War in the East Q&A

[PyleDriver]

The last time I took Sandra out it was 60 dollars, so go figure...And it was three hours...

[latosusi]

Hahah!

[wiking62]

I here what you are all saying. When Avalon Hills "The Longest Day" came out i paid £48.00 for it in about 1979/80. That was a lot of money then, but look what you got for the money, a beautiful set of map boards, thousands of counters and countless player aid cards etc. This game was truely a work of art and one which i still play today.
 
I pay £29.99 for each of the HPS Panzer Campaign titles (available for $39.99 to $49.99 in the States) which i consider to be reasonable value. I know that WitE is a more complex/larger game scale, but the point i am trying to make is that £49.99 is a lot of money for a digital download (£54.99 for physical shipment). I firmly believe that a keener pricing policy would see more units of this game shipped. These games are never going to sell one million units because we wargamers are a relatively small niche market. Matrix need to find the right balance, but i tend to think that their prices are on the high side in the European market. Many of my fellow wargamers have all been following this game with great interest, however to a man we have all expressed concerns about the price. I am talking of seventeen wargamers who i regulary meet and play against, which is a sizeable local group of gamers.
 
Anyway, at the end of the day i suppose we all make our own choice as to what we belive is good value for money.

[malfid]

hart2412:

In Australia, a mainstream retail release of an AA+ title (say, for example, Call of Duty) will set you back $99.95 AUD - or just over $90 USD. I paid $109.95 AUD for the standard edition of Dragon Age: Origins.

You may begin counting your lucky stars, now. [:'(]

(There are titles coming out for $79.95-$89.95 more recently, depending on the publisher - and we're thankful for it... That should say a lot!)

[wiking62]

ORIGINAL: malfid

hart2412:

In Australia, a mainstream retail release of an AA+ title (say, for example, Call of Duty) will set you back $99.95 AUD - or just over $90 USD. I paid $109.95 AUD for the standard edition of Dragon Age: Origins.

You may begin counting your lucky stars, now. [:'(]

(There are titles coming out for $79.95-$89.95 more recently, depending on the publisher - and we're thankful for it... That should say a lot!)

I'm currently working on a large project for Western Star in Queensland and those guys are screwing us for every dollar they can.[:)]

Perhaps the only people who make money in Oz and the game retailers![:D]

Seriously though, it looks like you get screwed the same as us over here in Europe. We pay about £49.99 for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 on release, but if you shop around we can get it for about £34.99 on release.

[malfid]

Hey, at least it's given me an excuse to use that VISA debit card I've got stashed, around here somewhere. Amazon/digital purchases are saving me some may-jah doll-ah!

Queensland... figures! Victoria is where it's at. They still screw you for every dollar they can, though.

[PyleDriver]

Well how long ago did WitP release. Joel may slap me, but he said the price "may" be near the same. So inflation included its build in...

[wodin]

Hart2412...I understand what your saying however as its a niche game then you have expect a higher price (call it an exculsive game if you like). Also yes you pay £34.99 for CoD Modern Warare 2 and get what 20 hours out of it if your lucky.. A game like this one here would give you 100 hrs plus. So it is less than a pouind an hour....what other entertainment costs less than a pound an hour? The pictures cost £8 for a two hour film!

So I see it like that....if I know the game will give me on the whole less than a pound per hours worth of fun\entertainment then Im happy. I see it as good value

Blimey those who have a PS3 have to pay 49.99 for a new release no matter what sort of game it is and I'm sure many are dire. Also some people pay that price for an FPS game on a console which they finish in about 15 hours...that for me is a waste of money..

Just noticed I should have said I agree with pompack...instead of a waffle...

[kfmiller41]

I agree with pompack, on a cost per time played basis WITP was the cheapest game I have ever played[:D]. I guess buying it depends on your want's. This may be the last really good east front monster game to come out for a long while, and some of us are not getting any younger[8|] so I am surely going to buy it[&o]

[freeboy]

regarding the comment for digital vs phisical.. the designers and marketing people are not making more by selling you a dl, It costs money to support the pipeline aka dr or steam or whomever, so we are looking at an under 100$ title which in 1980 dollars would be what 55$? Heck, I remember getting a graphics card just to run the old atomic games for that much, dinner and a movie? see my point?
If it is a game you do not value, I could list a dozen lemmings from the last few years several from M, then sure, any amount is too much, but this promisses to be a GG opus, I sure hope so...

[SGHunt]

I see my £55 as part of my investment towards my retirement!!!! [;)]   And much better VFM than the financial instruments they try and flog us....

Stuart

[FM WarB]

For me, the cost of a game includes the books on the topic I feel compelled to buy. My Ostfront library is rather incomplete.

[wiking62]

ORIGINAL: freeboy

If it is a game you do not value, I could list a dozen lemmings from the last few years several from M, then sure, any amount is too much, but this promisses to be a GG opus, I sure hope so...

My pricing comments have in part been based on previous games that i have purchased from Matrix. Paid out a lot of money for games that have just not been up to it. Despite the price issue i will probably still buy this game because it is one that i have always been hoping for, like everyone else.

I may just wait a couple weeks, post release, to see what kind of reviews it gets, however all the AAR's and additional information point to the fact that it is going to be a classic.[8D]

[BigDuke66]

All this price discussion should be moved to a new thread, it doesn't realy belong in an Q & A Thread.[>:]

[Capt Cliff]

ORIGINAL: BigDuke66

All this price discussion should be moved to a new thread, it doesn't realy belong in an Q & A Thread.[>:]

I seocnd this motion! All in favor?

[ComradeP]

If, for some reason, Soviet Tank divisions survive 1941, how many are needed to form a Tank Corps?

[Hard Sarge]

they don't survive

Sept 41, they break down into Brigs

(i'd have to get back to you on the rest, rules, OOB keep changeing, HARD to keep up and be sure)

[zbig]

Do the movement points on the counters decrease as the unit moves?

[comte]

Probably been asked already but are NKVD units in the game?

[Helpless]

Probably been asked already but are NKVD units in the game?

Yes, it's been discussed before.

There are some NKVD border security regiments and some very minor amount of NKVD rifle divisions when war starts.