The Shipwreck of Their Hopes: Good'Guyz (aka "The Allies")

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RE: The Shipwreck of Their Hopes: Good'Guyz (aka "The Allies")

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Thank you, that's so great already :)

I guess the destroyers are mostly Fubuki-style, with several Akizuki units and maybe some upcoming (or already there) 37knots super-destroyer class on par with our enlarged Fletcher class which will be able to use double 5" mounts?
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Destroyers
Japanese destroyed design has gone through several phases. The most recent is the adoption of the 4.7in/60 DP gun in the Oyashio class and its follow ons. Most Japanese destroyers also carry respectable torpedo loads.

Known Units
7 x Wakatake - 900tons, 2-3 x 4.7in/45, 4 TT, 32 knots
15 x Minekaze - 1,400tons, 3-4 x 4.7in/45, 6 TT, 34 knots
9 x Kamikaze - 1,400tons, 3-4 x 4.7in/45, 6 TT, 34 knots
12 x Mutsuki - 1,500tons, 3-4 x 4.7in/45, 6 TT, 33 knots

12 x Fubuki - 1,900tons, 6 x 5in/50, 9 TT, 34 knots
11 x Ayanami - 1,900tons, 6 x 5in/50, 9 TT, 34 knots
6 x Akatsuki - 1,900tons, 6 x 5in/50, 9 TT, 34 knots

8 x Hatsuharu - 1,600tons, 5 x 5in/50, 6 TT, 33 knots
10 x Shiratsuyu - 1,600tons, 5 x 5in/50, 8 TT, 33 knots

12 x Asashio - 1,900tons, 6 x 5in/50, 8 TT, 34 knots

19 x Oyashio - 2,400tons, 6 x 4.7in/60, 8 TT, 34 knots
5+ x Akigumo - 2,500tons, 6 x 4.7in/60, 8 TT, 34 knots

As for super-destroyers, well, I'll let you find out for yourself...[;)]
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Talk about stepping directly into the hot ambers of total carnage what if war in the Pacific [:D]
What will it mean for the different sides to get sooo many new toys fuelwise?
- Have fuel stocks been increased?


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RE: The Shipwreck of Their Hopes: Good'Guyz (aka "The Allies")

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Well this was ugly for the allies, at least for the US part[:D]

The CA Ibuki  and CA Iwake between them sank 9 ships in 3 different TF's on the same turn. Was like watching a bowling ball hit the pins. Here is the combat report. My biggest concern is that KB did not attack Pearl again? They scooted off somewhere[:-] and until I can locate them Pearl Harbor may as well be on mars. I am sure fishbed will comment soon as well.

I have 2 troop convoys starting toward pearl harbor and am getting tankers together for a large fuel TF to OZ. Gathering 2 carriers south of Canton and we will decide what to do with them once there together. 2 West coast carriers (one under repair) and the one at sea (Hornet I believe) will join up and will most likely provide escort for that fuel and maybe a troop convoy to OZ, still not sure yet but of course opinions are welcome[:)]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 08, 41
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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu
 
18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      CL Ayase
      DD Shikinami
      DD Uranami
      DD Isonami
      PB Tatsumiya Maru
      SC Ch 9
      SC Ch 7
      AK Sasako Maru
      DMS W-2
 
Japanese ground losses:
      33 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
CL Ayase firing at 8th Indian Brigade
DD Shikinami firing at 8th Indian Brigade
DD Uranami firing at 8th Indian Brigade
DD Isonami firing at 8th Indian Brigade
PB Tatsumiya Maru firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 firing at enemy troops
DD Shikinami firing at enemy troops
DD Isonami firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
 
 
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TF 201 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)
 
Allied Ships
      DD Pillsbury
      DD John D. Ford
 
 
 
2 mines cleared
 
 
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TF 210 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)
 
Allied Ships
      AM Whippoorwill
      AM Lark
      AM Tanager
      AM Finch
 
 
 
24 mines cleared
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Catanduanes at 82,81, Range 11,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships               
      CA Ibuki   (these two ships really got around!!)
      CA Iwaki
 
