The Pacific (TV Show)
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John Lansford
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RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
There is nothing redeemable about the Movie That Shall Not Be Named. Nothing at all.
The special effects? You liked that the Oklahoma somehow lifted itself out of the water and rotated until it was upside down? Or that there were modern USN ships in the harbor being attacked? Or that apparently they blew the SFX budget on making the forward deck of Arizona buckle upward a few feet to simulate that appalling explosion?
No, it makes me feel ill just remembering those scenes. Enough already.
The special effects? You liked that the Oklahoma somehow lifted itself out of the water and rotated until it was upside down? Or that there were modern USN ships in the harbor being attacked? Or that apparently they blew the SFX budget on making the forward deck of Arizona buckle upward a few feet to simulate that appalling explosion?
No, it makes me feel ill just remembering those scenes. Enough already.
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RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
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You liked that the Oklahoma somehow lifted itself out of the water and rotated until it was upside down? Or that there were modern USN ships in the harbor being attacked? Or that apparently they blew the SFX budget on making the forward deck of Arizona buckle upward a few feet to simulate that appalling explosion?
Uggh
Not those scenes no. Perhaps the 1st person views of the Japanese pilots flying down battleship row impressed me ...[&:]
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TF 85 troops securing a beachhead at Kota Bharu, 51,75
whew! I still feel better.
Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu
TF 85 troops securing a beachhead at Kota Bharu, 51,75
whew! I still feel better.
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
I think they would have done well to make it two episodes, not one. With one, they barely touched on "everything" but didn't give you an indepth feel of "anything". That's really my biggest complaint.
Something tells me that they are going to waste a lot of series-space to Manila John's "CMOH War Bond Tour". Whoop-dee-doo. Hope not. I'd call that Epic Fail. This series is supposed to be about the Marines in the Pacific, not a Marine on a war-bond tour at home. Spending ANY time on the war-bond tour is a waste of valuable "Pacific" time. Time that could be spent laying a better background for the series.
Something tells me that they are going to waste a lot of series-space to Manila John's "CMOH War Bond Tour". Whoop-dee-doo. Hope not. I'd call that Epic Fail. This series is supposed to be about the Marines in the Pacific, not a Marine on a war-bond tour at home. Spending ANY time on the war-bond tour is a waste of valuable "Pacific" time. Time that could be spent laying a better background for the series.
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Movie was ok ..nothing more. Its like i've seen it all before, same scenes, same moral dilemmas ..same uniforms. Yeah i would love a movie series made by S.Spielberg or C.Eastwood or Hollywood about german soldiers, even SS, that would be something refreshing. Leibstandarte, early years, training, russia, Normandy, Ardennes, Defeat 
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
I think they would have done well to make it two episodes, not one. With one, they barely touched on "everything" but didn't give you an indepth feel of "anything". That's really my biggest complaint.
There was no time to get to know the characters. In Band of Brothers, you got to know them as they went through training. In Saving Private Ryan, you got to know them starting with the opening scenes and progressing to the landings. In The Pacific, I really don't have a clue about who they are or what they are about. I have no feeling of affinity for them at all.
There were a few things to nitpick about as there are in any war movie. The attention to detail was evident but one glaring error was the length of their hair. It's the same length when they were civillians as when they are Marines. I'm pretty sure that WWII Marines didn't allow long, curly hair over the ears. I could understand it if they had been in combat for awhile but not when they are first landing.
It also would have been nice if they had put a byline at the bottom to indicate the date of each event. Without it, it left you guessing as to how much time had passed.
Overall, I would give the first episode a C+.
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RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
I don't know if any of you know who Captain Dale Dye is; a former Marine who has been through combat in Vietnam, wrote a few books and articles, and has hosted a talk radio. He helped out with a lot of accuracies for Band of Brothers and The Pacific.
Dye is great, and has been in a ton of stuff; he was the advisor for "Platoon," and had the cameo as the CO who calls in the birds to "dump your remaining ammunition on my pos, I repeat, on my pos ..."
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Man, I can't remember seeing a war movie without Dale Dye!
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He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB too
Colonel Sink I think.
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His wife served as military advisor for The Pacific.ORIGINAL: AcePylut
Man, I can't remember seeing a war movie without Dale Dye!
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He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB tooColonel Sink I think.
He's also into video games.
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He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB tooColonel Sink I think.
No..., I'm pretty sure "Colonel Sink" was played by Elliot Gould.
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He's also into video games.
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And an epic psycho in one of the Texas Chainsaw movies. Horrible, HORRIBLE movie, but Dye was awesome.
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One thing that seemed a bit different (I am sure it is realistic) is the marines seem to carry a lot more "stuff" than the paratroopers...
I liked the scene with the marines watching Savo Island and not realizing who was winning. Of course I was wondering which of the CAs it was that blew up so nicely.
It must have been very freaky to see the Japanese ships bringing reinforcements right in your face during daytime.....
I liked the scene with the marines watching Savo Island and not realizing who was winning. Of course I was wondering which of the CAs it was that blew up so nicely.
It must have been very freaky to see the Japanese ships bringing reinforcements right in your face during daytime.....
To quote from Evans/Peattie`s {Kaigun}
"Mistakes in operations and tactics can be corrected, but
political and strategic mistakes live forever". The authors were refering to Japan but the same could be said of the US misadventure in Iraq
"Mistakes in operations and tactics can be corrected, but
political and strategic mistakes live forever". The authors were refering to Japan but the same could be said of the US misadventure in Iraq
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The 37mm gun was in the night battle scene..


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The 37mm gun was in the night battle scene..
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I thought that scene was of the .30 caliber water cooled MG they were lugging around from one firing position to another.
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...but Dye was awesome.
Who's better Dye or Ermey?
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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1
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He was the Colonel of the 101st in BOB tooColonel Sink I think.
No..., I'm pretty sure "Colonel Sink" was played by Elliot Gould.
In a Bridge to Far, yeah, I think Gould was Sink. But in BoB, I'm thinking of the scene where Winters relieves Dyke, Sink/Dye was standing right there.
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ORIGINAL: AcePylut
No..., I'm pretty sure "Colonel Sink" was played by Elliot Gould.
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In a Bridge to Far, yeah, I think Gould was Sink. But in BoB, I'm thinking of the scene where Winters relieves Dyke, Sink/Dye was standing right there.
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You could well be right..., I was thinking of Bridge to Far...
RE: The Pacific (TV Show)
In BOB, Sink be Dye.
In BTF, Sink no Dye, Gould Dye.
In Midway, no Dye, no Gould, no Sink, but many sink.
In Wake Island, no Sink, no Dye, but all die.
Any questions? Have a good night.
In BTF, Sink no Dye, Gould Dye.
In Midway, no Dye, no Gould, no Sink, but many sink.
In Wake Island, no Sink, no Dye, but all die.
Any questions? Have a good night.
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