windows 7 vs vista

[SlickWilhelm]

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish
To me learning is fun, and more fun if you are trying to play a game.

I agree with you, flipper. I love learning, too.

But not everyone wants to be a geek and enjoy the mental challenge that computers can provide. To them, they just want their game to work when they start it.

Kind of like when I've had a long week at work, and I sit down with a quality Belgian ale to watch a good movie. I pop the Blue-Ray disk into my PS/3. At this point, I couldn't care less about all the technical engineering and programming that went into getting those bits up onto the screen in beautiful 1080P. I just want it to work. [:)]

[wworld7]

[quote]ORIGINAL: GoodGuy

Btw, are you sure Flipper was Irish? [;)]

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Yup,yup, yup!!!

[wworld7]

ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm

At this point, I couldn't care less about all the technical engineering and programming that went into getting those bits up onto the screen in beautiful 1080P. I just want it to work. [:)]

I absolutely agree with your desires here. Blu-ray is fantastic.

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish




DOS was great, if you knew how to use it.

DOS and other command line OS's are great for admins, not for your typical end user. And patronizing people who aren't highly technical is just showing your own insecurity.

I'm highly technical now, because that's what I do for a living. But back in the day when I was a young lad, trying to get a computer game to run by editing the config.sys and autoexec.bat was a bloody nightmare. Anyone remember trying to get enough memory into "high" memory so that your game would run?

Warts and all, Windows is a godsend to computer gaming.

Slick Wilhelm,

I was a kid too when I started with DOS. I knew nothing, but the joy of playing games and learning by trial and error actually led me into the portion of my career involving computers at a small software company (Tech Support, LAN Manager and then Manager, Information Systems). What you call a bloody nightmare to me was a great learning experiance. Sure there were nights that I "failed", but they became fewer as time went on.

Many people found Windows easier. For me, I had more difficulty with early Windows than I ever had with DOS. Only until Windows-98 came along could I say I was comfortable with it. Windows XP was a blast, Vista had no problems I couldn't overcome, and now with Windows 7 things are even better. But, for me, DOS was my greatest joy. That it was not the same for others is fine. In part, that's what keeps me employed.

Even today some network problems come up and I find a solution using some technique I learned "playing" with DOS over twenty-five year ago. To me learning is fun, and more fun if you are trying to play a game.

Yep, I like to scare people and see their reactions when I say I miss good old DOS 5.0 (got to keep them honest, DOS 6.1 would too easy). Usual reaction is a blank stare and even after 2-3 minutes they still haven't recognised what it is/was.

Oh and about himem. Still remember having to use the keyboard shortcuts in order to access CV airgroups in PacWar.

Alfred

[leena]

Windows Vista consumes ALOT OF RESOURCES. Which means, that it takes up alot of your RAM and the operating system itself is slow and less secure than Windows 7. When i mean it takes up alot of resources, i mean that it takes up alot of RAM. Basically what RAM (Random Access Memory) is the stuff that you have open, like applications, web browsers, games and the operating system etc. Things like your operating system may take up to 500MB of your RAM. If you have insufficient RAM or less RAM your computer will run really slow. Vista itself, is slow and Windows 7 is by far THE BEST Operating System that is out there. It is fast reliable, WAY MORE STABLE than Vista and XP AND Is extremely faster and EXTREMELY SECURE!!! Also, Windows XP used to be the best operating system and better than windows vista but now Windows 7 is the best and by far the best ever operating system for a long time! Need more info or got any more questions please email me Click my profile to email xD[/align]
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[SlickWilhelm]

ORIGINAL: leena

Windows Vista consumes ALOT OF RESOURCES. Which means, that it takes up alot of your RAM and the operating system itself is slow and less secure than Windows 7. When i mean it takes up alot of resources, i mean that it takes up alot of RAM. Basically what RAM (Random Access Memory) is the stuff that you have open, like applications, web browsers, games and the operating system etc. Things like your operating system may take up to 500MB of your RAM. If you have insufficient RAM or less RAM your computer will run really slow. Vista itself, is slow and Windows 7 is by far THE BEST Operating System that is out there. It is fast reliable, WAY MORE STABLE than Vista and XP AND Is extremely faster and EXTREMELY SECURE!!! Also, Windows XP used to be the best operating system and better than windows vista but now Windows 7 is the best and by far the best ever operating system for a long time! Need more info or got any more questions please email me Click my profile to email xD[/align]
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Oh leena, you are such a knowledgable and beautiful spambot. If you could cook I'd probably propose.

[gowtham]

Way too soon to tell. PCWorld did a review recently that stated the differences were very slim as far as speed was concerned. Also, there are many people screwing up their computers trying to install and uninstall Win7. There's no support for it, it's still unstable, and even Microsoft says to make sure you back everything up in case you need to reinstall your existing OS. I realize that's the same advice given when doing any installation, but yet again, it's still too new.
My prediction? People will complain about it just as much as they did about Vista. I'll wait at least a year before even considering changing over from Vista.

Also, how can anyone say Win7, when the full version isn't even out yet?? Like I said, I'll wait.
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[Knavery]

ORIGINAL: gowtham

Way too soon to tell. PCWorld did a review recently that stated the differences were very slim as far as speed was concerned. Also, there are many people screwing up their computers trying to install and uninstall Win7. There's no support for it, it's still unstable, and even Microsoft says to make sure you back everything up in case you need to reinstall your existing OS. I realize that's the same advice given when doing any installation, but yet again, it's still too new.
My prediction? People will complain about it just as much as they did about Vista. I'll wait at least a year before even considering changing over from Vista.