Allied Ships
      xAKL Dos Hermanos, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
      xAKL Elcano, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
      xAKL Escalante R, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
      xAKL Sarangami, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
      xAKL Taurus, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
 
 
 
Improved night sighting under 85% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 85% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 11,000 yards
CA Ibuki fires at xAKL Sarangami at 11,000 yards
CA Iwaki fires at xAKL Elcano at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
xAKL Sarangami collides with xAKL Escalante R at 82 , 81
CA Ibuki engages xAKL Taurus at 8,000 yards
xAKL Elcano sunk by CA Ibuki at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages xAKL Taurus at 6,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAKL Escalante R at 6,000 yards
xAKL Dos Hermanos sunk by CA Iwaki at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
xAKL Sarangami sunk by CA Ibuki at 5,000 yards
xAKL Escalante R sunk by CA Ibuki at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAKL Taurus at 6,000 yards
xAKL Taurus sunk by CA Ibuki at 6,000 yards
xAKL Taurus sunk by CA Ibuki at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Catanduanes at 82,81, Range 11,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Ibuki   (Again)
      CA Iwaki
 
Allied Ships
      TK Manatawny, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
      xAK Governor Wright, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
      xAK Ravnaas, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
 
 
 
Improved night sighting under 85% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 85% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages xAK Ravnaas at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Ravnaas at 10,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Governor Wright at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages xAK Ravnaas at 8,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Governor Wright at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
TK Manatawny sunk by CA Iwaki at 5,000 yards
xAK Ravnaas sunk by CA Iwaki at 5,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages xAK Governor Wright at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
xAK Governor Wright sunk by CA Ibuki at 6,000 yards
xAK Governor Wright sunk by CA Ibuki at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 81,83, Range 10,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Ibuki  (and again!!!!)
      CA Iwaki
 
Allied Ships
      DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 2
      DD Pillsbury
      DD Pope, Shell hits 2
 
 
 
Improved night sighting under 85% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 85% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Pope at 10,000 yards
DD Pope engages CA Ibuki at 10,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages DD John D. Ford at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Pope at 8,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD John D. Ford at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages DD Pope at 6,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages DD Pillsbury at 6,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages DD John D. Ford at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages DD Pope at 7,000 yards
DD John D. Ford engages CA Ibuki at 7,000 yards
DD John D. Ford engages CA Iwaki at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages DD Pope at 10,000 yards
DD Pillsbury engages CA Ibuki at 10,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages DD John D. Ford at 10,000 yards
Task forces break off...
 
 
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ASW attack near Singora  at 51,72
 
Japanese Ships
      DMS W-1
      xAK Yahiko Maru
      SC Ch 8
      DMS W-6
 
Allied Ships
      SS KXII
 
 
 
SS KXII is sighted by escort
SC Ch 8 fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS W-6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-6 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
 
5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Tatsumiya Maru
      SC Ch 9
      SC Ch 7
      AK Sasako Maru
 
 
 
PB Tatsumiya Maru firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 firing at enemy troops
 
 
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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
 
5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Tatsumiya Maru
      SC Ch 9
      SC Ch 7
      AK Sasako Maru
 
 
 
PB Tatsumiya Maru firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 firing at enemy troops
 
 
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Sub attack near Kota Bharu  at 51,75
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Michishio
      CA Atago
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Hibiki
      DD Akatsuki
      DD Arashio
 
Allied Ships
      SS KXI, hits 5
 
 
 
SS KXI launches 4 torpedoes at DD Michishio
KXI bottoming out ....
DD Hibiki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Michishio fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hibiki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Guiuan at 83,86, Range 24,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CVE Hosho
      CVL Ryujo
      CVL Shinyo
      CA Takao
      CA Maya
      CLAA Kitakami
      DD Kuroshio
      DD Oyashio
      DD Hatsukaze
      DD Natsushio
      DD Hayashio
      DD Amatsukaze
 
Allied Ships
      DD John D. Ford
      DD Pillsbury
      DD Pope, Shell hits 1,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
 
