OT "The Pacific": Your Reviews
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OT "The Pacific": Your Reviews
At the start, let me say that I've studied the USMC for several years, and helped out a few SPWaW teams in getting the Marines TOEs correct. Other than that, I'm just an interested civilian. It's been 9 years since "Band of Brothers" was released, and the world has changed considerably since then. So, keep the forum rules in mind, and hopefully we can get a few non-politicized reviews of the series.
From the trailers I've seen, this promises to be a much-discussed series, with deeply-felt opinions on how it plays out. Thus, it will be difficult to keep an even keel on the emotional content. Nevertheless, guys, let's try not to get this thread locked.
From the trailers I've seen, this promises to be a much-discussed series, with deeply-felt opinions on how it plays out. Thus, it will be difficult to keep an even keel on the emotional content. Nevertheless, guys, let's try not to get this thread locked.

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watching episode one right now on HBO stream,just have to register,enjoy !
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Not out until Easter over here on Sky..... hope its a good one.... Enjoy
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Yep, the entire first episode was online for a short time, but HBO has since pulled the video. I missed it!

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It sucked.
The battle for Alligator Creek was totally misrepresented and trivialized. They could have easily spent the whole hour on just this battle. Instead, I guess they needed the time to show one Marine go into “battlefield fatigue” after just two minutes of gunfire and then show the whole unit shoot one unarmed Japanese soldier to death. What a waste.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Tenaru
The battle for Alligator Creek was totally misrepresented and trivialized. They could have easily spent the whole hour on just this battle. Instead, I guess they needed the time to show one Marine go into “battlefield fatigue” after just two minutes of gunfire and then show the whole unit shoot one unarmed Japanese soldier to death. What a waste.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Tenaru
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I agree. It was very rushed. They tell very little about the three men it is suppose to follow. Battle scenes are just too chaotic, with the camera rarely on a scene for more than a second, always moving.ORIGINAL: Poopyhead
It sucked.
If you don't know the history of the battle, then you will not even know what is happenning. I know they have to cover 4 years of war in a few episodes but this is crazy. You don't know the where and why the soldiers are doing what they are. They just appear and fight.
Band of Brothers Pacific version this is not.[:(]
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I know this might sound trivial, but the thing that bothered me the most was the length of the episode. It seemed by the time they got done with introductions and then cast/credits, 10 minutes was already wasted. Then, the actual episode ended around 9:50. Seems like a waste of 20 minutes that could have been used for telling the story. I hope each week isn't like this, I could be wrong, but don't remember Band of Brothers wasting time like this.
To me the first episode was Ok, nothing to go crazy over but wasn't bad neither. Too early for me to write this off yet since still 9 episodes to go and I have high hopes:)
To me the first episode was Ok, nothing to go crazy over but wasn't bad neither. Too early for me to write this off yet since still 9 episodes to go and I have high hopes:)
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ORIGINAL: Poopyhead
It sucked.
The battle for Alligator Creek was totally misrepresented and trivialized. They could have easily spent the whole hour on just this battle. Instead, I guess they needed the time to show one Marine go into “battlefield fatigue” after just two minutes of gunfire and then show the whole unit shoot one unarmed Japanese soldier to death. What a waste.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Tenaru
Ditto,
I didn’t make it to the battle scene , turned it off after I seen the 30cal team walking point.
Seeing the tripod man hugging the pod like a baby was just to much to watch, never mind the rest of the platoon on patrol with slung/shouldered weapons
Terribly disappointing but not surprised.
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Noticed that too. I got angry in the beach landing allready when they just stopped there and crowded close together in groups instead of spreading out instantly and moving inland. No one shouted orders even.ORIGINAL: Sarge
Ditto,
I didn’t make it to the battle scene , turned it off after I seen the 30cal team walking point.
If this is preview of what is to come in the next episodes I will propably watch the series through once and then forget it.
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I thought it was okay. I agree with the 10 minutes on either side of the program was ridiculous. After the battle of Savo I thought they really missed an opportunity , to me the scene would have been much better if they would have shown some casualties coming ashore the next morning.
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I believe it will get better.
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I'm trying to figure out why Iceland was colored red on the big map early in the show. It looked like red was used to show Axis occupied territory elsewhere.
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Haven't seen any episodes yet, but here is a review (this reviewer gives the first episode 4.5/5.0):
http://war-films.suite101.com/article.c ... -episode-1
Reviews for the first episode are quite good over at DVD Talk Forum:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/570796 ... 0-9pm.html
The Pacific will be available on dvd and Blu-ray in June, 2010:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Pacifi ... lans/13465
http://war-films.suite101.com/article.c ... -episode-1
Reviews for the first episode are quite good over at DVD Talk Forum:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/570796 ... 0-9pm.html
The Pacific will be available on dvd and Blu-ray in June, 2010:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Pacifi ... lans/13465
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I think the audience should take into consideration that its only following some of the characters as numerous events happen around them. I think it would have been slightly impossible for a person to be at all of the above events, granted I would like to have seen more of the airfield and sea battle.
We still have 9 more episodes and plenty of popcorn left.
We still have 9 more episodes and plenty of popcorn left.
