]

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Well...the key is whether the devs removed the 3 month restriction from research advances that existed in Witp. In 44 and 45, the US becomes a signatory to the Russian doctrine of  'Quantity has a quality all its own'.

There was never a restriction in witp, I've got planes much earlier ... believe me [8D]

[Mynok]

There was, but damned if I'm gonna go search through the Witp forums to find that post.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: n01487477

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Well...the key is whether the devs removed the 3 month restriction from research advances that existed in Witp. In 44 and 45, the US becomes a signatory to the Russian doctrine of  'Quantity has a quality all its own'.

There was never a restriction in witp, I've got planes much earlier ... believe me [8D]

I confirm. By Dec 15, I've already repaired 3 1944 R&D factories. Since two of those are 1 unit factories, they are already producing R&D points. Granted, not much R&D, but it is a start.

[xj900uk]

If you don't R&D a new model or type, will it never appear?  There seem to be loads of possible models out there to choose from (some crap I agree) and only a limited amount of factories to R&D them.  I understand how to icnrease the size of the factories (keep 'em small to begin with) but do you get any more in future months/years after Dec '41 for other models?

[erstad]

ORIGINAL: xj900uk

If you don't R&D a new model or type, will it never appear?  There seem to be loads of possible models out there to choose from (some crap I agree) and only a limited amount of factories to R&D them.  I understand how to icnrease the size of the factories (keep 'em small to begin with) but do you get any more in future months/years after Dec '41 for other models?

You get them on the scheduled date without any R&D effort.

Depending on the plane and what factories upgrade to it, you might have a lot, a few, or no factories producing the plane when it is available but the availability date will never be later than indicated.

[xj900uk]

Thanks, so you're saying that new models/variants will appear on the scheduled date without any deviation.  That is very useful t o know as there are several planes I wouldn't mind appearing earlier (if I were playing the Japanese) but others I would still like to have around but don't really have the time to devote any spare R&D to
I always wonder what woudl have happened if the better Japanese aircraft, like the Jill, George, Frank and Sam were availalbe earlier, whilst there were still a few good trained pilots around to fly them and utilise their excellent capabilities

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: xj900uk

Thanks, so you're saying that new models/variants will appear on the scheduled date without any deviation.  That is very useful t o know as there are several planes I wouldn't mind appearing earlier (if I were playing the Japanese) but others I would still like to have around but don't really have the time to devote any spare R&D to
I always wonder what woudl have happened if the better Japanese aircraft, like the Jill, George, Frank and Sam were availalbe earlier, whilst there were still a few good trained pilots around to fly them and utilise their excellent capabilities

So do many other JFB's. [:D]

[xj900uk]

Interestingly, after the war in 46-47 a sole A7M Sam (or Reppu) was test-flown in the US and pitched in mock battle against the top US planes (like the P51, F4U and F8 Bearcat which was just starting to come in).  The A7M won each time especially at high altitude...