 
 
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
CVL Shinyo  screened from combat
- escorted by DD Hayashio
CA Maya engages DD Pope at 24,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
CVL Shinyo ,  CVL Ryujo ,  CVE Hosho  screened from combat
- escorted by DD Hayashio ,  DD Natsushio ,  DD Oyashio
CA Maya engages DD Pope at 27,000 yards
CA Takao engages DD Pope at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
CVL Shinyo ,  CVL Ryujo  screened from combat
- escorted by DD Natsushio
CVL Shinyo ,  CVL Ryujo ,  CVE Hosho  screened from combat
- escorted by DD Amatsukaze ,  DD Hayashio ,  DD Hatsukaze
CA Maya engages DD Pope at 29,000 yards
CVL Shinyo ,  CVL Ryujo  screened from combat
- escorted by DD Hayashio
CA Maya engages DD Pope at 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Roxas at 79,82, Range 20,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Ibuki  (you would think they were out of ammo by now!!)
      CA Iwaki
 
Allied Ships
      PG Asheville, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
      PG Tulsa, Shell hits 3,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
      xAK Capillo, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires
      xAK Tantalus, Shell hits 7,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
 
 
 
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Nakamura, T. crosses the 'T'
CA Ibuki engages PG Asheville at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Tantalus at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages PG Asheville at 20,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages PG Asheville at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Capillo at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages PG Asheville at 19,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Tantalus at 19,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages xAK Capillo at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages PG Asheville at 15,000 yards
PG Asheville sunk by CA Ibuki at 15,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages xAK Tantalus at 15,000 yards
Nakamura, T. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 13,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages PG Tulsa at 13,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Tantalus at 13,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Capillo at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages PG Tulsa at 18,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Tantalus at 18,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Capillo at 18,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages PG Tulsa at 24,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages xAK Capillo at 24,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Busuanga at 77,81, Range 16,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Ibuki  (Nope:-))
      CA Iwaki
 
Allied Ships
      xAK Si Kiang
      xAK Yu Sang
 
 
 
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 16,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 16,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 20
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-35A x 8
      P-40B Warhawk x 9
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      P-35A: 3 destroyed
      P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 19000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      6 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 24000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 23000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 20
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-40E Warhawk x 23
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 19000 feet *
 
CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 4 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 5 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 24000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      F1M2 Pete x 6
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-40E Warhawk x 5
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      F1M2 Pete: 2 destroyed
 
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       2 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 15000 feet *
 
CAP engaged:
Sanuki Maru-1  with F1M2 Pete (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 3 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 6
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-40E Warhawk x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 19000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 6
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-40E Warhawk x 1
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 19000 feet *
 
CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on FMSV Brigade, at 51,75 (Kota Bharu)
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-IIa Sally x 51
      Ki-27b Nate x 28
      Ki-48-Ib Lily x 30
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Buffalo I x 1
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      188 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
       5 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
       7 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      10 x Ki-27b Nate sweeping at 14000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
 
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on FMSV Brigade, at 51,75 (Kota Bharu)
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 18
      G3M2 Nell x 23
      G4M1 Betty x 13
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Buffalo I x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      49 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
      13 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
       4 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
       4 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
       4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
 
