俳句 : グロティウス v. マィかラヌッ
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- Chickenboy
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RE: 1941年12月11日
upgrade quandary
many hidden rules to learn
turn off replacements
Regarding upgrading Claudes on the light carriers (which I've just done in my game), my first guess is they took replacements and now have a delay on receiving additional planes, which prevents upgrades. I would think just about anywhere in Japan is close enough to a well supplied HQ at a large airfield to satisfy all the other rules. If all else fails, try upgrading directly at a base with a 6+ airfield, an air HQ, and 20,000 supplies.
many hidden rules to learn
turn off replacements
Regarding upgrading Claudes on the light carriers (which I've just done in my game), my first guess is they took replacements and now have a delay on receiving additional planes, which prevents upgrades. I would think just about anywhere in Japan is close enough to a well supplied HQ at a large airfield to satisfy all the other rules. If all else fails, try upgrading directly at a base with a 6+ airfield, an air HQ, and 20,000 supplies.
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RE: 1941年12月11日
To upgrade Claudes now
To Takoa with air HQ
Carrier should sail
To Takoa with air HQ
Carrier should sail
RE: 1941年12月11日
I bow to you all
and learn the secrets of Claude;
but how to retire?

and learn the secrets of Claude;
but how to retire?

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1941年12月13日
Gnats irk the tiger,
but the cat brushes them off
and leaps on his prey.

but the cat brushes them off
and leaps on his prey.

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RE: 1941年12月13日
I don't think there is any reason to hold back on ground strikes against Wake and much to commend such an action. The AAA there is not bad, and the disruption caused by the strike may be the difference between success and failure.
1941年12月14日
1941年12月14日
Snow falls on cedars
Slowing the steel fish and birds
But cleansing the mind
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It has been snowing constantly here in Tokyo, slowing down our war effort, as we have lost electricity for several days. Say what you will about the colonialist President Roosevelt, I am sure his capital city would never lose power just because of some snow.
Cap-and-gown-先生, thank you for your comment. I have added a second ground unit to my liberating force, so I am hopeful I will not have to use my precious carrier birds for air bombardment, but I will do so if need be. For now, they are lingering within range to interdict any enemy ships foolish enough to attempt to intervene.
Now, back to the window, to watch the snowflakes twist and fall, like enemy airplanes.

Snow falls on cedars
Slowing the steel fish and birds
But cleansing the mind
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It has been snowing constantly here in Tokyo, slowing down our war effort, as we have lost electricity for several days. Say what you will about the colonialist President Roosevelt, I am sure his capital city would never lose power just because of some snow.
Cap-and-gown-先生, thank you for your comment. I have added a second ground unit to my liberating force, so I am hopeful I will not have to use my precious carrier birds for air bombardment, but I will do so if need be. For now, they are lingering within range to interdict any enemy ships foolish enough to attempt to intervene.
Now, back to the window, to watch the snowflakes twist and fall, like enemy airplanes.

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RE: 1941”N12ŒŽ14“ú
Mushroom grows on head
A stick grows out of man's chest
Salvadore Dali?
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Just a reminder that the faster TF must be the one set to 'follow' the slower TF. Usually, this means setting your SCTF escort to "Absolute" and following the amphibious invasion TF. If settings are reversed, the slower TF may become separated from the faster TF.
For those ships that are damaged, split them off into their own 'escort' TF. If you can, provide them with minimal escort for the trip, otherwise, they'll have to muddle through as best they can. You can't endanger the body of your TF for the sake of a damaged ship.
A stick grows out of man's chest
Salvadore Dali?
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Just a reminder that the faster TF must be the one set to 'follow' the slower TF. Usually, this means setting your SCTF escort to "Absolute" and following the amphibious invasion TF. If settings are reversed, the slower TF may become separated from the faster TF.
For those ships that are damaged, split them off into their own 'escort' TF. If you can, provide them with minimal escort for the trip, otherwise, they'll have to muddle through as best they can. You can't endanger the body of your TF for the sake of a damaged ship.

