Continue building Yamoto or not?

[findmeifyoucan]

I just want others thoughts on whether it is worth continuing production of the Yamato class battleships. There may already be too much resources put into the original Yamoto to stop now. But what about the sister ship? Maybe those resource could be put to better use like speeding up production of Carriers instead??!!!

[Swenslim]

My opinion is to build Yamato and build Musashi. This two ships can be your main power in Dutch India. In pbems some allied players tend to attack through this theatre of operations. That is why you can use this ships for sudden crushing attacks. They can stay undercover of LBA fighters on numeros bases like Kendari, Ambon, Makkasar and others and make fast night raids to destroy enemy landings.

[Athius]

Build the Yamato, cancel the Musashi.
You can use those points to accelerate the IJN's carriers quite a bit.

[findmeifyoucan]

Yeah, that is what I am thinking. Yamato is too far along the pipe to stop it now.

[Q-Ball]

Battleships are more important in AE than they were in WITP, and much more important than they were IRL. I would definitely build BOTH.

The only IJN ship IMO you absolutely don't build is Shinano. I also halt all the RO-boats, but that's just me. ROs aren't totally useless, but it's alot of points that are better used to accelerate a CV.

[freeboy]

q ball, how so??
Not that I disagree or agree, just interested in why you think they are more..
thanks

[Mike Solli]

I agree with Q-Ball. I like the firepower massed BBs can provide. The Yamato & Musashi can wreak havoc. I also agree on the RO class subs. They carry only forward tubes with a couple of shots and are expensive to build. Halting those subs is a much cheaper alternative to increasing your HI factories.

[freeboy]

Well, I play as allies and am not sure which I fear, cv coming sooner or Yammy and her sis, I actually would probably take the fear cv more.. but Yammy does provoke a gut response, so much so that I go after these two with an abandone if they are so bold as to raid my ports!!!
Q ball, why do you think BB are too strong?

[Q-Ball]

I don't necessarily think BBs are too strong, personally I really like the fact that the Navy is more important in AE. I'm just saying, LBA isn't all that effective, and the YAMATOS, while not being miracle ships, are very powerful. They are impervious to Allied level bombers, and even most SBD hits will bounce off. They will clobber any old USN BB in a fight, as well as all the fast BBs, New Jerseys excepted. Plus, the Yamatos just look COOL!

Surface ships are very important. If the covering force is taken out, the transports get absolutely slaughtered. The Yamatos, while a very questionable expense of RL Japanese resources, in AE are a must build. They are the ultimate surface power weapon.

[freeboy]

I think the one I sunk got slowed down by some torps and the nswarmed by air, not sure though

[Puhis]

I halt CVL Ryuho. It seems that Ryuho airgroups arrive about a year after the ship, so I think there's no need to get the ship before airgroups. Halting Ryuho will save 47 shipyard points, if I remember it right.

[John 3rd]

Build the BBs and in my new Mod, build the BCs!  Those hulls can be used to wreak havoc amongst the Allies.
 
Qball is right as the increased importance of the BBs in AE.
 
If you want to accelerate your CVs, slow your SS production (as Qball suggests), increase your shipyards, and watch your points through Tracker.  It can still be done with a little juggling.
 
 

[LoBaron]

The severe disadvantage of the Yamato/Mushashi is the 18inchers.
Takes a huge port to reload those guns.
 
But I agree that the firepower is needed on the Japanese side. I will build both no matter what.

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

The severe disadvantage of the Yamato/Mushashi is the 18inchers.
Takes a huge port to reload those guns.

But I agree that the firepower is needed on the Japanese side. I will build both no matter what.

Port 7 + 188 Naval Support. Other than in the middle of the Pacific, there are a few level 7 capable ports scattered around.

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

The severe disadvantage of the Yamato/Mushashi is the 18inchers.
Takes a huge port to reload those guns.

But I agree that the firepower is needed on the Japanese side. I will build both no matter what.

Port 7 + 188 Naval Support. Other than in the middle of the Pacific, there are a few level 7 capable ports scattered around.

[John 3rd]

Having those big AKE Helps too...
 

[findmeifyoucan]

Interesting, so Yamato's are worth building then and maybe slow down sub production. Going to have to do something to reduce HI useage with accelerating some CV's/CVL's especially playing Scen 2. That pilot training is killing me. Wow, such heavy HI costs. I just got to Jan 1/42 and now am worried if I will have enough HI for Feb 1 to keep my Japanese economy going?

[crsutton]

Just like Allied ship withdrawals, there should be very heavy PP cost for not building certain ships. Yamato and her sister ship were issued of naval and national pride. Any officer or politician who advocated this course most likely would have been sword gutted by some right wing fanatic. Too easy for the Japanese player to cancel major ships IMHO.

[Q-Ball]

crsutton has a point, there is no way Yamato and Musashi would have been cancelled. They were too far along. I would feel free, though, to cancel Shinano, and as many subs as you want.

Someone suggested cancelling Ryuho; though the lack of airgroups is irritating, I would build her. I would not ACCELERATE her, but I would build her. Any acceleration is best spent on the Unryus (which can be cheaply accelerated), or Taiho (expensive, but a very nice unit).

I never accelerate the DDs, but I woudn't halt them either. Some players acclerate the Akizukis. The CLs are not worth Accelerating, but I would definitely build them.

Subs are expensive to build relative to what you get. I go ahead and build the Glen-equipped ones, and cancel the RO-Boats. The KDB attack boats, I halt them, and build once I have some points freed. They are useful, just not as useful as the Glen-ones, or an accelerated CV.

[findmeifyoucan]

How to you cancell the RO Sub boats? System will not let me only "Normal" and "Accelerated" I am allowed to click on