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking FMSV Brigade ...
Also attacking 8th Indian Brigade ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 55th Chinese Corps, at 84,47
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-27b Nate x 9
      Ki-30 Ann x 9
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      25 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 8000 feet
               Ground Attack:  1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 77th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 55th Chinese Corps ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kota Bharu , at 51,75
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-IIa Sally x 39
      Ki-27b Nate x 12
      Ki-48-Ib Lily x 18
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      33 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 18
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet *
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      18 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
      17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 3rd ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking Kota Bharu  ...
Also attacking 3rd ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking Kota Bharu  ...
Also attacking 3rd ISF Base Force ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kota Bharu , at 51,75
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      G3M2 Nell x 15
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      15 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 14000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 51,75
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-27b Nate x 32
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim I x 7
      Blenheim IF x 4
      Blenheim IV x 12
      Buffalo I x 4
      Hudson I x 3
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Blenheim I: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
      Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
      Hudson I: 3 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Tsurugi
      BB Hyuga
      xAK Hokusho Maru
      BB Ise
      CA Atago
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x Hudson I bombing from 2000 feet *
               Naval Attack:  2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
      10 x Blenheim IV bombing from 2000 feet
               Naval Attack:  4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
       2 x Blenheim I bombing from 2000 feet
               Naval Attack:  4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
       2 x Blenheim I bombing from 2000 feet *
               Naval Attack:  2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      16 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 14000
      Raid is overhead
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (16 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      16 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 14000
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 54,76
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim I x 4
      Hudson I x 3
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
      Hudson I: 3 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
      xAP Brazil Maru
      xAK Aobasan Maru
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x Hudson I bombing from 2000 feet
               Naval Attack:  4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
       4 x Blenheim I bombing from 2000 feet
               Naval Attack:  4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 51,75
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-27b Nate x 10
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Vildebeest III x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
      BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 1
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet
               Naval Attack:  1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
 
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 14000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 14000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      F1M2 Pete x 2
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-17D Fortress x 2
      P-40B Warhawk x 9
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
      xAK Sydney Maru #2
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       2 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 15000 feet *
               Naval Attack:  4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
Sanuki Maru-1  with F1M2 Pete (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,61
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 6
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on 21st Chinese Corps, at 85,55
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-27b Nate x 8
      Ki-51 Sonia x 9
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      18 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 51,75
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-27b Nate x 19
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim I x 3
      Hudson I x 3
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 14000
      Raid is overhead
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      12 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 14000
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 54,76
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim IV x 4
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Blenheim IV: 3 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
      xAK Noto Maru
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x Blenheim IV bombing from 2000 feet
               Naval Attack:  4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Dinagat at 82,87
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 23
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-17D Fortress x 3
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
CAP engaged:
MI-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
MII-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
PI-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Roxas at 79,82
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 7
      D3A1 Val x 12
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      D3A1 Val: 2 damaged
 
Allied Ships
      xAK Capillo, Bomb hits 7,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
               Naval Attack:  1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
       4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
               Naval Attack:  1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
 
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Capillo
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Siquijor at 78,87
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 9
      B5N2 Kate x 9
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied Ships
      xAKL Latouche, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
      xAKL Kanlaon II, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
               Naval Attack:  1 x 45cm Type 98 Torp
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 6
      B5N2 Kate x 18
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
 
 
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 17
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
       6 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
 
8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Tatsumiya Maru
      SC Ch 9
      SC Ch 7
      AK Sasako Maru
 
 
 
PB Tatsumiya Maru firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 firing at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 firing at enemy troops
 
 
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Pre-Invasion action off Kota Bharu
 
17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Sozan Maru
      PB Eifuku Maru
      xAK Kurohime Maru
 
Japanese ground losses:
      6 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
PB Sozan Maru firing at enemy troops
PB Eifuku Maru firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
 
 
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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu
 
TF 164 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 51,75
 
 
 
10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 35th JAAF AF Bn /4
 
 
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Ground combat at Kota Bharu (51,75)
 
Japanese Deliberate attack
 
Attacking force 6187 troops, 44 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 212
 
Defending force 3266 troops, 40 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 91
 
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 77
 
Allied adjusted defense: 3
 
Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 1)
 
Japanese forces CAPTURE Kota Bharu !!!
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
 morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
 
Japanese ground losses:
      191 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      2213 casualties reported
         Squads: 91 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 155 destroyed, 40 disabled
         Engineers: 38 destroyed, 1 disabled
      Guns lost 34 (32 destroyed, 2 disabled)
      Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Units retreated 2
      Units destroyed 1
 
 
Assaulting units:
    56th Infantry Rgt /1
    12th Engineer Regiment
    23rd Ind. Engr Rgt /1
    35th JAAF AF Bn /1
    55th Const Co
    5th JAAF AF Coy
    36th JAAF AF Bn /1
 
Defending units:
    FMSV Brigade
    8th Indian Brigade
    3rd ISF Base Force
 
 
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Ground combat at Aparri (82,73)
 
Japanese Deliberate attack
 
Attacking force 2159 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 68
 
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 33
 
Allied adjusted defense: 1
 
Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 (fort level 0)
 
Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri !!!
 