Also, how can anyone say Win7, when the full version isn't even out yet?? Like I said, I'll wait.
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That's a very pessimistic viewpoint, but I guess Microsoft deserves it witht their track record. I'm not saying their OS's have been horrible. I mean... I've always gotten them to work with what I needed to accomplish. But then it's nothing for me to format my hard drive and start from scratch in the middle of the week. I will say though that I think it's much more stable than XP. I have run into a few driver issues, but, I haven't had any OS crashes to speak of, and that's saying a lot with a MS product.

[wodin]

Just installed Win 7 from XP and much prefer it. Far quicker and my games play faster, some even look better due to bumpmapping.

My only gripe is the size of the icons on the desktop are massive. I can get them down to a 16 but they still look huge. Ive shoved them on my taskbar.

[martok]

ORIGINAL: Knavery

That's a very pessimistic viewpoint, but I guess Microsoft deserves it witht their track record. I'm not saying their OS's have been horrible. I mean... I've always gotten them to work with what I needed to accomplish. But then it's nothing for me to format my hard drive and start from scratch in the middle of the week. I will say though that I think it's much more stable than XP. I have run into a few driver issues, but, I haven't had any OS crashes to speak of, and that's saying a lot with a MS product.

Psst. Knavery, you've responded to a spambot. Just an FYI....

[IanAM]

ORIGINAL: wodin

My only gripe is the size of the icons on the desktop are massive. I can get them down to a 16 but they still look huge. Ive shoved them on my taskbar.

Hold down CTRL and use mouse wheel to resize Windows 7 desktop icons

[Prince of Eckmühl]

I turned off "desktop icons" altogether. Icons that I use a lot, I pin to the taskbar. The desktop icons aren't deleted, BTW. They're down on the right side of my taskbar and can be accessed by clicking on the arrows to the right of the word "Desktop." I can also get to them through Windows Explorer.

[wodin]

thanks for the tip.

[ilovestrategy]

I have 2 comps. One has Vista 64 and the other came with Windows 7. And both run smoothly and play the exact same games with no difference.

[Knavery]

ORIGINAL: martok

ORIGINAL: Knavery

That's a very pessimistic viewpoint, but I guess Microsoft deserves it witht their track record. I'm not saying their OS's have been horrible. I mean... I've always gotten them to work with what I needed to accomplish. But then it's nothing for me to format my hard drive and start from scratch in the middle of the week. I will say though that I think it's much more stable than XP. I have run into a few driver issues, but, I haven't had any OS crashes to speak of, and that's saying a lot with a MS product.

Psst. Knavery, you've responded to a spambot. Just an FYI....

Good lord. Can't we just kill the people responsible for these?

[bartholimew]

One problem you have to watch out for with Win 7, and vista for that matter is saving a file, thinking everything is OK, only to go back and the file is not there. It could be a database file, gamesave file or anything. If you are not running as admin then all your work is kept in a shadow file, and its possible to be file swapping from admin to shadow without realizing it. There is no warning.

The problem gets more complicated if you are working on a file simultaneously with multiple programs open at once. Sure you may have the program set to admin mode, but if your compiler suddenly needs to open proprietary software to debug, and you didn't set user attributes on the debugger then your work is down the tubes and you don't even know it. This was never a problem in XP. And ofcourse one finds out the hard way.

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: IanAM

ORIGINAL: wodin

My only gripe is the size of the icons on the desktop are massive. I can get them down to a 16 but they still look huge. Ive shoved them on my taskbar.

Hold down CTRL and use mouse wheel to resize Windows 7 desktop icons

Fantastic tip, thanks

[diablo1]

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

ORIGINAL: IanAM

ORIGINAL: wodin

My only gripe is the size of the icons on the desktop are massive. I can get them down to a 16 but they still look huge. Ive shoved them on my taskbar.

Hold down CTRL and use mouse wheel to resize Windows 7 desktop icons

Fantastic tip, thanks

It works with Vista 64 as well.

[jackx]

I've been running win7/x64 on my laptop for a while now, and it's great - and while just with Vista, sound drivers were a pain initially, it now works smoothly, including the 5.1 USB headset (though that requires non-original drivers and the expedient of keeping the recording device window open at all times, it's still a marked improvement over not working at all with Vista).

Regarding desktop icons, I just use a couple in addition to the default shortcuts from windows itself (for my music and current work directory, as well as a shortcut for the radio), but I do allow myself the luxury of getting them icons matching my current wallpaper/theme.
All the other shortcuts go into the "game" and "apps" taskbar menus respectively, which keeps the desktop clear for cluttering it with actual work...

[LarryP]

I would like to upgrade my desktop running XP-Pro 32 bit to Windows-7 64 bit. The main reason is that XP does not recognize more than 2 gigs of RAM. I did the /3GB in the boot.ini file and that did nothing. I have read and tried many mixed solutions but I still have 2 gb showing in the system display. BIOS says 4 gb just fine so I know it's software.

I have tons of older games and that is my main concern over Windows-7 64 bit and drivers. I don't want to not be able to play any of these games.

I wish XP 32 bit would read 4 gb like Vista 32 bit does. Ticks me off... [:@]