The Shipwreck of Their Hopes: Good'Guyz (aka "The Allies")

[Fishbed]

Thanks everyone! Thanks for the tips Chickenboy. I am waiting for northern troops to join in Georgetown, then I'll retreat southbound along the nice road, just leaving the force bases to be evacuated to Sumatra when the enemy will draw nearer. Ive put up a road-block just north of Kuala Lumpur in a jungle+mountain hex and behind a river, let's hope it can slow them down if the Kuantan and the Kota Bharu forces don't get there at the same time.
Well it seems the enemy may come for Mersing. I am throwing the kitchen sink there.

About reinforcements: yes we're giving up on Malaya. I'll send some troops to port Blair to protect my build up there, and the rest of them in Burma and Australia I guess. I suppose everyone advises me not to commit anything else to Singapore?

About the DEI: little KB raced to Sorong last turn, probably to provide somekind of air cover for the Ambon landing. I think they know we're building up in the area. So I'll strike him someplace he's weak instead. More of this next turn I guess [:)]

Not doing a detailed report yet - my stomach is in shatters (that's the main reason why it was so long before I send the new turn, apologies - Hey Chickenboy, thanks for your little tropical friends [:D] [;)]). The turn has been very sub-heavy. I lost another couple tankers - I think I'll give up DEI fuel evac, it's too risky for what it is. At least, that's fuel they will never have.
Dutch Subs were mervellous, and sank 2 xAK & 1 xAKL (with a double kill and a ASW game for KXV!). Cam Ranh Bay will be soon crowded with ships, including ships bringing land units, so I have to stick to the place and try to disrupt the reinforcement effort.

Submarine attack near Cam Ranh Bay  at 65,72

Japanese Ships
     xAK Somedono Maru, Torpedo hits 1,  heavy damage

Allied Ships
     SS KXV



xAK Somedono Maru is sighted by SS KXV
SS KXV launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Somedono Maru


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Submarine attack near Cam Ranh Bay  at 65,72

Japanese Ships
     xAKL Banshu Maru #18, Torpedo hits 1,  heavy damage

Allied Ships
     SS KXV



xAKL Banshu Maru #18 is sighted by SS KXV
SS KXV launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Banshu Maru #18


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Japanese Ships
     xAK Tamaki Maru, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
     xAK Meiten Maru
     xAK Kansai Maru
     SC Ch 8
     DMS W-6

Allied Ships
     SS KXII, hits 5



SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Tamaki Maru
SC Ch 8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS W-6 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 8 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 8 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Another nice combat this turn was the gallant attack of the Allied PT force in the Phillipines. Very aggressive commanders completely change the behavior of such TF, it will never be said often enough.

Night Time Surface Combat, near San Fernando at 80,74, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     PB Bisan Maru #3
     AMc Choun Maru #7
     PB Choun Maru #18, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
     xAK Sydney Maru
     xAK Anyo Maru
     xAK Kumagawa Maru
     xAK Tatukami Maru, Shell hits 1
     xAK Okiyu Maru
     xAK Kosei Maru
     xAK Kotoku Maru
     xAK Keisho Maru
     xAK Hokuan Maru
     xAK Maya Maru
     xAK Takaoka Maru
     xAK Atlas Maru
     xAK Kamoi Maru
     xAK Shinyubari Maru
     xAK Shirogane Maru
     xAK Tenzan Maru
     xAK Yamadori Maru
     xAK Karachi Maru
     xAK Pacific Maru
     xAK Kuwayama Maru
     xAK Siraha Maru
     xAK Chuko Maru