Combat modifiers
Attacker:
 
 
 
Assaulting units:
    Sasebo 1st SNLF
    24th JAAF AF Bn
   
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Talk about stepping directly into the hot ambers of total carnage what if war in the Pacific [:D]
What will it mean for the different sides to get sooo many new toys fuelwise?
- Have fuel stocks been increased?

Not really - for the Allies the problem has always been tankers, not fuel itself, and for the Japanese it means you need to be a little more thoughtful about sending out the entire fleet.



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 10



Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 1



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes

A nice way to greet the Japanese off Malaya! [:D]
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ORIGINAL: miller41

Japanese Ships
     CA Ibuki  (you would think they were out of ammo by now!!)
     CA Iwaki

Allied Ships
     PG Asheville, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
     PG Tulsa, Shell hits 3,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     xAK Capillo, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires
     xAK Tantalus, Shell hits 7,  heavy fires,  heavy damage


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Busuanga at 77,81, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     CA Ibuki  (Nope:-))
     CA Iwaki

Allied Ships
     xAK Si Kiang
     xAK Yu Sang



Could not stop laughing at this one [:D].

Ok guys, keep on this AAR !
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That Vilderbeest heroic action sure was a rare pleasure. Unfortunately, when this kind of pleasure, like the one before this one, has to come from a uber WW1 like steel biplan, you wonder what's wrong with, you know, your MODERN airforce...

At least not raid coordination...
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...but if you end up hitting no damn $hit, well it's a little vain.

But they had one merit: they opened the way for these guys:
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Severe damage... Yummy!

Apart from that,  Im amazed at the power of the Japanese land air... There were nearly 200+ planes over tommy's head down there in Malaysia... this sounds like a mission for the AVG...!
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Someone needs to post that flight coordination on Castor Troy's AAR.  LOL.
 
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I think they're going for Sorong.

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Let's see what I can muster to counter that...
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I think we got lucky... again ^^

Don't know what the transports were waiting for, but still, I'll take what Im given anyday. Too bad I just sent one single DD there, there could have been 4 of them. Nevermind, he did a very clean job sweeping everyone like a big boy.

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Morotai at 80,101, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     xAKL Tomozono Maru #3, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
     PB Kure Maru #5, Shell hits 5,  on fire
     xAK Nittai Maru, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires
     xAK Shinkoku Maru
     xAK Shinwa Maru
     xAKL Ujigawa Maru, Shell hits 1,  heavy fires
     xAKL Heiwa Maru, Shell hits 4,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     xAKL Hitora Maru, Shell hits 9,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     xAKL Higari Maru, Shell hits 3,  on fire
     xAKL Genmei Maru
     xAKL Daitei Maru, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires
     xAKL Taiyu Maru
     PB Hakata Maru #2, Shell hits 3,  on fire

