Surplus Major Power Money or Manpower ?

[kirk23_MatrixForum]

12.5.6 Surplus Major Power Money or Manpower

Any remaining money points belonging to a Major Power are available for use to meet any of that Major
Power's expenses (i.e., building depots, using depot supply, etc.) during future months. Prussian
manpower points can also be saved but those of other Major Powers are lost if not used. NOTE: Players
should reserve sufficient money for unit supply costs and other expenses during the upcoming quarter.

Why is Prussia treated differently regarding saving MANPOWER,from all other major powers ?

If Prussia can save Manpower that is not used,then that should also apply to all other powers[&:]

[fvianello]

Prussia had a levy system that allow her to quickly mobilize reserves; the rule reflecting that was in the original EiA too.

As you should know, every major power in EiA has different characteristics, so the "If Prussia can then all the MP should" makes no sense at all.

[pzgndr]

This is still open issue #521 in Mantis.

[MarshallEllis]

ORIGINAL: pzgndr

This is still open issue #521 in Mantis.

I don't think this is related??? Correct me if I'm wrong here.
He is asking about the Prussian ability to save MP and why no one else can???

[ndrose]

Yeah, I don't think there's anything that needs changing here. I've heard of some people using a house rule that allows other countries to save manpower, but I really don't like that myself. I'm with HanBarca: the beauty of EiA is its asymmetry. Otherwise you might as well allow all countries to have 4 movement points, receive gold shipments from America, and raise cossacks.

[pzgndr]

Yeah my bad.  I thought he was referring to the manpower for victory issue and the Prussian manpower as a separate issue.  As Roseanne Roseannadanna would say, Nevermind. [:D]

[MarshallEllis]

No blood no foul, pzgndr! I wasn't totally sure and needed some validation myself!
As always, thanks for ALL of your HELP!

[kirk23_MatrixForum]

ORIGINAL: HanBarca

Prussia had a levy system that allow her to quickly mobilize reserves; the rule reflecting that was in the original EiA too.

As you should know, every major power in EiA has different characteristics, so the "If Prussia can then all the MP should" makes no sense at all.

Ok I get the Idea,all Nation's are given certain advantages,that the others don't,but to simply say that Prussia had a levy system in place to quickly mobilize reserves,I'm sure they did, but France & Russia to name just 2, have huge population's to aquire all the reserve manpower that they would ever want,even Britain had the press gangs!![8D]

Maybe the answer is just add it to the gamers option's list ALLOW ALL MAJOR POWERS SAVE MANPOWER YES/NO ?

[ndrose]

I think it is meant specifically to reflect the Krümpersystem, whereby Prussia trained recruits and then did not induct them into the army, but put them in reserve (and then trained new ones, and so on). It was really only in effect from 1808 or so; if I recall correctly it was a way to get around treaty obligations that limited the size of their standing army.

[fvianello]

I think it is meant specifically to reflect the Krümpersystem

Exactly

[MarshallEllis]

ORIGINAL: ndrose

I think it is meant specifically to reflect the Krümpersystem, whereby Prussia trained recruits and then did not induct them into the army, but put them in reserve (and then trained new ones, and so on). It was really only in effect from 1808 or so; if I recall correctly it was a way to get around treaty obligations that limited the size of their standing army.

Wow! Nice history add here! I did not know this! I have learned something today!