Allied Ships
     MTB 11
     MTB 12
     MTB 26



Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Low visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 57% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 57% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
xAK Chuko Maru ,  xAK Siraha Maru ,  xAK Kuwayama Maru ,
  xAK Pacific Maru ,  xAK Karachi Maru ,  xAK Yamadori Maru ,
  xAK Tenzan Maru ,  xAK Shirogane Maru ,  xAK Shinyubari Maru ,
  xAK Kamoi Maru ,  xAK Atlas Maru ,  xAK Takaoka Maru ,
  xAK Maya Maru ,  xAK Hokuan Maru ,  xAK Keisho Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Choun Maru #18
PB Bisan Maru #3 engages MTB 26 at 1,000 yards
PB Choun Maru #18 sunk by MTB 12 at 1,000 yards
MTB 26 engages xAK Tatukami Maru at 1,000 yards
MTB 26 engages xAK Kumagawa Maru at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
PB Bisan Maru #3 engages MTB 26 at 2,000 yards
MTB 26 engages xAK Pacific Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 26 engages xAK Yamadori Maru at 2,000 yards
AMc Choun Maru #7 engages MTB 26 at 2,000 yards
MTB 26 engages xAK Tatukami Maru at 2,000 yards
PB Bisan Maru #3 engages MTB 26 at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
AMc Choun Maru #7 engages MTB 12 at 2,000 yards
MTB 26 engages xAK Kosei Maru at 2,000 yards
PB Bisan Maru #3 engages MTB 26 at 2,000 yards
MTB 11 engages xAK Chuko Maru at 2,000 yards
Moorhead H. orders Allied TF to disengage
Task forces break off...

Unfortunately, the US and Philippino PTs met their match. Bad luck here.

Night Time Surface Combat, near San Fernando at 80,74, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     CL Abukuma
     DD Natsugumo
     DD Minegumo
     DD Asagumo
     DD Murasame
     DD Harusame
     DD Yudachi
     DD Samidare

Allied Ships
     PT-31, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
     PT-33, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
     PT-34
     PT-41
     PT Q-112, Shell hits 1
     PT Q-113



Low visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 57% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 57% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare fires at PT Q-112 at 2,000 yards
DD Yudachi fires at PT Q-112 at 2,000 yards
PT-33 sunk by DD Samidare at 2,000 yards
PT-31 sunk by DD Harusame at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages PT Q-113 at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages PT Q-112 at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages PT-34 at 2,000 yards
DD Murasame engages PT-41 at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages PT Q-113 at 5,000 yards
Task forces break off...

...but came back with a vengeance! That's an expensive 13-points worth little pest they sent to the bottom here! That's already worth the coast of 13 PTs in itself...

Day Time Surface Combat, near San Fernando at 80,74, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     DMS W-15
     DMS W-16
     DMS W-19
     PB Kamitsu Maru
     PB Taiko Maru
     SC Ch 1
     SC Ch 2
     SC Ch 3
     SC Ch 13, Shell hits 2
     SC Ch 14
     SC Ch 15
     xAK Arizona Maru, Shell hits 3
     xAK Akiura Maru, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
     xAK Kazuura Maru
     xAK Keiyo Maru
     xAK Matsukawa Maru
     xAK Ohio Maru
     xAK Yuzan Maru
     xAK Anzan Maru #2
     xAKL Kurama Maru

Allied Ships
     PT-34, Shell hits 1
     PT-41
     PT Q-112
     PT Q-113



Low visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 3,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 3,000 yards
Japanese ships attempt to get underway
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 3,000 yards
xAK Anzan Maru #2 ,  xAK Yuzan Maru ,  xAK Ohio Maru ,
  xAK Matsukawa Maru ,  xAK Keiyo Maru ,  xAK Kazuura Maru ,
  xAK Akiura Maru ,  xAK Arizona Maru ,  xAKL Kurama Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Kamitsu Maru ,  SC Ch 14 ,  SC Ch 13 ,
  SC Ch 2
DMS W-19 engages PT-41 at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAK Anzan Maru #2 ,  xAK Yuzan Maru ,  xAK Ohio Maru ,
  xAK Matsukawa Maru ,  xAK Keiyo Maru ,  xAK Kazuura Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by PB Taiko Maru ,  PB Kamitsu Maru
DMS W-19 engages PT Q-113 at 2,000 yards
PT-41 engages SC Ch 13 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-19 engages PT-34 at 2,000 yards
DMS W-19 engages PT Q-113 at 2,000 yards
PT Q-112 engages xAK Akiura Maru at 2,000 yards
PT Q-112 engages xAK Arizona Maru at 2,000 yards
Escobar R. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 3,000 yards
xAK Anzan Maru #2 ,  xAK Yuzan Maru ,  xAK Ohio Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by SC Ch 15
PB Taiko Maru engages PT Q-113 at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
xAK Anzan Maru #2 ,  xAK Yuzan Maru  screened from combat
- escorted by SC Ch 2
PB Kamitsu Maru engages PT Q-113 at 7,000 yards
DMS W-19 engages PT Q-113 at 7,000 yards
PT Q-113 engages xAK Keiyo Maru at 7,000 yards
Task forces break off...