Allied Ships
     DD Stewart, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses: ----> Uhuhuh good kill ratio little buddy!
      836 casualties reported
        Squads: 7 destroyed, 19 disabled
        Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 72 disabled
        Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
     Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 16,000 yards
Japanese ships attempt to get underway
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 16,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru ,
  xAKL Taiyu Maru ,  xAKL Daitei Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Hakata Maru #2
DD Stewart engages xAKL Tomozono Maru #3 at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru  screened from combat
Range closes to 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Stewart engages PB Hakata Maru #2 at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru  screened from combat
DD Stewart engages PB Hakata Maru #2 at 6,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Daitei Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Heiwa Maru at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Daitei Maru at 4,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru ,
  xAKL Taiyu Maru ,  xAKL Daitei Maru ,  xAKL Genmei Maru  screened from combat
DD Stewart engages PB Hakata Maru #2 at 4,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Hitora Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Ujigawa Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru  screened from combat
DD Stewart engages xAKL Hitora Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Hitora Maru at 3,000 yards
xAKL Tomozono Maru #3 sunk by DD Stewart at 3,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Hakata Maru #2
DD Stewart engages PB Kure Maru #5 at 3,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Higari Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Hitora Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Heiwa Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Ujigawa Maru at 3,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Hakata Maru #2
DD Stewart engages PB Kure Maru #5 at 3,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Genmei Maru at 3,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Hitora Maru at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru  screened from combat
DD Stewart engages xAK Nittai Maru at 2,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Daitei Maru at 2,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Heiwa Maru at 2,000 yards
Perry R. orders Allied TF to disengage
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru ,
  xAKL Taiyu Maru ,  xAKL Daitei Maru ,  xAKL Genmei Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Hakata Maru #2
DD Stewart engages xAKL Heiwa Maru at 2,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Hitora Maru at 2,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Heiwa Maru at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru ,
  xAKL Taiyu Maru ,  xAKL Daitei Maru ,  xAKL Genmei Maru ,
  xAKL Higari Maru ,  xAKL Hitora Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Hakata Maru #2
DD Stewart engages PB Kure Maru #5 at 6,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Heiwa Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Stewart engages xAKL Ujigawa Maru at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru  screened from combat
DD Stewart engages PB Hakata Maru #2 at 9,000 yards
DD Stewart engages PB Kure Maru #5 at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru  screened from combat
DD Stewart engages PB Hakata Maru #2 at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
xAK Shinwa Maru ,  xAK Shinkoku Maru ,  xAK Nittai Maru ,
  xAKL Taiyu Maru ,  xAKL Daitei Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Hakata Maru #2
DD Stewart engages xAKL Ujigawa Maru at 16,000 yards
Task forces break off...

Problem is, the captain gave probably some whisky to everyone afterwards to celebrate, and most probably a whole bottle to the lookout guy, whose next deed was to mistake the third of the whole IJN battleline for some kind of wild whale pack or something. Seconds later, he had a smile sixteen inches wide. Too bad.

In those tragic days, such a beautiful story had to come to an ugly halt someday. It happened less than 40 miles away in the south, and the gallant crew fought on, giving the flabbergasted escort a last illustration of America's will to fight to the end! You will be remembered, USS Stewart!

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Gebe at 82,104, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CS Chiyoda
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Tosa
BB Kaga
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Shigure
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi
DD Mikazuki
DD Yakaze
DD Wakatake
DD Kuretake
DD Kaosame

Allied Ships
DD Stewart, Shell hits 6, and is sunk



Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 19,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 19,000 yards
BB Kaga engages DD Stewart at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
BB Kaga engages DD Stewart at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
BB Kaga engages DD Stewart at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Stewart sunk by BB Kaga at 10,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

S, brave little one! You will be missed! Mike, John, shame on you, it's like having an elephant fart on a fly, how could you?!

(but now, seriously, if I could rely on anything else than biplans and WW1 flush deck destroyers for a change, the average Allied taxpayer would be glad to know that he/she didn't throw his/her money out there in the wild just for fun during the thirties...!)
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[:D]That's just classic fishbed, gotta love your portrayal of the odds[&o]
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Anyone care to comment on what the best use of the Queen Elizabeth is? I am unsure where to send her and she is much faster than you average ship[:D] How do you allied fanboys use this big asset.
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I'd use her for off map movements: she's too big of an asset to be risked - anyway there are only few ports which can handle her, and they are all in Australia (well there's Singapore too but hum). You'd better send me some GIs through Capetown instead [:'(] [;)]
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Hey everyone!

Strategy isn't my best spot. Those days I am very worried about the course of the war, and I am not sure where I should reinforce myself.

- Malaya: I am trying to turn Georgetown into a strongpoint. The thing is I hope the enemy may be obliged to shock attack his way into Georgetown/Penang, but Im not really sure about this. Can someone give me some advice on this?