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RE: 1941”N12ŒŽ14“ú
Why the flamin' heck
Are steel fish up in cedars?
They will rust and fall.
Are steel fish up in cedars?
They will rust and fall.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
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RE: 1941年12月14日
Interesting read
How will Allies answer this
Delay in fighting
How will Allies answer this
Delay in fighting
Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
GnuPG public key available at: pgp.mit.edu
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RE: 1941年12月14日
Exceptionally fine 俳句, Chickenboy-さん, Canoerebel-さん, and morleron1-さん. The 俳句 of Canoerebel-先生 raises particularly intriguing philosphical questions, answerable only by a mind greater than mine.
*bows to Chickenboy-先生 * Hmm: that is what I used to do, but I thought things had been reversed by the Admirals Edition of this war. I thought I'd read that it is now prudent to have the faster Surface group lead, as it will slow down to allow the slower Amphibious group to catch up. That way the Surface group intercepts enemy threats first; if the amphibious group leads, it fights the colonialists first, instead of the surface group. Perhaps I'm mistaken?
In any case, I believe part of the problem I had was that while I did order the surface group to lead, I set both task forces to "high threat tolerance" rather than "absolute". The amphibious group shamefacedly turned around while the surface group kept moving forward toward glory. Or, to put it in 俳句 :
Once separated,
many turkeys were shot at,
and few made it home.
Just a reminder that the faster TF must be the one set to 'follow' the slower TF. Usually, this means setting your SCTF escort to "Absolute" and following the amphibious invasion TF.
*bows to Chickenboy-先生 * Hmm: that is what I used to do, but I thought things had been reversed by the Admirals Edition of this war. I thought I'd read that it is now prudent to have the faster Surface group lead, as it will slow down to allow the slower Amphibious group to catch up. That way the Surface group intercepts enemy threats first; if the amphibious group leads, it fights the colonialists first, instead of the surface group. Perhaps I'm mistaken?
In any case, I believe part of the problem I had was that while I did order the surface group to lead, I set both task forces to "high threat tolerance" rather than "absolute". The amphibious group shamefacedly turned around while the surface group kept moving forward toward glory. Or, to put it in 俳句 :
Once separated,
many turkeys were shot at,
and few made it home.

1941年12月15日
1941年12月15日
The rising sun wakes
the sleeping foxes and birds
and brings a red dawn

The rising sun wakes
the sleeping foxes and birds
and brings a red dawn

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RE: 1941”N12ŒŽ15“ú
One tiny red bird
Wakens and stirs, knocks off limb
Steel fish in cedar
Wakens and stirs, knocks off limb
Steel fish in cedar
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
1941年12月16日
1941年12月16日
The island awakes
as a red tide rushes in
and the palm trees sway.

The island awakes
as a red tide rushes in
and the palm trees sway.

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1941年12月17日
1941年12月17日
The river of pearls
flows to the fragrant harbor
and sweeps out the rocks.
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The river of pearls
flows to the fragrant harbor
and sweeps out the rocks.
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RE: 1941”N12ŒŽ17“ú
Shark swimming forward
So must Kido Butai be
Stillness would mean death
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Your opponent is unlikely to move his carriers anywhere near Wake island at this stage. Kido Butai would swat aside his poor quality aircraft and, through numbers and quality of pilots / airframes, summarily destroy the offending carriers. His carriers are likely anywhere BUT around Wake island.
While it is not a bad idea to support the landings at Wake with carrier air, I would caution you about a static presence for KB. One well-place submarine and a luck torpedo hit will ruin your day. Keep it moving about if you can. This will be a good practice for mid-late war where a stationary KB is undesirable for the Japanese.
Do you have a surface TF covering force available for your Wake 'liberators'? It isn't too hard for the Allies to slip a CA/CL/DD raiding SCTF into Wake if he is certain that you are still unloading troops and supplies and KB has left the area...
Banzai!
So must Kido Butai be
Stillness would mean death
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Your opponent is unlikely to move his carriers anywhere near Wake island at this stage. Kido Butai would swat aside his poor quality aircraft and, through numbers and quality of pilots / airframes, summarily destroy the offending carriers. His carriers are likely anywhere BUT around Wake island.
While it is not a bad idea to support the landings at Wake with carrier air, I would caution you about a static presence for KB. One well-place submarine and a luck torpedo hit will ruin your day. Keep it moving about if you can. This will be a good practice for mid-late war where a stationary KB is undesirable for the Japanese.
Do you have a surface TF covering force available for your Wake 'liberators'? It isn't too hard for the Allies to slip a CA/CL/DD raiding SCTF into Wake if he is certain that you are still unloading troops and supplies and KB has left the area...
Banzai!

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RE: 1941”N12ŒŽ17“ú
Red tide in harbor
Rendering it so fragrant?
Gulf Coast is laughing!
Rendering it so fragrant?
Gulf Coast is laughing!
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.