In Manilla, the Royal Navy is playing with the Rikkos, and they make them look like fools. The hit ratio on such small targets with torpedoes (with VERY BAD weather) indeed looks like something much more realistic now (do you remember early WitP betties scoring on PT-boats? ^^).

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Manila at 79,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M2 Zero x 18
     G3M2 Nell x 4
     G4M1 Betty x 42



Japanese aircraft losses
     G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
     DD Thracian
     DD Scout
     DD Thanet



Aircraft Attacking:
     17 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 45cm Type 98 Torp
     14 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 45cm Type 98 Torp
      4 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 45cm Type 98 Torp
     11 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 45cm Type 98 Torp

A little vengeance: the enemy attacks Sorong, instead of going directly for Ambon (thanks, gave me some time to evacuate bits of the powerful base force there). But terrible xAKL Mauban looms in the shadows, and meets part of baby KB. For more than a dozen rounds (!), both TF get closer or further from each other, until both sight each other. In the ensuing panic, some fun happens to HIJMS Kitakami and one of its big guys. Kitakami is listed as sunk (well I don't really believe in early christmas this year though, Intel guys...).

Day Time Surface Combat, near Sorong at 83,106, Range 13,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     CVE Hosho
     CVL Ryujo
     CVL Shinyo
     BC Kongo
     BC Haruna
     CA Takao
     CA Maya
     CLAA Kitakami
     DD Kuroshio
     DD Oyashio
     DD Hatsukaze
     DD Natsushio
     DD Hayashio
     DD Amatsukaze

Allied Ships
     xAKL Mauban, Shell hits 2



Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards
[...]
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 7,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
Both TF attempt to withdraw!
Range increases to 13,000 yards...
Range increases to 20,000 yards
CVL Ryujo collides with CLAA Kitakami at 83 , 106
DD Hayashio engages xAKL Mauban at 20,000 yards
Task forces break off...

[Fishbed]

I have to disagree with Canoerebel, John is aggressive but he isn't very strategic. He sees targets and hits them and strings operations together through happenstance rather than a deep strategic plan. This can be used, IMO, to lead him where you wish.

Indeed, I think this is what just happened in Sorong: didn't look like he planned it from the start. In Morotai, the TF that get mauled is landing troops on a deserted island, he's lucky I don't have anything bigger than a PB there (he sent a couple destroyers to protect the place). But I think I know where I can get a cheap victory in the next two turns. The question is: do I want to gamble for Ambon, or try something else I know will most probably succeed, but may not have the same consequences? Well, let's see.

[Fishbed]

Guys, got a good free screen capture software to tell me about? My beloved GrabClipSave does not work well with my new windows... [:(]

[JuanG]

I used IrfanView personally, with Paint.net for editing.

Not at a pc so don't have the link, but it shouldn't be hard to find on google.

Edit - IrfanView Website

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Fishbed

Guys, got a good free screen capture software to tell me about? My beloved GrabClipSave does not work well with my new windows... [:(]

I've read good things about IrfanView but have not used it. I'm using this one: Greenshot

It's free & open source, it's real simple, works well, wide range of file types and save options.


BTW, I was using ScreenHunter free, but it only copied at 72 dpi, whereas my screen is 96 dpi. They require registration for $29 to unlock various functions like 100% resolution.