I may go as far as landing the Burmese reinforcements in Georgetown in order to stall the enemy advance in the sector, overkilling the troops coming from Thailand. Do you think this is realistic? I am not sure about what I face yet. But I know next turn the IJA will land in Kuantan. I am not really sure if I can hold singapore for long. Transports are waiting close-by in order to quickly evacuate as many troops as possible if the situation gets bad. We will make a stand north-east of Kuala Lumpur too, the terrain there seems to be good.

- Indonesia: enemy troops will land in Ambon tomorrow - but I have Gill and Sparrow Forces embarking right now to provide some relief. The force is apparently covered by a 4BB strong battleline and baby KB - I think they're both gonna support the invasion and go resupply. Force Z (2xBC) is pretty close, one modern BB is 2 days away, and Force X (Illustrious + BB) will be there soon too. I will try to sneak troops in there and stall the attack, or retake the base, as there is only 1 SNLF attacking. I guess the Stewart pretty well shot up the rear-echelon troops which were supposed to land there, and tonight a flesh-deck AVP is trying to kill more troops. I hope Zeroes won't start to fly from Ambon right away...

- As you see, I already gave up pretty well on defending Darwin. Seeing the other AARs, I thought that those troops would be more useful in DEI than defending a place that just can't get defended. with Ken, we're gonna prepare to give up N-W australia I think, there's no way to reinforce the place well enough. Im not gonna give up the West coast though. If my "indian" units don't reinforce Malaya or Java, well they'll go to Perth. That's where the line will be drawn in the sand for Australia.

- I have to protect eastern India and Ceylon too, especially if Burma, because of our rules, may become a part-time theater. I count on the new troops for this, but I don't know how long the DEI will stand a 10+BB and 8+ CV kaigun. Let's make this as bloody as it can get for the Japanese.

Any remarks? Im a full campaign newbie, so i'll take anything related to South-East Asia, really!
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Hi Fishbed

Difficult to give definitive answers about what to do in Malaya, but I can give you my preference and a few pitfalls to definitiely avoid.

Re Geogetown -

My personal preference it to get everyone back to Singapore rather than have them dissipate their strength in lots of small battles. Any unit that is forced to retreat loses any combat value for.....well, longer than their expected lifespan. May be worth leaving behind some of the really small units dotted around as each one will take a day to clear. Also - try not to allow him to paradrop on any base. Having to attack the base takes a day and Malaya is all about delay. Very important to set everyone to be preparing for Singapore as soon as possible.

I wouldn't bring anyone in from Burma - mainly because, if your opponent is alive to it, they'll probably just get drowned at sea. If you do be careful not to bring in units that are part of the Burma 1st division as you will not be able to form it if an element is lost (and divisions fight better than a collection of their subunits).

You are being a lot more aggressivewith your LCU's than I am. Normally I am shipping units to Oz and India, rather than sending them the other way. Just remember when you are on the defence strategically, losing a battle may well mean surrender and whole units disappear. They are then not available for defending the next point. Ambon will be taken. Be sure that the extra delay achieved is worth permanently losing the LCU's you ship in (or at least for a long time if you extract a cadre for rebuilding). Also Gull and Sparrow are part of an Ozzie division which you will not be able to form if they are lost.
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John III is the most aggressive player I've seen.

A relatively inexperienced and aggressive Allied commander will likely be serving John meals on a platter.

There is a chance, though, that you might accomplish things that will frustrate and slow the enemy. That chance, I believe, is considerably less than the chance you'll be feeding the enemy.

Bottom line, though, is that the presence of Allied carriers is the biggest factor for the Allies in '42. If you have them (or at least any losses are offset by equal Japanese carrier losses), the Japanese have to be much more cautious. Lose a big carrier battle, though, and the Japanese can go where they want when they want (and usually multiple directions at a time).

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ORIGINAL: Yakface

I wouldn't bring anyone in from Burma - mainly because, if your opponent is alive to it, they'll probably just get drowned at sea. If you do be careful not to bring in units that are part of the Burma 1st division as you will not be able to form it if an element is lost (and divisions fight better than a collection of their subunits).