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I notice the little things! How come the guys had the same haircuts in combat they had before they joined the service? No haicut requirements for the military back then?
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I was slightly disappointed mainly because the first episode felt so disjointed.
One minute its shortly after pearl harbor and you get several minutes of each of the 3 main characters and the next its the invasion of Guadacanal.I guess i was hoping that they would use the 1st episode to introduce the audience better to the 3 main protaganists.Band of brothers did a better job of at least introducing the main characters.In the Pacific unless you already know about them you don't get a very good sense of who they are.
Now comparing the episode to Helmet for my Pillow which most of it was based on,even with all the skipping foward the scenes seemed to match with the book until the aftermath of the battle and the letter from Sledge.Thats artistic liscense though.
I can't remember if the naval shelling and aerial bombings take place before or after the Tenaru,but if before then it would have been better for them to have been included to give a better sense of what was endured until relief came.Its just hard to keep track becauseof the skipping foward.
I'm withholding judgement on if it is on par with BoB,but i have a feeling it is going to be a bit more broad with less details since it is following three individuals instead of an entire unit.
The local TV critic though liked that aspect as he wouldn't get confused of trying to tell characters apart as he did with BOB.
One minute its shortly after pearl harbor and you get several minutes of each of the 3 main characters and the next its the invasion of Guadacanal.I guess i was hoping that they would use the 1st episode to introduce the audience better to the 3 main protaganists.Band of brothers did a better job of at least introducing the main characters.In the Pacific unless you already know about them you don't get a very good sense of who they are.
Now comparing the episode to Helmet for my Pillow which most of it was based on,even with all the skipping foward the scenes seemed to match with the book until the aftermath of the battle and the letter from Sledge.Thats artistic liscense though.
I can't remember if the naval shelling and aerial bombings take place before or after the Tenaru,but if before then it would have been better for them to have been included to give a better sense of what was endured until relief came.Its just hard to keep track becauseof the skipping foward.
I'm withholding judgement on if it is on par with BoB,but i have a feeling it is going to be a bit more broad with less details since it is following three individuals instead of an entire unit.
The local TV critic though liked that aspect as he wouldn't get confused of trying to tell characters apart as he did with BOB.
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and then show the whole unit shoot one unarmed Japanese soldier to death.
I thought this was great and most likely probably happened especially after that one jap blew up the doc when he was trying to help him. I'm sure many deviate things happened during the war by all involved. Overall I thought the episode was great and I enjoyed it from beginning to end. Felt sorry for the guy with the heart murmur but expect he will find a way into the war anyway. Can't wait for episode 2.
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ORIGINAL: diablo1
and then show the whole unit shoot one unarmed Japanese soldier to death.
I thought this was great and most likely probably happened especially after that one jap blew up the doc when he was trying to help him. I'm sure many deviate things happened during the war by all involved. Overall I thought the episode was great and I enjoyed it from beginning to end. Felt sorry for the guy with the heart murmur but expect he will find a way into the war anyway. Can't wait for episode 2.
That incident never happened though.Leckie went into some detail after his trial by fire...The Jap tanks burnt out on the otherside of the river,the souviener hunters,watching some of the surviving enemy trying to swim for safety and being shot,the bodies piled up along the sandbar,how he felt no emotion when someone told him who had all been killed during the nights battle.As i recall the mutilated marines,shown shortly after their landing,were also from a latter chapter of the book maybe New Guinea..where the Japanese had castrated them and cut off their globe and anchor tatoos..where he gave a brief description of "the Frenchman" and a fight that involved Japs,natives,dogs,and even bows and arrows.
I'll have to pull out the book though but i'm certain it never mentioned the incident of a corpsman being blown up by a wounded Japanese soldier at tenaru.Like i said artistic licsence.The producers are trying to convey something in only a few scenes.
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ORIGINAL: Poopyhead
It sucked.
I pretty much have to agree with this. Not only that, I've had the impression that Tom Hanks is on some sort of PC trip. I'll watch the series at least once but I hope he doesn't try to make the Japanese seem like the victims. I'll be mad if he does.
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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
ORIGINAL: Poopyhead
It sucked.
I pretty much have to agree with this. Not only that, I've had the impression that Tom Hanks is on some sort of PC trip. I'll watch the series at least once but I hope he doesn't try to make the Japanese seem like the victims. I'll be mad if he does.
They already Pc'ed it with the fictional Japanese soldier being toyed with by the marines..which never happened in the book by Leckie.Did it ever happen who knows...
Thats one thing that always bothered me with depictions of WWII...
German soldiers are cannon fodder but everyone tries to humanize the average Japanese soldier when they were more unforgiving and brutal than even the most indoctrinated SS trooper..i guess it has to do with the bomb and western guilt.
This isn't a political statement.but something that has cropped up in movies,books,and the media.
The Japanese were victims according to all modern media..they even go out of their way to show them as such..witness the brief scene of marines mutilated by them and the protracted,and make believe scene,of the Japanese soldier at the Tenaru being tormented by the marines.
One happened and one didn't.
The one that didn't happen make the marines seem sadistic..though it was also after a make believe scene of a wounded Japanese soldier blowing himself up and killing a corpsman..which somehow forgives the next scene.