[kfmiller41]

I will be taking screenshots also, I have a program I bought (I know what a terrible thought[:D]) called snagit. We just got beaten around the head and shoulders that last turn, there seems to be a million jap aircraft and carriers all over

[Fishbed]

You can talk about the turn Miller if you want to. My a$$ is too much in pain for that right now [:D] [;)]

[Fishbed]

Some better action today, but our trap didn't spring that well... Damn! A golden opportunity missed, all of this because apparently my BB captain didn't feel like using his main battery. More details tomorrow I think...

[Rob Brennan UK]

I use the free version of this one http://www.fxfoto.com/

Easy to use and has all the options you need to add text and draw on it .. [;)]

Welcome to the light Fish ! good to see you fighting the good fight for once [:D]

[kfmiller41]

Well from what I saw of the replay round it looks like you mail battery did hit several times. You were firing from 20000 yards and the BC hit several times. Otherwise it is still duck and cover.

Here is the combat report, Jap cruisers did get off well and gave as good as they got/ 

Day Time Surface Combat, near Tandjoengselor at 69,95, Range 25,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Ibuki, Shell hits 1
CA Iwaki, Shell hits 9, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 2
CL Mauritius
CL Omaha, Shell hits 1
CL Phoenix
DD Barker, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Bulmer
DD Paul Jones
DD Parrott
DD Vendetta
DD Stronghold
DD Isis
BB Jellicoe, Shell hits 3



Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 25,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CA Houston at 25,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Isis at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CA Houston at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Isis at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Stronghold at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Vendetta at 20,000 yards
Nakamura, T. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 17,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 17,000 yards
CA Houston engages CA Iwaki at 17,000 yards
CL Omaha engages CA Iwaki at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 16,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages CA Houston at 16,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages CA Iwaki at 16,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Omaha at 16,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Stronghold at 16,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Bulmer at 16,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Barker at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 15,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Omaha at 15,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Isis at 15,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Bulmer at 15,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Barker at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 17,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 17,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Phoenix at 17,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 19,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CA Houston at 19,000 yards
CL Omaha engages CA Iwaki at 19,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Stronghold at 19,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Vendetta at 19,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Barker at 19,000 yards
Range increases to 20,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 20,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages CA Houston at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Omaha at 20,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Mauritius at 20,000 yards
Range increases to 22,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 22,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 22,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Stronghold at 22,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages CA Houston at 24,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Vendetta at 24,000 yards
Nakamura, T. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 26,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 26,000 yards
CA Houston engages CA Iwaki at 26,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages CA Iwaki at 26,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Omaha at 26,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Stronghold at 26,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 26,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 26,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages CA Iwaki at 26,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 27,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 27,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Phoenix at 27,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 27,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CA Houston at 27,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 27,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 27,000 yards
CA Ibuki engages CL Omaha at 27,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 26,000 yards
CA Houston engages CA Ibuki at 26,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Tandjoengselor at 70,94, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Ibuki
CA Iwaki, Shell hits 8, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 1
CL Mauritius
CL Omaha
CL Phoenix
DD Bulmer
DD Paul Jones
DD Parrott
DD Vendetta
DD Stronghold, heavy damage
BB Jellicoe, Shell hits 2



Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
BB Jellicoe collides with DD Stronghold at 70 , 94
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 23,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CA Houston at 23,000 yards
CL Omaha engages CA Iwaki at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 17,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages CA Iwaki at 17,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Mauritius at 17,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Vendetta at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 14,000 yards
CA Houston engages CA Ibuki at 14,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Paul Jones at 14,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Bulmer at 14,000 yards
Nakamura, T. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 11,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 11,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CA Houston at 11,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Stronghold at 11,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Parrott at 11,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Bulmer at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages CL Mauritius at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 18,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages CA Iwaki at 18,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Iwaki at 18,000 yards
CA Iwaki engages DD Stronghold at 18,000 yards
Range increases to 22,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Iwaki at 22,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 22,000 yards
CL Omaha engages CA Iwaki at 22,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Iwaki at 22,000 yards
Range increases to 26,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 26,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 26,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
BB Jellicoe engages CA Ibuki at 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...

[Fishbed]

Well, even that far (I checked, you can guess, I was totally excited) all hits were from the 5.5' battery...!

