Panzer General is reborn! PG Forever 1.0 released

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RE: Panzer General is reborn! PG Forever 1.0 released

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One thing I'd do is use the Cheat Key to increase the number of turns.. that's the one problem, not enough turns to complete the objectives!!

Yes! That's the only complaint I had against PG, is the limited number of turns. Is there a cheat key in this version that allows more turns?

Ah heck, I've downloaded it and I'll find out for myself. [:D]
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RE: Panzer General is reborn! PG Forever 1.0 released

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ORIGINAL: cmurphy625

One thing I'd do is use the Cheat Key to increase the number of turns.. that's the one problem, not enough turns to complete the objectives!!

Yes! That's the only complaint I had against PG, is the limited number of turns. Is there a cheat key in this version that allows more turns?

Ah heck, I've downloaded it and I'll find out for myself. [:D]

There's a cheat code doc in the doc folder.. I consider that one really not cheating.. since it's hard to get to the objectives even if there was no opposition in that amount of turns!!

But I think it's like Ctrl-Alt-Shift-C.. then you just type in turns space the number you want to add.... again.. think that's what I put. there's a doc for it in the docs folder...

but that was one of the only things I didn't like about the original.. that and I think if a city get's taken, you lost automatically (without getting a chance to take it again).. or maybe I'm thinking of another game..
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I dont really like using cheat codes, but I may have to give in this time... I can take one of the objectives in the time alloted but I just can't fathom how to capture them both.....

My memory is fuzzy about the original game, but I seem to remember achieving Minor or Major victorys.. Or was that in SPWAW?

The good thing about Old age is that as yer memory fades, things long forgotten become new again [:D]

I am off to get my ares kicked again..[8D]

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I dont really like using cheat codes, but I may have to give in this time... I can take one of the objectives in the time alloted but I just can't fathom how to capture them both.....

My memory is fuzzy about the original game, but I seem to remember achieving Minor or Major victorys.. Or was that in SPWAW?

The good thing about Old age is that as yer memory fades, things long forgotten become new again [:D]

I am off to get my ares kicked again..[8D]

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No your mind is not fuzzy, there were minor/major victories in the original PG....Major victories netted you additional unit slots for your core army....
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My memory may be failing too, but IIRC, you only got the extra core-unit 10% of the time.  And even then the TYPE of unit used to be a proto-type given on a random selection.




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I recall there were some "in-game" footages of the opposing forces shooting at each other, you could turn this off and on, if I recall correctly... It was as if you were looking through binoculars. Can't find this anymore though? Has this been removed?
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According to the FAQ's ingame footage is not added yet.

btw. has anyone else a hard stand to beat the first campaign scenario (Poland)? In the original Panzer General one could purchase Stukas to destroy opposing artillery.
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According to the FAQ's ingame footage is not added yet.

btw. has anyone else a hard stand to beat the first camapaign scenario (Poland)? In the original Panzer General one could purchase Stukas to destroy opposing artillery.

Ah thanks, that's what you get from not reading the FAQ's [:o]
And if I remember correctly the first scenario was difficult, your units have almost no experience. Allthough on the forum I've read some things about the new release being a tad too difficult... that might be too because of lack of experience. I remember the first scenario playing quite a few times to achieve all of the objectives. (or read reloads).
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Fantastic, I enjoy replaying PG and AG on a regular basis and this makes it so much easier as it works with windows 7!
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has anyone else a hard stand to beat the first campaign scenario (Poland)?

That's probably because of 2 reasons:

1.  This was intended for vets of the game who complain it's always too easy.
2.  The people setting the difficulty have played the same maps hundreds of times.



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I've tried the first Poland scenario 3 times on intermediate and have taken the southern objective, but not the northern.

I switched around and played as Poland and beat the AI worse than it beat me, so at least I'm not completely worthless.
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Lutzow, u couldn't purchase Stukas in the 1st scenario of the campaign, but I have played the first scenario and it appears harder than the orginal
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G'day folks what is the best resolution to run the game on. I am having problems with some text overlay?
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I have died and gone to heaven [&o][&o]

I loved these when they first came out...so simple...a great way to kill a few hours.

Now has anyone else tried Kaiser General???  Was a great idea....a bit clunky and slow...but that was WWI...it even has Zeppelins!!
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RE: Panzer General is reborn! PG Forever 1.0 released

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I've tried the first Poland scenario 3 times on intermediate and have taken the southern objective, but not the northern.

I switched around and played as Poland and beat the AI worse than it beat me, so at least I'm not completely worthless.

Red, seems to me you are jumping the gun, without understanding battle-mechanics well, like initiative and other aspects. You should hit L after each combat at first so you get a feel on how the modifiers stack up.

I did run through that scenario just now, played on the hardest AI setting, and finished in just 9 turns with 0 losses. I have supplied the combat-log here for your re-player if you wish.

Others no doubt can do better, as I made one really silly move by only realizing too late that one of my tanks was out of Ammo at one point. And then I took elite replacements on an artillery unit on turn #8, but didn't expect at the time the Allies would allow me to exploit a win a turn earlier. Even then that issue was dubious but I felt I may really need that artillery piece. Turns out I apparently didn't.


# Poland Falls in only 9 turns.
# Created by PG Forever, Version 1.0 (Dec 24 2009)
set campaign 1 0 8
setopt 1 1 1 100 0 100 0
set prestige 0 0
add outcome "MAJOR VICTORY" 3 0 ""
add outcome "MINOR VICTORY" 1 0 ""
add outcome "ALLIED VICTORY" -1 -1 ""
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mount
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Very nice! [&o]
That's the only complaint I had against PG, is the limited number of turns

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[Q] Is this legal?
[A] The legal status of my remake is similar to status of most other remakes out there. I don't have an official permission from Ubisoft to copy their game, and I doubt I could obtain such a permission. So, de jure my work is illegal.

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This is interesting. [&:]

Couldn't the guy just have patched the game, so that he'd have a fig-leaf to hide behind? Then he could claim that the "update" was intended for folks who already owned PG. As is, it appears as though he's just asking for trouble.
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Since he's not charging any money for this, I would not worry about it.

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Sorry guys, but as the author of the mod himself states, he is on very shaky ground legally. Without any permission, he has basically assumed that he has the right to do this based on the "abandonware" perspective and thus effectively distribute it for free despite past copyrights. He can promote this on his own site, but not here. Locking this up.
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