This isn't really correct, you can lose some of the elements that make up the Burma Division, like the brigades, artillery units, etc. and still be able to rebuild the complete division (same goes for Australians, you'll only need one of the bird battalions to rebuild the whole division). However, if you split up your units yourself (into the A,B,C subunits again not the 1,2,3, etc. you get when transporting), you will have to have every subunit to be able to rebuild the division.
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I have to disagree with Canoerebel, John is aggressive but he isn't very strategic. He sees targets and hits them and strings operations together through happenstance rather than a deep strategic plan. This can be used, IMO, to lead him where you wish.

The problem for the Allies is that the Japanese have been enhanced in this scenario and thus the Allies need to be aware that the Japanese are likely to be able to advance farther faster than stock by virtue of those enhancements.
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Yes AJ and I were discussing this. It is possible that John may hit Australia from 2 places, they have the carrier support to do it. We already know Darwin is a wash, so it will not be defended. But we think Perth can be (due to the rail line there is is much easier to reinforce) and plan to build it up. Of course they could go somewhere else but odds are they will go to the SE, best place to advance and also delay the allies. 
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Hey everyone!

Strategy isn't my best spot. Those days I am very worried about the course of the war, and I am not sure where I should reinforce myself.

- Malaya: I am trying to turn Georgetown into a strongpoint. The thing is I hope the enemy may be obliged to shock attack his way into Georgetown/Penang, but Im not really sure about this. Can someone give me some advice on this?
Goodness no! Georgetown is nothing but a surrender sack. They are not obliged to shock attack into Georgetown. Even if they were, there's no way out for you. At low fort levels, you're selling yourselves too cheaply.
I may go as far as landing the Burmese reinforcements in Georgetown in order to stall the enemy advance in the sector, overkilling the troops coming from Thailand. Do you think this is realistic? I am not sure about what I face yet. But I know next turn the IJA will land in Kuantan. I am not really sure if I can hold singapore for long. Transports are waiting close-by in order to quickly evacuate as many troops as possible if the situation gets bad. We will make a stand north-east of Kuala Lumpur too, the terrain there seems to be good.
Fishbed, you're killin' me. Don't bring any more troops into the area than are already there. The Burmese rabble are THE WORST LCUs in the game. Full stop. Get them out of Burma in good order, let them fill out their TOEs and gain experience by prepping for a target. Don't force them into mass suicide, please.

- Indonesia: enemy troops will land in Ambon tomorrow - but I have Gill and Sparrow Forces embarking right now to provide some relief. The force is apparently covered by a 4BB strong battleline and baby KB - I think they're both gonna support the invasion and go resupply. Force Z (2xBC) is pretty close, one modern BB is 2 days away, and Force X (Illustrious + BB) will be there soon too. I will try to sneak troops in there and stall the attack, or retake the base, as there is only 1 SNLF attacking. I guess the Stewart pretty well shot up the rear-echelon troops which were supposed to land there, and tonight a flesh-deck AVP is trying to kill more troops. I hope Zeroes won't start to fly from Ambon right away...
I'd make sure that those BBs and SCTFs are out of dodge before trying a counterlanding. However, I like the idea of striking them with your BB force, even if outnumbered.

- As you see, I already gave up pretty well on defending Darwin. Seeing the other AARs, I thought that those troops would be more useful in DEI than defending a place that just can't get defended. with Ken, we're gonna prepare to give up N-W australia I think, there's no way to reinforce the place well enough. Im not gonna give up the West coast though. If my "indian" units don't reinforce Malaya or Java, well they'll go to Perth. That's where the line will be drawn in the sand for Australia.
I'm down with that.

- I have to protect eastern India and Ceylon too, especially if Burma, because of our rules, may become a part-time theater. I count on the new troops for this, but I don't know how long the DEI will stand a 10+BB and 8+ CV kaigun. Let's make this as bloody as it can get for the Japanese.

Any remarks? Im a full campaign newbie, so i'll take anything related to South-East Asia, really!
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