[kfmiller41]

time to promote the 5.5" battery crews to bigger guns then

[Fishbed]

Miller please make the update, I am too depressed for this mate. I lost 6000 brave Chinese soldiers just because Im too dumb to see a river when I move a stack. Well no, it's ok, Im gonna sweep my own sh*t right. [:o]
But I'll talk only about the bigger stuff, I am just too sad...!

All - Thanks for the recommandations, I chose Greenshot in the end. Works pretty well

Rob - Thanks mate [;)] and now please stay in the boat! Many more exciting action to come for the RN! But, hell, you'd better go there and kick some asses: those guys can't hit sh*t, I am VERY DISAPPOINTED! I just checked: the whole 15' ammo was expended FOR NILL. Man, I hate that stuff sometimes, grrr!
To add insult to injury, brave Stronghold collides with BB Jellicoe, and is 95 float now. Bye bye, buddy. This sucks. THEY WILL PAY!



No chance I'm letting them get away with it. One of the Cruisers must be limping: it HAS to go down at any cost. The RN is sucking some more Japanese blood tonight again, chaps!

Elsewhere: the average terrible situation. I got tricked at Mersing, the enemy landed as much as 600 AV on the first day. Well, honestly, I'd have brung the whole Malayan army there I guess it wouldn't have changed much. I think that Sir Robin has to come to the rescue now. Well, sort of.

Now the "good" news: at least the Dutch submarines made some kills - one had non-exploding torps, but the other one killed one precious DD (probably from the KB screen). One dead, a hundred left to go! And that's not that many... [8D]



But everytime they do something cool like that, they have to come back limping... Hum IJN ASW is a little bit better in Juan's mod I guess?

And, as a last sidenote, some transports got torched in front of Ambon with little Imperial soldiers aboard. Good guys!



But in the end, seriously, how can that be possible:

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10486 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1696

Defending force 14905 troops, 116 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 553

Allied adjusted assault: 0 --> WTF MAN?!

Japanese adjusted defense: 307

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)


Allied ground losses:
     6008 casualties reported
        Squads: 204 destroyed, 156 disabled
        Non Combat: 134 destroyed, 205 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled


Assaulting units:
   8th Chinese Corps
   45th Chinese Corps
   2nd Chinese Corps
   68th Chinese Corps
   32nd Chinese Corps
   67th Chinese Corps
   75th Chinese Corps
   26th Group Army

Defending units:
   34th Division
   13th RGC Temp. Division

Didn't plan especially on attacking, I was just moving my troops around, honest. Just didn't see the river (or didn't notice Id say), it's the first time I am moving troops elsewhere than over the Owen Stanley Range, so... But how can a ZERO ajusted AV actually be even remotely possible?! I mean, the malus does divide the AV number, it does not substract from it, right? In this case a 0 would be mathematically just impossible...! Do you think it's somekind of bug...?!

[FatR]

If I understand things correctly, when crossing rivers one unit takes all damage for the team, at least in some case. Check if just one corps was near-annihilated.

[kfmiller41]

Well it sure is strange, because 6000 men got killed and nobody on the other side even got hurt[8|]. I am sorry but if I saw 10000 men attacking with artillery you would think someone would at least get killed by accident on the other side[:D] even if they died laughing

[Fishbed]

If I understand things correctly, when crossing rivers one unit takes all damage for the team, at least in some case. Check if just one corps was near-annihilated.

Aye, I have to check. But we're using Beta here, and the former rules (the "everybody hurts, everybody cries!" ones) should be in activated.

[Fishbed]

Ken darling, is it me waiting for your turn or did you send it already? I am a little lost or mistaken maybe, not sure about where we are now [:)]

[Fishbed]

Ken, are you there? The messages I get from you are made of 3 little dots... Are you sending something else or am I just being delusionnal...?

[kfmiller41]

just delusional i think[:D], my messages always format to show at the bottom of the message, not the top, but the attachments should be there.

[Fishbed]

Ken, all the savegames you sent me are from Dec 12....!!! I need Dec 13, did you save in another slot by mistake or something?